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Hamed is one of those boxing superstars I never quite understood why people thought he was so great unless the British are simply all about the flash and the presentation.

Usually when it comes to these kind of questions I'm always reminded of white hopes or hype jobs who were build up as the next heavyweight champion only for them to fall short. David Price is one of the more recent examples I can think of that. I think retrospectively his career would have been much better had he never been pushed to be a world beater and just settled for being the British and Commonwealth heavyweight champion kind of like Henry Cooper was for years and years.

AngryGoon38 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 18:50 "Jorge Luis Gonzalez".
He would be the ultimate proverbial example.
After the devastating KO Loss to Bowe, that was the wrap for Jorge.
He went 4-7 for the remainder of his carear, following that loss which ended his 27-0 start.

"Duane Bobick" would be another proverbial example. Started out at 38-0, before taking on Ken Norton in 1977 and losing by a Brutal first round Tko. My Dad told me that he got punched in the neck, and wasn't able to recover from there onwards.
The times I've watched that bout I couldn't Really spot the neck punch but I remember my Dad being quite certain about it.
He saw the fight live on tv. I was just a 7 year old non sports fan kid at the time, who was probably playing with my star wars or shogun warrior toys.

"Arthur Pelkey", A Canadian heavyweight boxer who fought from 1906-1918..? He would also be a proverbial example of this thread topic. Even though he wasn't undefeated himself at the time that he won against an undefeated superstar prospect. Pelkey easily Ko'd Luther McCarthy, A great prospect at the time, but something was Very off with the whole scenario. McCarthy stayed down and remained in a deep state of unconsciousness after being Ko'd, and seemingly so easily as well.
In this bout of Pelkey taking on hot prospect McCarthy in 1913, McCarthy apparently had already had a semi broken neck entering the bout. From A flukey training accident.

He(McCarthy) apparently didn't realize how serious it was(His neck injury)and therefore didn't forfeit, as he should've. And certainly would've, had the proper realistic awareness and diagnosis of the situation been there. No footage of the bout remains, but I remember reading a good amount about it, way back in the day, and what happened to Pelkey's boxing carear following the tragic in the ring death of McCarthy.
Pelkey went on to lose 20 of his next 21 bouts. And then he passed away soon thereafter.

Controversial wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 20:11

AngryGoon38 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 18:50 "Jorge Luis Gonzalez".
He would be the ultimate proverbial example.
After the devastating KO Loss to Bowe, that was the wrap for Jorge.
He went 4-7 for the remainder of his carear, following that loss which ended his 27-0 start.

"Duane Bobick" would be another proverbial example. Started out at 38-0, before taking on Ken Norton in 1977 and losing by a Brutal first round Tko. My Dad told me that he got punched in the neck, and wasn't able to recover from there onwards.
The times I've watched that bout I couldn't Really spot the neck punch but I remember my Dad being quite certain about it.
He saw the fight live on tv. I was just a 7 year old non sports fan kid at the time, who was probably playing with my star wars or shogun warrior toys.

"Arthur Pelkey", A Canadian heavyweight boxer who fought from 1906-1918..? He would also be a proverbial example of this thread topic. Even though he wasn't undefeated himself at the time that he won against an undefeated superstar prospect. Pelkey easily Ko'd Luther McCarthy, A great prospect at the time, but something was Very off with the whole scenario. McCarthy stayed down and remained in a deep state of unconsciousness after being Ko'd, and seemingly so easily as well.
In this bout of Pelkey taking on hot prospect McCarthy in 1913, McCarthy apparently had already had a semi broken neck entering the bout. From A flukey training accident.

He(McCarthy) apparently didn't realize how serious it was(His neck injury)and therefore didn't forfeit, as he should've. And certainly would've, had the proper realistic awareness and diagnosis of the situation been there. No footage of the bout remains, but I remember reading a good amount about it, way back in the day, and what happened to Pelkey's boxing carear following the tragic in the ring death of McCarthy.
Pelkey went on to lose 20 of his next 21 bouts. And then he passed away soon thereafter.

Nice!

Bodyshot3 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 15:48

Hamed is one of those boxing superstars I never quite understood why people thought he was so great unless the British are simply all about the flash and the presentation.

Usually when it comes to these kind of questions I'm always reminded of white hopes or hype jobs who were build up as the next heavyweight champion only for them to fall short. David Price is one of the more recent examples I can think of that. I think retrospectively his career would have been much better had he never been pushed to be a world beater and just settled for being the British and Commonwealth heavyweight champion kind of like Henry Cooper was for years and years.

Hamed was slotting good American and Latin American fighters with titles to their name for fun mate....and had the titles to show for it.

He was a whole world away and leagues above David Price and had moved beyond British, Commonwealth and European assignations very early. Give his record another review.

That was why he was paired with Barrera in a huge Vegas fight.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑06 Jan 2023, 14:19

Bodyshot3 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 15:48

Hamed is one of those boxing superstars I never quite understood why people thought he was so great unless the British are simply all about the flash and the presentation.

Usually when it comes to these kind of questions I'm always reminded of white hopes or hype jobs who were build up as the next heavyweight champion only for them to fall short. David Price is one of the more recent examples I can think of that. I think retrospectively his career would have been much better had he never been pushed to be a world beater and just settled for being the British and Commonwealth heavyweight champion kind of like Henry Cooper was for years and years.

Hamed was slotting good American and Latin American fighters with titles to their name for fun mate....and had the titles to show for it.

He was a whole world away and leagues above David Price and had moved beyond British, Commonwealth and European assignations very early. Give his record another review.

That was why he was paired with Barrera in a huge Vegas fight.

Hamed does fit this thread though.

After 1 loss he basically just kinda lost interest in Boxing it seemed.

Hamed does fit this thread though.

After 1 loss he basically just kinda lost interest in Boxing it seemed.

Felix Trinidad was similar. What was he 40-0 coming into the Hopkins fight? Something like that. After that he was 2-2.

Now I think that's the weight class as much as anything, but he was also a guy who seemed to mentally unravel due to losses.

Syntax Error wrote: ↑06 Jan 2023, 20:00 Jeff Lacy.

After Calzaghe literally slapped him silly, he never really regained that fearsome reputation he had previously.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 10:19 Wladimir Klitschko?