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......which would you go to and why?

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1900's-Corbett v Roy Jones
1910's-Jeffries v Roy Jones
1920's-Dempsey v Roy Jones
1930's-Louis v Roy Jones
1940's-Robinson v Roy Jones
1950's-Marciano v Roy Jones
1960's-Ali v Roy Jones
1970's-Foreman v Roy Jones
1980's-Tyson v Roy Jones
1990's-Holyfield v Roy Jones
2000's-Lewis v Roy Jones
2010's-Fury v Roy Jones

Roy beats them all except Robinson due to weakness caused by weight-making, losing a close unanimous decision after 15 hard-fought rounds.
I picked these fights to annoy Ambling Alp and HomicideHenry.

Roy is also travelling with me in the time machine.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 11:15 ......which would you go to and why?

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1900s - McVey-Jeannette 1909 in Paris.
1910s -Any of the Wills-Langford fights
1920s -Dempsey-Firpo
1930s - Any of the Ross-McLarnin fights.
1940s -Any of the Zale-Graziano fights.
1950s - Moore-Durelle I
1960s -Clay-Liston
1970s Ali-Frazier III
1980s - Leoanrd-Hagler
1990s- Holyfield-Tyson I
2000s Barrera-Morales III
2010s - Marquez-Pacquio

These were not always the best fights. But can imagine the atmosphere of Dempsey-Firpo with 120,000 fans screaming.?
Durelle knocking Moore down over and over but Moore coming back?

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 14:10 1900's-Corbett v Roy Jones
1910's-Jeffries v Roy Jones
1920's-Dempsey v Roy Jones
1930's-Louis v Roy Jones
1940's-Robinson v Roy Jones
1950's-Marciano v Roy Jones
1960's-Ali v Roy Jones
1970's-Foreman v Roy Jones
1980's-Tyson v Roy Jones
1990's-Holyfield v Roy Jones
2000's-Lewis v Roy Jones
2010's-Fury v Roy Jones

Roy beats them all except Robinson due to weakness caused by weight-making, losing a close unanimous decision after 15 hard-fought rounds.
I picked these fights to annoy Ambling Alp and HomicideHenry.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 14:10 1900's-Corbett v Roy Jones
1910's-Jeffries v Roy Jones
1920's-Dempsey v Roy Jones
1930's-Louis v Roy Jones
1940's-Robinson v Roy Jones
1950's-Marciano v Roy Jones
1960's-Ali v Roy Jones
1970's-Foreman v Roy Jones
1980's-Tyson v Roy Jones
1990's-Holyfield v Roy Jones
2000's-Lewis v Roy Jones
2010's-Fury v Roy Jones

Roy beats them all except Robinson due to weakness caused by weight-making, losing a close unanimous decision after 15 hard-fought rounds.
I picked these fights to annoy Ambling Alp and HomicideHenry.

Where's Roy Jones v Roy Jones? Surely he would beat himself?

1900's - Ketchel - Papke III (Get to see my favorite boxer)
1910's - Dempsey - Willard (Jack at his most savage. I'll look to see if I can see anything suspicious in his hand)
1920's - Dempsey - Firpo (The spectacle, the fight and I'd sneak a camera in)
1930's - Armstrong - Ross I (Love me some Henry Armstrong, arguably at his best)
1940's - Robinson - Gavilan (The man at his best in a competitive fight against a HOF'er)
1950's - Moore - Harold Johnson V (A great fight by all accounts and Archie was a phenomenon)
1960's - Ali - Cooper II (My late father was at ringside, so I'd be going to see him and The Greatest)
1970's - Foreman - Ali (the event as much as the fight)
1980's - Hagler - Leonard (great atmosphere and a phenomenal performance by SRL)
1990's - Simon Brown - Maurice Blocker (One of my favorite fights, also Tyson-Ruddock and Chavez on the card)
2000's - Hatton - Tszyu (great fight, great atmosphere)
2010's - Usyk - Briedis (Good fight, great atmosphere)

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 06:01

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 14:10 1900's-Corbett v Roy Jones
1910's-Jeffries v Roy Jones
1920's-Dempsey v Roy Jones
1930's-Louis v Roy Jones
1940's-Robinson v Roy Jones
1950's-Marciano v Roy Jones
1960's-Ali v Roy Jones
1970's-Foreman v Roy Jones
1980's-Tyson v Roy Jones
1990's-Holyfield v Roy Jones
2000's-Lewis v Roy Jones
2010's-Fury v Roy Jones

Roy beats them all except Robinson due to weakness caused by weight-making, losing a close unanimous decision after 15 hard-fought rounds.
I picked these fights to annoy Ambling Alp and HomicideHenry.

