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Who wins between John Wayne's grandson vs the first Latin fighter to win a world heavyweight title?

I probably would pick Tommy "The Duke" Morrison by knockout.

I gotta imagine The Duke gets him at some point. Ruiz might make it ugly enough to survive a few rounds there, but I think Tommy had quick enough hands, and an explosive enough inside game that he'd ultimately take out Ruiz.

Morrison would repeat the Tua stuff on the Hugging Man, not necessarily the same fast, but it would be an early KO by Tommy.

The Duke would knock out the Hugging Man in 5 rounds with a big left hook.

DrDuke wrote: ↑15 Jan 2023, 08:49 Morrison would repeat the Tua stuff on the Hugging Man, not necessarily the same fast, but it would be an early KO by Tommy.

The Tua fight was before the Hugging style was implemented.
I give Ruiz a chance if he can jab jab hug hug jab while avoiding contact with Morrison.
But the likely outcome is Morrison by KO in the mid to late rounds

surprise the consensus is that ruiz is getting ko'd , aside from the tua fight he was always durable and a hell of a spoiler. tommy had more offensive tools obviously, but most of his kos were over cans or well faded opposition. i think ruiz could give him some problems with the ugly stuff, especially later. i'd go for tommy to have a big first half, maybe score a kd, then fade but still hold on for a decision

Ruiz points in a stinker.

I always was a fan of John Ruiz even if his style stinks because the man seemingly was willing to fight anybody and he was better than his style let on because he did have a very sneaky overhand right and he did have pretty good hand speed.

I think if he survived an early onslaught from Tommy Morrison he would basically have the potential to pull off an upset. While John Ruiz was consistently boring he was at least consistent the same cannot be said of Tommy Morrison's performances.

The man did get a win over Andrew Golota, Hasim Rahman, and in my personal opinion he was robbed twice against Nicolai Valuev. I don't think John Ruiz would just be this big pushover for Tommy Morrison. One thing people have to remember is that Tommy Morrison did not have the best cardio, while John Ruiz never seem to have a problem going 12 rounds.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑15 Jan 2023, 20:43 I always was a fan of John Ruiz even if his style stinks because the man seemingly was willing to fight anybody and he was better than his style let on because he did have a very sneaky overhand right and he did have pretty good hand speed.

I think if he survived an early onslaught from Tommy Morrison he would basically have the potential to pull off an upset. While John Ruiz was consistently boring he was at least consistent the same cannot be said of Tommy Morrison's performances.

The man did get a win over Andrew Golota, Hasim Rahman, and in my personal opinion he was robbed twice against Nicolai Valuev. I don't think John Ruiz would just be this big pushover for Tommy Morrison. One thing people have to remember is that Tommy Morrison did not have the best cardio, while John Ruiz never seem to have a problem going 12 rounds.

I thought Golota got jobbed against Ruiz personally.

You're right though that dull as he was Ruiz did actually wind up putting together a reasonably respectable resume. Beating Rahman, Holyfield, Fres Oquendo. Most of his fights were ugly as ugly gets, but he was a weirdly effective guy.

The Golota fight I actually enjoyed for a few reasons. Mainly his cornermen got kicked out of the corner for arguing with the referee, and it was f*cking hilarious

Ruiz points

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023, 00:32

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑15 Jan 2023, 20:43 I always was a fan of John Ruiz even if his style stinks because the man seemingly was willing to fight anybody and he was better than his style let on because he did have a very sneaky overhand right and he did have pretty good hand speed.

I think if he survived an early onslaught from Tommy Morrison he would basically have the potential to pull off an upset. While John Ruiz was consistently boring he was at least consistent the same cannot be said of Tommy Morrison's performances.

The man did get a win over Andrew Golota, Hasim Rahman, and in my personal opinion he was robbed twice against Nicolai Valuev. I don't think John Ruiz would just be this big pushover for Tommy Morrison. One thing people have to remember is that Tommy Morrison did not have the best cardio, while John Ruiz never seem to have a problem going 12 rounds.

I thought Golota got jobbed against Ruiz personally.

You're right though that dull as he was Ruiz did actually wind up putting together a reasonably respectable resume. Beating Rahman, Holyfield, Fres Oquendo. Most of his fights were ugly as ugly gets, but he was a weirdly effective guy.

