Tory scumbags

[Boxerbeetle]

Labour would win a landslide in the next election if they took a tough stance against immigration.

But they won't, just like the Tories because they aren't going to be the victims of foreign criminals or terrorists, it's the everyday people going about their business who suffer the brunt of that.

If I know enough about the poster you're quoting, he doesn't want anyone who doesn't look like him here, that includes your wife and your kids.

If it was just the case of kicking out foreign criminals and layabouts, we would all be for that.

Why stop at foreign criminals and layabouts? Kick out the British ones too

[Fray Bentos]

I'm an American so I don't know if that's true but it sounds like it could be right. Many Americans are conservative on immigration, but liberal on most social and economic issues.

The problem with a 'tough stance on immigration' is they want unrealistic demands - such as the promise of tens of thousands made by Theresa May - your country and mine rely on immigration and what people want - certain colours of people denied and the low numbers aren't going to happen. Not in todays world anyway.

My post wasn't really anti immigrant or pro immigrant, just a comment on how some people vote. The US certainly is "a nation of immigrants." As I've said, I don't know much about the UK situation, but the situation here is kind of complicated. The US certainly needs some immigration for low paying jobs, and anyone with any sense wants more high skilled immigrants.

Having said that, and here comes the but, there is an horrendous situation going on in parts of our Southern border. I would not want to necessarily own land anywhere near the border. I don't have a problem with tightening our borders in certain areas, but some legal immigration is not only inevitable but helpful.

That they're coming to well paid jobs means they won't be stopping any time soon. It is about time the collective grew up and made an agreement with Mexico that they can have some kind of freedom of movement where Mexican workers can work in the states and US retirees can retire to Mexico as there are two million old codgers over there, many of them illegal and that would be a win win - what then could happen is the deal involves Mexico protecting their southern border.

[Lenny Cravats]

Just listening to this Boris Johnson Partygate trial thing and I reckon, almost unbelievably, he's going to worm his way out of this.

Boris is a total and utter bullshitter extraordinaire but I think he's going to get away with it. Amazing really.

I'd hope not. The committees are pretty fact driven.... And he's a bullshitter. Fact.

Though Johnson is a slippery pudendum. So I wouldn't be surprised.
He lied in Parliament dozens and dozens of times.

[Fray Bentos]

It's the end of him as a major political figure, that's for sure.

He aint coming back - well, not as a tory anyway, he might make a resurgence if he joins Reform or make his own right wing, populist party. The amount of people defending him this afternoon on LBC shows he still has people who will vote for him whatever he does. He could be caught raping his dog and these idiots would be defending him.

The big news is that the ERG got trounced alongside the DUP in attempting to scupper Sunak's deal with the EU - 29 votes against? That's just embarrassing.

[TheRiverCityHippy]

What always amuses me is the mock outrage these professional liars have when one of them is caught lying. To me they are all the same, Johnson lied - so what? Starmer lied through his effin teeth to become leader of the Labour Party. When members of the shadow cabinent were recently asked if they"d seen Al Jazeerah"s Labour Files documentary they were all clearly lying their effin @rses off. The whole effin lot of them lie for a living.

[Tony1244]

The problem with a 'tough stance on immigration' is they want unrealistic demands - such as the promise of tens of thousands made by Theresa May - your country and mine rely on immigration and what people want - certain colours of people denied and the low numbers aren't going to happen. Not in todays world anyway.

My post wasn't really anti immigrant or pro immigrant, just a comment on how some people vote. The US certainly is "a nation of immigrants." As I've said, I don't know much about the UK situation, but the situation here is kind of complicated. The US certainly needs some immigration for low paying jobs, and anyone with any sense wants more high skilled immigrants.

Having said that, and here comes the but, there is an horrendous situation going on in parts of our Southern border. I would not want to necessarily own land anywhere near the border. I don't have a problem with tightening our borders in certain areas, but some legal immigration is not only inevitable but helpful.

That they're coming to well paid jobs means they won't be stopping any time soon. It is about time the collective grew up and made an agreement with Mexico that they can have some kind of freedom of movement where Mexican workers can work in the states and US retirees can retire to Mexico as there are two million old codgers over there, many of them illegal and that would be a win win - what then could happen is the deal involves Mexico protecting their southern border.

Agree, but makes way too much sense to be implemented.

[smiling assassin]

Labour would win a landslide in the next election if they took a tough stance against immigration.

But they won't, just like the Tories because they aren't going to be the victims of foreign criminals or terrorists, it's the everyday people going about their business who suffer the brunt of that.

If I know enough about the poster you're quoting, he doesn't want anyone who doesn't look like him here, that includes your wife and your kids.