Where's Roy Jones v Roy Jones? Surely he would beat himself?

If Roy meets Roy the spacetime equalibrium is disrupted and the universe is destroyed.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:12

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 06:01

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑12 Nov 2022, 14:10 1900's-Corbett v Roy Jones
1910's-Jeffries v Roy Jones
1920's-Dempsey v Roy Jones
1930's-Louis v Roy Jones
1940's-Robinson v Roy Jones
1950's-Marciano v Roy Jones
1960's-Ali v Roy Jones
1970's-Foreman v Roy Jones
1980's-Tyson v Roy Jones
1990's-Holyfield v Roy Jones
2000's-Lewis v Roy Jones
2010's-Fury v Roy Jones

Roy beats them all except Robinson due to weakness caused by weight-making, losing a close unanimous decision after 15 hard-fought rounds.
I picked these fights to annoy Ambling Alp and HomicideHenry.

Where's Roy Jones v Roy Jones? Surely he would beat himself?

If Roy meets Roy the spacetime equalibrium is disrupted and the universe is destroyed.

Oh, and BTW, Roy wouldn't have beaten Dariusz Michalczewski.

I think Roy once said he couldn't win a decision against Dariusz in Germany.

Seamus wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:43 I think Roy once said he couldn't win a decision against Dariusz in Germany.

That's because The Tiger would have knocked him out before the final bell.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:16

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 12:12

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 06:01

Where's Roy Jones v Roy Jones? Surely he would beat himself?

If Roy meets Roy the spacetime equalibrium is disrupted and the universe is destroyed.

Oh, and BTW, Roy wouldn't have beaten Dariusz Michalczewski.

I don't care. I always liked James Toney much more than Jones.

Umm, ok. Good to know.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 08:14 1900's - Ketchel - Papke III (Get to see my favorite boxer)
1910's - Dempsey - Willard (Jack at his most savage. I'll look to see if I can see anything suspicious in his hand)
1920's - Dempsey - Firpo (The spectacle, the fight and I'd sneak a camera in)
1930's - Armstrong - Ross I (Love me some Henry Armstrong, arguably at his best)
1940's - Robinson - Gavilan (The man at his best in a competitive fight against a HOF'er)
1950's - Moore - Harold Johnson V (A great fight by all accounts and Archie was a phenomenon)
1960's - Ali - Cooper II (My late father was at ringside, so I'd be going to see him and The Greatest)
1970's - Foreman - Ali (the event as much as the fight)
1980's - Hagler - Leonard (great atmosphere and a phenomenal performance by SRL)
1990's - Simon Brown - Maurice Blocker (One of my favorite fights, also Tyson-Ruddock and Chavez on the card)
2000's - Hatton - Tszyu (great fight, great atmosphere)
2010's - Usyk - Briedis (Good fight, great atmosphere)

Robinson-Gavilan would have been awesome just from a sheer skill standpoint.
Dempsey-firpo would have been crazy with all those knockdowns, Dempsey getting knocked out of the ring, with a huge crowd. Foreman-Ali would have been unbelievable to actually see in real time and in person.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:39

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 08:14 1900's - Ketchel - Papke III (Get to see my favorite boxer)
1910's - Dempsey - Willard (Jack at his most savage. I'll look to see if I can see anything suspicious in his hand)
1920's - Dempsey - Firpo (The spectacle, the fight and I'd sneak a camera in)
1930's - Armstrong - Ross I (Love me some Henry Armstrong, arguably at his best)
1940's - Robinson - Gavilan (The man at his best in a competitive fight against a HOF'er)
1950's - Moore - Harold Johnson V (A great fight by all accounts and Archie was a phenomenon)
1960's - Ali - Cooper II (My late father was at ringside, so I'd be going to see him and The Greatest)
1970's - Foreman - Ali (the event as much as the fight)
1980's - Hagler - Leonard (great atmosphere and a phenomenal performance by SRL)
1990's - Simon Brown - Maurice Blocker (One of my favorite fights, also Tyson-Ruddock and Chavez on the card)
2000's - Hatton - Tszyu (great fight, great atmosphere)
2010's - Usyk - Briedis (Good fight, great atmosphere)

Robinson-Gavilan would have been awesome just from a sheer skill standpoint.
Dempsey-firpo would have been crazy with all those knockdowns, Dempsey getting knocked out of the ring, with a huge crowd. Foreman-Ali would have been unbelievable to actually see in real time and in person.