The Golota fight I actually enjoyed for a few reasons. Mainly his cornermen got kicked out of the corner for arguing with the referee, and it was f*cking hilarious

Norman "Stoney" Stone was hilarious. Interviewed him once or twice back when I did podcasts on ATGRADIO.

Stoney was the best thing related to f8ckin' John Ruiz.

It's weird how some people just gloss over Morrison getting stuffed by Bentt, as if it was some kind of fluke. Michael was a very good amateur and he beat Morrison fair and square.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑16 Jan 2023, 13:41 It's weird how some people just gloss over Morrison getting stuffed by Bentt, as if it was some kind of fluke. Michael was a very good amateur and he beat Morrison fair and square.

It was a fluke. Morrison jumped face first on the wobbled Bentt, the best present you can do to your opponent. It was a classical example of a lucky punch.

Bentt could be an accomplished amateur, but this can mean nothing in the pros. There's quite an amount of similar examples. Bentt doesn't have any other win of note. He was outclassed and destroyed by Herbie Hide.

Ruiz is better than tommy
Hed gas him with all the grappling

Here is the "GPT3" result.

John Ruiz vs Tommy Morrison

Fight info: Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, NV, United States, 2021-06-26, announcer is Johnny Addie, referee is Gary Rosato, the bout will be scored by three judges: Bobby Wells (United States), James Hoomaian (United States) and George Kachulis (United States), ring card girl is Amy Longlegs, this is not a title bout, the bout is scheduled for 12 rounds, Unified-rules are in effect, three KD rule is not in effect, save by the bell is not in effect, only the referee can stop the fight, mandatory 8 count is not in effect, fight stopped due to an accidental head butt: Tech. Draw through 4/Scorecard after 4, game will check for injuries, game will adjust ratings for weight class, use judges bias is set to 'use bias rating', Scoring System is 10 Points
In the red corner: John Ruiz - Record: 0-0-0 - Career Stage: Prime - Conditioning: Top Condition - Trainer: Jesus Rivero - Cut Man: Ted Walker
In the blue corner: Tommy Morrison - Record: 0-0-0 - Career Stage: Prime - Conditioning: Top Condition - Trainer: Bill Gore - Cut Man: Danny Florio

Round 1
Time Commentary Points
0:00 There's the bell and this contest is underway. 0:0
0:22 Ruiz bounces off the ropes, challenging Morrison to come get him. 0:0
0:34 Morrison does a great job with subtle movement to avoid Ruiz's punches in close. 0:0
0:41 Morrison cranks up the hook and connects to Ruiz's jaw, that one had bad intent behind it! 0:4
0:41 Ruiz looks like he was hurt by that punch! 0:4
0:51 As high as Ruiz is holding his gloves he is leaving his body wide open to a damaging body punch if Morrison takes advantage of it. 0:4
01:03 Ruiz wraps his arms around Morrison. 0:4
01:13 Rosato breaks them up... 0:4
01:22 Morrison backs into the left corner. 0:4
01:22 Ruiz catches Morrison with a nice cross. 3:4
01:40 That was a violent straight right by Ruiz! 7:4
01:40 Morrison is suddenly in trouble! 7:4
01:52 * Ruiz has Morrison in a headlock as he rains down punches, Rosato breaks the fighters and issues a stern warning to him 11:4
02:15 Morrison is protecting the body nicely as Ruiz fails to score inside. 11:4
02:23 Morrison scores with a hard uppercut upstairs from the inside. 11:7
02:39 Morrison pummels Ruiz, capping off his assault with a stiff cross! 11:12
02:39 Ruiz was shaken by that blow! 11:12
02:53 And Ruiz tastes the power of a huge hook from Morrison! 11:16
02:53 Ruiz was stunned by that blow! 11:16
03:00 Morrison just comes up short with the cross. 11:16
03:00 That was a great round as both combatants gave it everything they had and then some. 11:17

