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How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 04 Jan 2023, 20:48
by 1154882
Big man seems confident and has plenty of ability but he has a couple of stand out amateur defeats so can he go all the way or does he fall short?
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 04 Jan 2023, 20:57
by KiwiRider
They are moving him too slowly, and at too lower a level.
He hasn't learned anything as a pro yet, just wasted a year when he can't afford to waste any years at his age and how slowly the division now moves.
He has the potential to be a contender at least.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 00:59
by Grilling Machine
He should maybe cut straight to it and risk Wardley. Be a huge leapfrog if he won, and Fabio's probably gonna be too far up the ladder soon.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 01:36
by DrDuke
It's unclear, while he's on the can diet.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 02:32
by margaret thatcher
hard to say, he's got a very good amateur background and is a big strong lump, though i cant say he's really impressed me in the pros and you only get so many joe joyces who look sh!t to the eye but can keep carrying the effectiveness up the levels. and also only so many joyces who turn pro in their 30s yet seemingly keep getting better.
actually, a poor man's joyce is a bit how i see him. granted, that might still be enough to have a good pro career
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 04:16
by Ruthless-RKO
Can’t say at this point in my opinion.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 06:42
by joshj909
He can replicate Joyce or Zhang or Ortiz depending on how his career moves and how he approaches it all. He doesn't want to be 35 claiming to be avoided and still nowhere close to a title shot.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 07:18
by tony1234
Needs to be fighting ten rounders for inter continental trinkets at this stage. Pointless knocking over Bulgarian bin men , he needs to be matched ambitiously
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 07:27
by Nightmare Roy
Loma, that's how you should match a standout amateur, well maybe not quite as fast but what is the point of fighting bouncers at that level?
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 10:09
by spudder56
Needs to move up a notch quickly or else time will pass him by imo
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 10:09
by spudder56
Needs to move up a notch quickly or else time will pass him by imo
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 10:13
by Ruthless-RKO
spudder56 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 10:09
Needs to move up a notch quickly or else time will pass him by imo
100%..
Even if fights 5-6 times this year (never gonna happen) against BoxRec (30-70)
There’s some “names” there..
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 10:26
by black panther
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 10:13
spudder56 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 10:09
Needs to move up a notch quickly or else time will pass him by imo
100%..
Even if fights 5-6 times this year (never gonna happen) against BoxRec (30-70)
There’s some “names” there..
Agreed moving far too slowly both in terms of frequency of fights and level of competition.
But either way reckon he will end up fighting for a world title. Doesnt really matter these days how good you are to get into a position for fighting for a world title.
But his ceiling is fringe world level/Euro IMO.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 11:05
by Ezzard
Very likeable guy. Hope to see him at the very to soon.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 11:09
by stujones
I think in the state of the division it is quite hard to tell - it is really in a poor state. I think he is probably as good (or potentially as good) as a prime Matt Skelton - but how far would Matt go now - the peak years Skelton could quite possibly be genuine top 10 these days.
Any other era I would say European title at best.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 11:18
by Twinkle Toes
I think if he was anything special he would have walked through Sokolowski. Especially with how shop worn Soko is.
I don't think the match making is going to be very aggressive. With how much money SKY have thrown at people like Clarke. They will tread carefully and wait for the right time to go.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 12:37
by JC
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 02:32
hard to say, he's got a very good amateur background and is a big strong lump, though i cant say he's really impressed me in the pros and you only get so many joe joyces who look sh!t to the eye but can keep carrying the effectiveness up the levels. and also only so many joyces who turn pro in their 30s yet seemingly keep getting better.
actually, a poor man's joyce is a bit how i see him. granted, that might still be enough to have a good pro career
Clarke's ABA final vs Joyce was a great punch-up.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 15:31
by wrighty
I think he'll win the British title and maybe get the the European. He'll get a good haul of belts
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 05 Jan 2023, 21:46
by 1143850
Joyce made his debut against Lewison who'd fought for the British title in his previous fight (and the WBO Asia Pacific in the one before that) I thought/hoped they'd do similar with Clarke.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 06 Jan 2023, 06:11
by Ruthless-RKO
1143850 wrote: ↑05 Jan 2023, 21:46
Joyce made his debut against Lewison who'd fought for the British title in his previous fight (and the WBO Asia Pacific in the one before that) I thought/hoped they'd do similar with Clarke.
And that was being promoted by David Haye.
Clarke has Sky behind him.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 07 Jan 2023, 02:02
by veriton
Get him in with Nathan Gorman next
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 07 Jan 2023, 04:05
by KiwiRider
veriton wrote: ↑07 Jan 2023, 02:02
Get him in with Nathan Gorman next
Good call!
I would have thought The Eraser could have fought him in his 2nd or 3rd fight.
That is the level he needs to be at.
Gorman then Fabio for the British.
No more mucking around.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 07 Jan 2023, 04:46
by gregregegg
Fraz Clark should be eying an English title soon. Get that then alternate between English defences and 8 rounders vs overseas tough journeymen..
After 8-10 or so more fights (being busy) go after the British…
That’s the smart way I think. But if at any point he wants to chance it earlier and go after wardlys British it would be fun as fornicate. And sky being kinda desperate for big heavyweight fights Mabey that’s somthing they would throw cash at.
Re: How far can Frazer Clark go?
Posted: 07 Jan 2023, 08:24
by Dioufy
Bored of his progress. Will tune in in 18 months when he fights for the vacant British.