Yeah, Ali/Foreman in person would have been amazing. Get a real feel for those bodyshots Ali was absorbing.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:39

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 08:14 1900's - Ketchel - Papke III (Get to see my favorite boxer)
1910's - Dempsey - Willard (Jack at his most savage. I'll look to see if I can see anything suspicious in his hand)
1920's - Dempsey - Firpo (The spectacle, the fight and I'd sneak a camera in)
1930's - Armstrong - Ross I (Love me some Henry Armstrong, arguably at his best)
1940's - Robinson - Gavilan (The man at his best in a competitive fight against a HOF'er)
1950's - Moore - Harold Johnson V (A great fight by all accounts and Archie was a phenomenon)
1960's - Ali - Cooper II (My late father was at ringside, so I'd be going to see him and The Greatest)
1970's - Foreman - Ali (the event as much as the fight)
1980's - Hagler - Leonard (great atmosphere and a phenomenal performance by SRL)
1990's - Simon Brown - Maurice Blocker (One of my favorite fights, also Tyson-Ruddock and Chavez on the card)
2000's - Hatton - Tszyu (great fight, great atmosphere)
2010's - Usyk - Briedis (Good fight, great atmosphere)

Robinson-Gavilan would have been awesome just from a sheer skill standpoint.
Dempsey-firpo would have been crazy with all those knockdowns, Dempsey getting knocked out of the ring, with a huge crowd. Foreman-Ali would have been unbelievable to actually see in real time and in person.

I can't disagree with any of that brother. Dempsey - Firpo would have been absolutely nuts.

We both also picked Leonard - Hagler. What was your reasoning for that choice?

Leonard v Duran is a more compelling and entertaining fight IMO than Leoard v Hagler, and fought over the proper 15 round distance for a world championship bout.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022, 14:58 Umm, ok. Good to know.

Thankyou.

Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 13:56 Leonard v Duran is a more compelling and entertaining fight IMO than Leoard v Hagler, and fought over the proper 15 round distance for a world championship bout.

Make a proper list brother, it'll be interesting to see your choices.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:59

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:39

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑14 Nov 2022, 08:14 1900's - Ketchel - Papke III (Get to see my favorite boxer)
1910's - Dempsey - Willard (Jack at his most savage. I'll look to see if I can see anything suspicious in his hand)
1920's - Dempsey - Firpo (The spectacle, the fight and I'd sneak a camera in)
1930's - Armstrong - Ross I (Love me some Henry Armstrong, arguably at his best)
1940's - Robinson - Gavilan (The man at his best in a competitive fight against a HOF'er)
1950's - Moore - Harold Johnson V (A great fight by all accounts and Archie was a phenomenon)
1960's - Ali - Cooper II (My late father was at ringside, so I'd be going to see him and The Greatest)
1970's - Foreman - Ali (the event as much as the fight)
1980's - Hagler - Leonard (great atmosphere and a phenomenal performance by SRL)
1990's - Simon Brown - Maurice Blocker (One of my favorite fights, also Tyson-Ruddock and Chavez on the card)
2000's - Hatton - Tszyu (great fight, great atmosphere)
2010's - Usyk - Briedis (Good fight, great atmosphere)

Robinson-Gavilan would have been awesome just from a sheer skill standpoint.
Dempsey-firpo would have been crazy with all those knockdowns, Dempsey getting knocked out of the ring, with a huge crowd. Foreman-Ali would have been unbelievable to actually see in real time and in person.

I can't disagree with any of that brother. Dempsey - Firpo would have been absolutely nuts.

We both also picked Leonard - Hagler. What was your reasoning for that choice?

Because of the long layoff, Leonard wasn't as a good of a fighter as when he beat Duran and Hearns. However, it was compelling to watch him fight better than expected and upset Hagler. He was able to outsmart Hagler. The big moment in round 9 when it looked like Hagler finally had where he wanted him, and Leonard showed a lot of heart of battling back toe to toe.

In the history of the sport, there isn't another case where a guy came back like that (after being gone for so long) to beat a great fighter. It is amazing that so many people don't get that. It is a very underrated achievement.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 16:43

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:59

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:39

Robinson-Gavilan would have been awesome just from a sheer skill standpoint.
Dempsey-firpo would have been crazy with all those knockdowns, Dempsey getting knocked out of the ring, with a huge crowd. Foreman-Ali would have been unbelievable to actually see in real time and in person.

I can't disagree with any of that brother. Dempsey - Firpo would have been absolutely nuts.

We both also picked Leonard - Hagler. What was your reasoning for that choice?