Round 2
Time Commentary Points
0:00 Morrison is getting his full rest as he remains on his stool as the Round 2 bell sounds. Now he's up and his corner scrambles to exit the ring. 0:0
0:09 Ruiz has Tommy Morrison trapped! 0:0
0:13 Ruiz misses with the left and then fails to connect with the right as well. 0:0
0:15 Tommy Morrison shoots the jab into the chest of John Ruiz. 0:2
0:24 Danny Florio was really animated in Morrison's corner and Morrison was nodding in agreement. 0:2
0:26 John Ruiz cranks a hard cross to the body of Morrison. 3:2
0:40 Morrison throws a straight right that glances off the shoulder of Ruiz but it's enough to keep him off-balance. 3:2
0:43 Ruiz lands two quick, hard uppercuts forcing Morrison to take a half step backwards. 6:2
01:00 Ruiz feels his back touch the ropes and immediately moves away. He doesn't want to be trapped there. 6:2
01:04 Both fighters are being cautious and keeping out of range. 6:2
01:07 Morrison is doing great work inside as he jars John Ruiz with an uppercut. 6:5
01:21 Ruiz misses badly. It looked like he changed his mind half way through the punch. 6:5
01:36 Morrison has been watching too much wrestling, the way He's grabbing Ruiz. 6:5
01:48 Rosato moves them apart. 6:5
02:01 John Ruiz wings a big left hand at Tommy Morrison but the latter sidesteps the punch. 6:5
02:12 Quick hands and feet can take you far in this game. Of course, having a good chin helps! 6:5
02:15 Ruiz scores with a glancing cross. 8:5
02:29 Morrison drives home a wicked hook to the midsection! 8:9
02:29 Ruiz is clutching his side! 8:9
02:45 Ruiz misses wildly with the hook. 8:9
02:47 Morrison unleashes a wild hook that just glances off the side of Ruiz's head, if that had landed flush this fight might have been over! 8:11
02:56 Ruiz doesn't have to look for Morrison this round. He is right there in front of him. 8:11
03:00 Ruiz tries to get the hook into the the ribs, but Morrison blocks it. 8:11
03:00 As the round comes to a close, both fighters continue to wing shots. That was another good round of action. 9:11

Round 3
Time Commentary Points
0:00 It's Round 3 of this scheduled 12 rounder. 0:0
0:07 Danny Florio was extremely upbeat during the break with Morrison providing some solid encouragement. 0:0
0:12 Tommy Morrison fires and misses. 0:0
0:19 Ruiz lands a vicious cross! 4:0
0:19 Morrison is reeling after that shot! 4:0
0:38 Morrison just can't find the range with that uppercut. 4:0
0:45 It's a sweet uppercut by Ruiz! He snapped Morrison's head straight back with that punch! 8:0
0:45 That blow connected solidly to the head of Morrison and he is stunned! 8:0
0:55 Morrison throws the cross and scores to the head of Ruiz. 8:2
01:08 Ruiz scores with a hook to the body but he misses when he tries to double up with it. 10:2
01:21 Morrison lands a solid uppercut! 10:7
01:21 John Ruiz's eye's are glazed over after that shot, he is definitely hurt! 10:7
01:31 Ruiz pins Morrison in the corner! 10:7
01:31 Ruiz splits Morrison's gloves with an uppercut. 12:7
01:47 Morrison throws a quick, compact uppercut that scores to the head of Ruiz. 12:10
02:00 Neither fighter is straying far from the middle of the ring. 12:10
02:04 Morrison pushes Ruiz then steps away from him. 12:10
02:13 Ruiz is receiving a lot of encouragement from his corner. If this helps win fights, he has a real good shot tonight. 12:10
02:16 Morrison backs into a neutral corner. 12:10
02:21 Ruiz cuts loose with a combination and the crowd roars, but the truth is none of those punches landed. Morrison had his elbows tucked in nicely. 12:10
02:32 You would think Tommy Morrison had a brick wall built aroud his midsection as futile as Ruiz looked trying to score there! 12:10
02:35 Morrison gives a nice head feint and then lands a hook to the head of Ruiz. 12:12
02:51 John Ruiz punishes Morrison with a hook to the ribs. 15:12
02:56 * Rosato waves his arms ending the round. We didn't hear a bell and the fighters look confused as they return to their corners. 15:12