If it was just the case of kicking out foreign criminals and layabouts, we would all be for that.

I don’t want England to lose anymore of its identity.

Im not against immigration full stop as I understand our NHS for one would not be able to run. What I am against is places being lost to immigration, parts of east London I should imagine are unrecognisable to what it was 50 years ago.

I see more mosques than ever and hear more foreign languages walking down the street than I ever had before.

If this makes me a racist to some so be it. I’m not going to change my view because it goes against the grain.

[Baby Face Finster]

But they won't, just like the Tories because they aren't going to be the victims of foreign criminals or terrorists, it's the everyday people going about their business who suffer the brunt of that.

If I know enough about the poster you're quoting, he doesn't want anyone who doesn't look like him here, that includes your wife and your kids.

If it was just the case of kicking out foreign criminals and layabouts, we would all be for that.

Why stop at foreign criminals and layabouts? Kick out the British ones too

Kick out the Royals. They are all foreigners of German stock.

[banjo]

If I know enough about the poster you're quoting, he doesn't want anyone who doesn't look like him here, that includes your wife and your kids.

If it was just the case of kicking out foreign criminals and layabouts, we would all be for that.

Why stop at foreign criminals and layabouts? Kick out the British ones too

Kick out the Royals. They are all foreigners of German stock.

A huge amount of Britain is of foreign stock, I've got Irish, Spanish and Norwegian in my bloodline.

[Lenny Cravats]

It's the end of him as a major political figure, that's for sure.

He aint coming back - well, not as a tory anyway, he might make a resurgence if he joins Reform or make his own right wing, populist party. The amount of people defending him this afternoon on LBC shows he still has people who will vote for him whatever he does. He could be caught raping his dog and these idiots would be defending him.

The big news is that the ERG got trounced alongside the DUP in attempting to scupper Sunak's deal with the EU - 29 votes against? That's just embarrassing.

Oddly, he's not that right wing. He's more of a libertarian, if one were to try categorize him.
What makes it difficult to categorize him is his willingness to jump to, or ditch, any cause that that he thinks will benefit him.
Pure narcissist. Listening to him today it has never been more apparent that he genuinely believes that the rules do not apply to him. The level of entitlement was absolutely sickening.

I didn't listen to LBC today, but I can imagine. I'm absolutely bewildered as to why people can't see him for the narcissistic, lying shit that he is. Even his own party saw it. I'll never understand the appeal that he has to huge amounts of voters, any voters but particularly the working class ones. It's like the last few years have been under some kind of collective mass hysteria.

I don't get it.

[Lenny Cravats]

Why stop at foreign criminals and layabouts? Kick out the British ones too

Kick out the Royals. They are all foreigners of German stock.

A huge amount of Britain is of foreign stock, I've got Irish, Spanish and Norwegian in my bloodline.

We did one of those family research things... Turns out my family pretty much evolved, separately from anyone else, from the primordial soup of South Yorkshire.

[Boxerbeetle]

Why stop at foreign criminals and layabouts? Kick out the British ones too

Kick out the Royals. They are all foreigners of German stock.

A huge amount of Britain is of foreign stock, I've got Irish, Spanish and Norwegian in my bloodline.

Get out !

[Coco]

Ironic that Patel and Suella are the most anti immigration

[Fray Bentos]

But they won't, just like the Tories because they aren't going to be the victims of foreign criminals or terrorists, it's the everyday people going about their business who suffer the brunt of that.

If I know enough about the poster you're quoting, he doesn't want anyone who doesn't look like him here, that includes your wife and your kids.

If it was just the case of kicking out foreign criminals and layabouts, we would all be for that.

I don’t want England to lose anymore of its identity.

Im not against immigration full stop as I understand our NHS for one would not be able to run. What I am against is places being lost to immigration, parts of east London I should imagine are unrecognisable to what it was 50 years ago.

I see more mosques than ever and hear more foreign languages walking down the street than I ever had before.

If this makes me a racist to some so be it. I’m not going to change my view because it goes against the grain.

I am not trolling you here, don't misunderstand it but the concept of England is foreign - the Angle tribe moved en masse from what was southern Denmark and northern Germany to these islands and it was that long ago in the great scheme of things.

The English language closet relation is Friesland language which is a Dutch language - 200 years ago, A Norfolk farmer and a Friesland farmer could have had a conversation with each other. A lot of the language is actually French with legal and military/police/cooking/animals coming from French and Latin.

British citizenship began with all the then British Empire being citizens - you could be black white, brown or whatever and be British from the concept of that citizenship (same with the Spanish...)

