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Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 21 Dec 2022, 15:12
by Controversial
What ATG do you think had weakest opposition?
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 21 Dec 2022, 15:17
by gilgamesh
Aaron Pryor really only has Alexis Arguello in his 4th weight class.
Probably Pryor
Julio Cesar Chavez's isn't too deep when you look past the numbers either.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 21 Dec 2022, 16:21
by DrDuke
Wlad and Citakyare obvuous hoiced
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 21 Dec 2022, 16:26
by margaret thatcher
DrDuke wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 16:21
Wlad and Citakyare obvuous hoiced
who da f@ck is citakyare my man?
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 21 Dec 2022, 16:29
by Ambling Alp II
gilgamesh wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 15:17
Aaron Pryor really only has Alexis Arguello in his 4th weight class.
Probably Pryor
Julio Cesar Chavez's isn't too deep when you look past the numbers either.
Chavez? You have to be kidding.
He beat Camacho, and Rosario. Also beat several good fighters like Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Greg Haugen, Tony Lopez, Ramirez. He beat a lot of stiffs as well. However, there is no question he beat a lot of quality competition. His resume is very deep.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 21 Dec 2022, 17:10
by Sweet Dick Willie
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 16:29
gilgamesh wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 15:17
Aaron Pryor really only has Alexis Arguello in his 4th weight class.
Probably Pryor
Julio Cesar Chavez's isn't too deep when you look past the numbers either.
Chavez? You have to be kidding.
He beat Camacho, and Rosario. Also beat several good fighters like Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Greg Haugen, Tony Lopez, Ramirez. He beat a lot of stiffs as well. However, there is no question he beat a lot of quality competition. His resume is very deep.
It is deep for sure. Although Camacho was waaay past his prime in 1992.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 00:04
by DrDuke
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 16:26
DrDuke wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 16:21
Wlad and Citakyare obvuous hoiced
who da f@ck is citakyare my man?
Dunno, I was drunk as f8ck when I wrote it.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 01:08
by margaret thatcher
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 03:31
by gilgamesh
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 16:29
gilgamesh wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 15:17
Aaron Pryor really only has Alexis Arguello in his 4th weight class.
Probably Pryor
Julio Cesar Chavez's isn't too deep when you look past the numbers either.
Chavez? You have to be kidding.
He beat Camacho, and Rosario. Also beat several good fighters like Roger Mayweather, Rocky Lockridge, Greg Haugen, Tony Lopez, Ramirez. He beat a lot of stiffs as well. However, there is no question he beat a lot of quality competition. His resume is very deep.
What about Pryor
Other than Arguello 2x and Cervantes. He don't got much.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 03:35
by 1150004
Probably Marciano (I'll get some abuse for that)
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 04:55
by keithmoonhangover
I think the word Great is thrown around too much. Names like Riddick Bowe and James Toney are not All Time Great boxers. ATGs are the best of the best.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 05:35
by Ezzard
Roy Jones
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 22 Dec 2022, 13:13
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Dec 2022, 04:55
I think the word Great is thrown around too much. Names like Riddick Bowe and James Toney are not All Time Great boxers. ATGs are the best of the best.
To me when you say a guy is an ATG it just means he'd be formidable in any era you'd wanna drop him into. I can't really see too many guys from any era making easy work out of Bowe or Toney at their best.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 24 Dec 2022, 14:37
by oogiebe
1150004 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2022, 03:35
Probably Marciano (I'll get some abuse for that)
Shouldn't get abuse at all. I was just about to post the same.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 24 Dec 2022, 19:48
by gilgamesh
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 14:37
1150004 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2022, 03:35
Probably Marciano (I'll get some abuse for that)
Shouldn't get abuse at all. I was just about to post the same.
Marciano doesn't have a ton of huge names, but Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles are both Top 5 all time Light Heavyweights so beating them is significant.
Of course the win over Joe Louis is good on paper, but it wasn't a peak Joe as we all know. The wins over La Starza ain't bad.
Ultimately his resume is fairly weak, but at least there's more than 1 name of note on it. There's some guys who's resume is basically only 1 significant win deep.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 26 Dec 2022, 13:01
by adislav123
DrDuke wrote: ↑22 Dec 2022, 00:04
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 16:26
DrDuke wrote: ↑21 Dec 2022, 16:21
Wlad and Citakyare obvuous hoiced
who da f@ck is citakyare my man?
Dunno, I was drunk as f8ck when I wrote it.
quiok guedd is je wamted to tyipe vitaöy.
VITALY. the lefters are next to eavh ozher...
VLAD & VITALY
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 27 Dec 2022, 14:11
by emallini
Is Joe Calzaghe considered ATG?
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 31 Dec 2022, 01:16
by Bone Apple Tea
Ricardo Lopez.
With how stacked his era was for the little guys, he somehow managed to face basically none of them.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 31 Dec 2022, 12:43
by oogiebe
Imagine how great you are to be the guy with the weakest ATG record!!
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 01 Jan 2023, 09:50
by adislav123
gilgamesh wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 19:48
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 14:37
1150004 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2022, 03:35
Probably Marciano (I'll get some abuse for that)
Shouldn't get abuse at all. I was just about to post the same.
Marciano doesn't have a ton of huge names, but Archie Moore and Ezzard Charles are both Top 5 all time Light Heavyweights so beating them is significant.
Of course the win over Joe Louis is good on paper, but it wasn't a peak Joe as we all know. The wins over La Starza ain't bad.
Ultimately his resume is fairly weak, but at least there's more than 1 name of note on it. There's some guys who's resume is basically only 1 significant win deep.
who should he have fought then to make his r3sume less 'weak'?
he fought and beat everybody that was put in front of him.
did the original 'rock' duck anybody as champion or before?
maybe i just don't get it but this 'weak resume' discussion doesn't really make a whole lotta sense to me, at least in his case.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 01 Jan 2023, 16:35
by gilgamesh
There's definitely a lot of guys with weaker resumes than Marciano.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 02 Jan 2023, 08:40
by Controversial
adislav123 wrote: ↑01 Jan 2023, 09:50
maybe i just don't get it but this 'weak resume' discussion doesn't really make a whole lotta sense to me, at least in his case.
Just interesting to see who had the easier route to being an ATG. Of course every career is different and not everyone has great opposition around like others did. Marciano is an ATG but for me he didn't beat anyone of note who was in their prime. Louis, Walcott, Charles and Moore are all ATG fighters but they were all past their best years.
Re: Weakest resume for an ATG belongs to....
Posted: 02 Jan 2023, 13:18
by Ambling Alp II
Walcott still had a lot left when he fought Marciano the first time. Simply watching the fight shows that.