Because of the long layoff, Leonard wasn't as a good of a fighter as when he beat Duran and Hearns. However, it was compelling to watch him fight better than expected and upset Hagler. He was able to outsmart Hagler. The big moment in round 9 when it looked like Hagler finally had where he wanted him, and Leonard showed a lot of heart of battling back toe to toe.

In the history of the sport, there isn't another case where a guy came back like that (after being gone for so long) to beat a great fighter. It is amazing that so many people don't get that. It is a very underrated achievement.

100% agree. It was a phenomenal achievement.

I'd rather go with hypothetical dream bouts with each decade, rather than just watching a bout that I knew already how it will unfold.
1900's-Johnson versus Jefferies in 1906 or 1907 instead of 1910.
1910's- Sam Langford vs Luther McCarthy(pre-neck injury version of Golden Boy Luther)
1920's-Jack Dempsey vs Harry Greb(Greb all enhanced by P.E.D's or on a Special Scientific diet, weighing 176 lbs, all muscle)
1930's-Joe Louis vs Mas Oyama in an MMA bout(I'd have Dana White with me to enable the formation of MMA in that era)
1940's-Sandy Saddler vs IP Man in an MMA bout.
1950's-Rocky Marciano vs Floyd Patterson
1960's-Muhammed Ali vs Gregorio Peralta
1970's-Roberto Duran vs Alexis Arguello
1980's-Marvin Hagler vs Wilfred Benitez(Mid 1982, right after Wilfred's victory over Duran)
1990's-Mike Tyson vs Riddick Bowe or Mike Tyson vs David Tua(Equally intriguing dream-bouts)
2000's-Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Paul Williams
2010's-Pacqiou vs Canelo @ 154
2020's-Fury vs Joyce

1898 - The First Jim Jeffries vs Tom Sharkey fight. The sailor was at his peak and the fight was a genuine pier-sixer.
1900 - Tommy Burns Vs Fireman Jim Flynn for the world title. Both men put up a terrific fight.
1910 - May 12, 1916 Sam Langford stops Joe Jeannette in 7th round, only the second time in Joe's career.
1920 - Jack Renault Vs Jack Sharkey at Boston. Did Renault deserve the win?
1930 - Larry Gains KO'd Phil Scott to become the first black man to win the British Empire title.
1940 - Al Delaney W10 over Tiger Warrington and is awarded a Ring Magazine belt as Canadian champion.
1950 - Earl Walls destroys Rex Layne at 1:03 of the first round making him a leading contender for the world title.
1960 - George Chuvalo vs Floyd Patterson. Who really won?
1970 - Clyde Grey Vs Eddie Blay. Clyde won the vacant Commonwealth title.
1980 - Roddy MacDonald vs Gary Summerhays in a real brawl.
1990 - Otis Grant Vs Danny Sherry for the Canadian middleweight title.
2000 - Kirk Johnson KO'd Oleg Maskaev to become a world contender.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 16:56

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 16:43

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 11:59

I can't disagree with any of that brother. Dempsey - Firpo would have been absolutely nuts.

We both also picked Leonard - Hagler. What was your reasoning for that choice?

Because of the long layoff, Leonard wasn't as a good of a fighter as when he beat Duran and Hearns. However, it was compelling to watch him fight better than expected and upset Hagler. He was able to outsmart Hagler. The big moment in round 9 when it looked like Hagler finally had where he wanted him, and Leonard showed a lot of heart of battling back toe to toe.

In the history of the sport, there isn't another case where a guy came back like that (after being gone for so long) to beat a great fighter. It is amazing that so many people don't get that. It is a very underrated achievement.

100% agree. It was a phenomenal achievement.

Not as great as Duran vs Barkley. Marvelous was past his very best. Anybody could have beaten him that night.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑23 Nov 2022, 17:14

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 16:56

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑16 Nov 2022, 16:43

Because of the long layoff, Leonard wasn't as a good of a fighter as when he beat Duran and Hearns. However, it was compelling to watch him fight better than expected and upset Hagler. He was able to outsmart Hagler. The big moment in round 9 when it looked like Hagler finally had where he wanted him, and Leonard showed a lot of heart of battling back toe to toe.

In the history of the sport, there isn't another case where a guy came back like that (after being gone for so long) to beat a great fighter. It is amazing that so many people don't get that. It is a very underrated achievement.

100% agree. It was a phenomenal achievement.

Not as great as Duran vs Barkley. Marvelous was past his very best. Anybody could have beaten him that night.

Now your being silly. Leonard had boxed once in five years, had never fought at the weight and Hagler was so 'very past his best', he beat Hearns two fights previously.

"Anyone could have beaten him that night".

In one hand you've got Iran Barkley and in the other you've got Marvin Hagler.