English identity does not come from these islands in the first place, the great thing about British and English identity is that it is a living organic culture which can change which is good because the day it can't or it won't - it will die.

I read something interesting the other day - I joined something called gedmatch which is a site where you put your ancestry DNA on this site - you can contact who are your blood relatives - even ones whose shared ancestry from 300 years ago, anyway, I have loads of these Swedish and Russian ancestors and I wrote to one of them and they wrote back and they were nice about it and they said 'look, if you go back as far as you have to link our common ancestor then we're not really related because if you go back a thousand years, then all Europeans are related to each other' and I thought 'well, that's bullshit' well, turns out that person was right - we only have to go back to King Harold and we all share common DNA with him.

Go back another 500-1000 years and we're all related to each other whatever colour or whoever we pray to in whatever continent we come from - we are all one big family - mankind.

2000 years and we are all interconnected by blood and ancestry, those people on the boats - they're your family, your relatives, your kith and kin as am I - and I love and pray for you to accept everyone as your family no matter where they are from.

[Fray Bentos]

Ironic that Patel and Suella are the most anti immigration

Well, they're just a pair of pudenda and I hate their guts and they would be the first ones on a fornicating plane to Rwanda.

[Coco]

Ironic that Patel and Suella are the most anti immigration

Well, they're just a pair of pudenda and I hate their guts and they would be the first ones on a fornicating plane to Rwanda.

Their folks would never have been allowed off the boat

[Jaguar]

Just listening to this Boris Johnson Partygate trial thing and I reckon, almost unbelievably, he's going to worm his way out of this.

Boris is a total and utter bullshitter extraordinaire but I think he's going to get away with it. Amazing really.

I'd hope not. The committees are pretty fact driven.... And he's a bullshitter. Fact.

Though Johnson is a slippery pudendum. So I wouldn't be surprised.
He lied in Parliament dozens and dozens of times.

That Johnson was at these parties isn't in dispute. There are photos of him at crowded piss ups and he's already been fined for that by the Met. So, that's that.

This is about whether Boris purposefully misled parliament and he's admitting he did mislead parliament. His defence is that he did not do so purposefully.

Well, we all know he did, but I thought Boris did a pretty good job yesterday at defending the indefensible. Lying, bluffing and obfuscating, and I think he'll get away with it inasmuch as he'll end up with a reprimand or a lower penalty.

I don't think we've seen the last of Boris yet. This is a man who's been in scrapes all his life. Anybody else would've held there hands up, but Boris hasn't and somehow I think he'll manage to bluff and bluster his way through this.

[chinarich]

Johnson 'inadvertently' doxxed two confidential witnesses during the Privileges Committee hearing yesterday, no doubt a ploy to prevent others coming forward in similar circumstances for related or future proceedings. He evidently took yesterday seriously, he had run a comb through his hair and didn't look like he'd slept in his clothes.

[Baby Face Finster]

Kick out the Royals. They are all foreigners of German stock.

A huge amount of Britain is of foreign stock, I've got Irish, Spanish and Norwegian in my bloodline.

Get out !

[Fray Bentos]

Yesterday showed what an absolute psychopath he is - trying to shout down his interrogators who were pointing out truth and fact to him and he was going 'do you believe me or your lying eyes?' it's not even about the depths of what a normal person would stop when caught red handed - yesterday showed me that Boris Johnson is mentally ill. Psychotic and delusional - well one thing at least, we can all stop pretending about his is fluffy, cuddly 'big dog' persona, he is an utter psychotic savage who would probably kill if it was beneficial to him and he could get away with it.

[Counter-puncher]

once again I feel compelled to mention that Trussy needs to die, and I'm entirely serious:


Now Liz Truss joins the lucrative corporate speaking circuit as she signs up Boris Johnson agency


Liz Truss has signed up with a corporate speaking agency that has helped Boris Johnson make millions since leaving Downing Street, it has been revealed.

Truss, whose 49-day premiership makes her the shortest-serving prime minister in UK history, is billed as a 'leading global conservative' in her listing with Chartwell Speakers.

The move was revealed in a report by the ministerial watchdog Acoba, which cleared her to join.

In its biography of Ms Truss, Chartwell describes her as being PM in 'a momentous and tempestuous period' for Britain.

'After leading the nation in mourning Her Late Majesty, Liz set about implementing her Plan for Growth, including a raft of tax cuts to kick-start economic growth, deregulation and reforms to boost productivity,' it notes.

