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Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 14 Dec 2022, 13:56
by AngryGoon38
At 160 and a rematch at 168.
I think Hagler by 7-4-1 decision at 160.
I think Toney by 6-4-2 decision in a rematch at 168.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 14 Dec 2022, 13:58
by gilgamesh
At 160. Hagler wins a Unanimous Decision.
Hagler never competed at 168. So there's nothing to base it on.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 15 Dec 2022, 10:19
by keithmoonhangover
AngryGoon38 wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 13:56
At 160 and a rematch at 168.
I think Hagler by 7-4-1 decision at 160.
I think Toney by 6-4-2 decision in a rematch at 168.
Even on his worst night, Marvin Hagler wouldn't have been outworked by Dave Tiberi. Prime Hagler would eat Toney alive and get a late RSF in a fifteen rounder.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 15 Dec 2022, 13:55
by scorpio83
gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 13:58
At 160. Hagler wins a Unanimous Decision.
Hagler never competed at 168. So there's nothing to base it on.
The Marvelous One would out-box and out-punch Toney at 160lbs to take a decision as Hagler would survive the Lights Out with his great iron chin.
Like Gilgamesh posted earlier, there's nothing to base on if Hagler ever fought at 168ls that he never fought at.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 15 Dec 2022, 18:27
by AngryGoon38
scorpio83 wrote: ↑15 Dec 2022, 13:55
gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 13:58
At 160. Hagler wins a Unanimous Decision.
Hagler never competed at 168. So there's nothing to base it on.
The Marvelous One would out-box and out-punch Toney at 160lbs to take a decision as Hagler would survive the Lights Out with his great iron chin.
Like Gilgamesh posted earlier, there's nothing to base on if Hagler ever fought at 168ls that he never fought at.
Doesn't seem too much of a stretch to me, to imagine Hagler boxing against Toney at 168.
I just think that Toney would be the slightly better SMW, after coming up from Regular MW, than Hagler would've been.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 16 Dec 2022, 12:59
by DrDuke
Hagler wins confidently. He could make pressure effective, that would make Toney utterly defensive.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 17 Dec 2022, 15:36
by elmersalsa
Marvelous by decision. The great James "Lights Out" Toney was one of my favorite fighters, but he only beats Marvelous in the night of the Leonard fight in '87. Any other night, Marvelous wins most of the time.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 17 Dec 2022, 16:14
by emallini
Both at absolute best I think this is seriously close.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 19 Dec 2022, 11:56
by Ambling Alp II
At 160, Hagler would have won by a convincing decision.
168 is more difficult to say, but I would still bet on Hagler.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 19 Dec 2022, 12:44
by keithmoonhangover
emallini wrote: ↑17 Dec 2022, 16:14
Both at absolute best I think this is seriously close.
Name me one of Toney's fights @160 and 168 that shows he would be competitive with peak Hagler.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 19 Dec 2022, 20:10
by goose 5
The first McCallum fight.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 20 Dec 2022, 10:50
by elmersalsa
goose 5 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 20:10
The first McCallum fight.
Re: Marvin Hagler vs James Toney
Posted: 21 Dec 2022, 09:27
by keithmoonhangover
goose 5 wrote: ↑19 Dec 2022, 20:10
The first McCallum fight.
He was good in that fight, but it was close and Hagler was a completely different proposition.