'However, she faced huge resistance from those who wanted to maintain the status quo and reached the conclusion that she could not deliver the mandate on which she had been elected and therefore stepped down.'

note, NOT 'she fvcked up and crashed the economy and resigned a total embarassment and fvcking loser' but 'she faced huge resistance from those who wanted to maintain the status quo and reached the conclusion that she could not deliver the mandate on which she had been elected'. IT'S EVERYONE ELSE'S FAULT, BUT NOT TRUSSY'S. Like I say, she needs to fvcking die.

they are entirely unashamed in still trying to push their low-tax agenda. they should all be fvcking shot, including everyone at 'Chartwell Speakers'. Trussy did, of course, perform the increibly important job of 'leading the nation in mourning her Majesty', and, well, however would we have coped without Trussy's sure hand, at that difficult time?

[Bodyshot3]

Yesterday showed what an absolute psychopath he is - trying to shout down his interrogators who were pointing out truth and fact to him and he was going 'do you believe me or your lying eyes?' it's not even about the depths of what a normal person would stop when caught red handed - yesterday showed me that Boris Johnson is mentally ill. Psychotic and delusional - well one thing at least, we can all stop pretending about his is fluffy, cuddly 'big dog' persona, he is an utter psychotic savage who would probably kill if it was beneficial to him and he could get away with it.

Not an unreasonable call RCH

The underlying fear that Johnson was a ruthless, amoral Machievllian - and first signposted by Gove of all people - is proving to be an entirely accurate assessment.

When Gove - who is a properly nasty shithouse himself - picks someone out as wrong 'un then you have been duly put on notice. Even the slithering viper Dominic Cummings decided to speak-up as well.

What's wrong about Johnson is that he simply does not get that high public office comes with the need for some high personal responsibility, integrity and leadership.

The British have many failings but we don't tolerate liars and leaders who blatantly excuse themselves from their own rules, we eventually suss-out them out and drown them in a Parliamentary committee

[SticknMove]

It's the end of him as a major political figure, that's for sure.

He aint coming back - well, not as a tory anyway, he might make a resurgence if he joins Reform or make his own right wing, populist party. The amount of people defending him this afternoon on LBC shows he still has people who will vote for him whatever he does. He could be caught raping his dog and these idiots would be defending him.

The big news is that the ERG got trounced alongside the DUP in attempting to scupper Sunak's deal with the EU - 29 votes against? That's just embarrassing.

Oddly, he's not that right wing. He's more of a libertarian, if one were to try categorize him.
What makes it difficult to categorize him is his willingness to jump to, or ditch, any cause that that he thinks will benefit him.
Pure narcissist. Listening to him today it has never been more apparent that he genuinely believes that the rules do not apply to him. The level of entitlement was absolutely sickening.

I didn't listen to LBC today, but I can imagine. I'm absolutely bewildered as to why people can't see him for the narcissistic, lying shit that he is. Even his own party saw it. I'll never understand the appeal that he has to huge amounts of voters, any voters but particularly the working class ones. It's like the last few years have been under some kind of collective mass hysteria.

I don't get it.

He's not right wing for sure. Just a populist libertarian. I said it before.....was surprised and disappointed he made London Mayor let alone the 'top job'. HIGNFY appearances gave him profile. He is or never was a serious leader....but that is part of his charm I guess.

[Counter-puncher]

as usual with Britain and the tories, the migrant 'crisis' has very different effects according to where you live, and of course this means that certain areas- the north and the midlands- take the vast majority of the migrants, and certain areas- the south east and south west- take a minority. So of course the migrants are placed in those areas that are already depressed and therefore least able to cope with them. But then, at least they're not ruining a nice area like Hemel Hemstead, eh?

A North-South divide has opened up in the UK's "broken" asylum system, with towns and cities in Northern England and Scotland taking in far more asylum seekers than other parts of the country. The North East is housing a larger proportion of people fleeing persecution than any other region of the UK, with a rate TEN TIMES higher than the South East and South West.


Cities in Scotland, Northern Ireland, and the North of England are hosting far higher rates of asylum seekers in 'dispersed accommodation' like hotels, compared to those in the South.

Glasgow is hosting a total of 4,456 people, which is a rate of 70 per 10,000 population - the highest rate of any area in the UK.

In England, the North West borough of Halton - which contains Runcorn and Widnes - has England's highest rate, followed jointly by the North East areas of Newcastle, Middlesbrough, and Hartlepool.

Amid a furious political row about the Government plan to stop asylum seekers arriving in the UK on small boats, Northern areas currently take a disproportionate share of those fleeing the world's troublespots because accommodation is cheaper than in the more affluent South.

Of the 20 areas with the highest rate of asylum seekers in 'dispersed accommodation', half are in the North of England.

[Jaguar]

I've long suspected this is the case.