Round 4
Time Commentary Points
0:00 Ruiz didn't sit in the corner between rounds and he comes out quickly to begin Round 4. 0:0
0:09 Morrison traps Ruiz in the corner! 0:0
0:13 Morrison is moving his head and shoulders side to side, but his feet are not going anywhere, giving Ruiz a decent target to shoot for. 0:0
0:13 Looking at their faces, you wouldn't know these two were in a fight. 0:0
0:17 Ruiz received a pep talk from Jesus Rivero before he left his corner; we'll see if it worked. 0:0
0:23 Morrison scores with a tremendous right just above the waistline! 0:4
0:23 John Ruiz was stunned by that blow! 0:4
0:37 Morrison can't find the range as he tries to work the body. 0:4
0:39 * Ruiz going way too low with his punches and Rosato has seen enough as he issues a warning. 2:4
01:00 Morrison throws a short, bristling uppercut to the chin of Ruiz 2:7
01:00 * And now it appears as if Ruiz has been cut the last punch that landed. 2:9
01:00 The cut is severe from the looks of it, a gash over his right eyebrow. 2:9
01:00 * Blood is trickling from the cut over John Ruiz's eye; it has to be impairing his vision somewhat and it's definitely bothering him if the amount of blinking he's doing is any indication. And it looks like . . . yes . . . Referee Rosato is notifying the timekeeper to stop the clock. He wants the doctor at ringside to take a look at Ruiz's facial wound. 2:9
01:00 * After some dabbing and swabbing and talking to the fighter, the doctor has concluded that the fight needn't be stopped. He's going to allow the action to continue. The referee is pointing to where he wants Ruiz to stand and motioning for Tommy Morrison to back up a little. Now Rosato is calling time-in, and this fight is going to get back underway here in Round 4. 2:9
01:16 Ruiz fires a shot, but it glances off Tommy Morrison's shoulder. 2:9
01:23 The two men are circling one another, looking for an opening. 2:9
01:31 Ruiz just misses with a huge shot as Morrison chooses the perfect time to suddenly backpedal. 2:9
01:42 Morrison connects with a violent uppercut! 2:13
01:42 Ruiz looks like he might have been hurt by that punch! 2:13
01:52 Morrison winds up and lands a nasty hook to Ruiz's body. 2:16
02:08 Circling left, Morrison looks for an opening to fire a shot at Ruiz. 2:16
02:18 Morrison wraps up Ruiz... Neither fighter will break... 2:16
02:27 Rosato separates the two... 2:16
02:39 Morrison tries to double up on the jab but neither hit the mark. 2:16
02:42 Morrison tries a hook but Ruiz blocks it and then he scores with a hook of his own! 4:16
02:55 Morrison whiffs with the jab. 4:16
03:00 The fighters are back at ring center... 4:16
03:00 Morrison just comes up short with the combination. 4:16
03:00 And another stanza comes to a close with the bell. 4:18

Round 5
Time Commentary Points
0:00 Ruiz looks to be in good shape as Round 5 gets underway. 0:0
0:06 Ruiz's cutman worked on Ruiz's wounds between rounds; however, all of the bleeding wasn't stopped, as evident by the blood still flowing down Ruiz's face from above the right eyebrow. 0:0
0:06 Ruiz retreats into the left corner. 0:0
0:11 Morrison dips as if to launch a body shot, then goes upstairs with a quick hook to the head that puts John Ruiz back on his heels! 0:4
0:11 How is John Ruiz standing after that? 0:4
0:20 Whatever Danny Florio said to him in the corner between rounds must have had some effect as Morrison has some spring in his step here in the 5th round. 0:4
0:20 The action is at ring center. 0:4
0:25 Ruiz smothers Morrison's attack with a clinch! 0:4
0:37 The Referee breaks it up... 0:4
0:45 Morrison gets off a nasty series of punches that shook Ruiz. His corner has been screaming for that. 0:7
01:15 Morrison has Ruiz blocked in! 0:7
01:20 Morrison just landed a devastating three punch combo! 0:11
01:20 Ruiz was stunned by that last flurry of punches! 0:11
01:42 Morrison is keeping away from the ropes. 0:11
01:46 Morrison looks to land a cross but misses the mark. 0:11
01:49 Ruiz lands the jab but comes up short with a second one right behind it. 2:11
02:00 Morrison has John Ruiz pinned! 2:11
02:04 Morrison lands a devastating hook! 2:15
02:04 Ruiz looks shaken! 2:15
02:16 Tommy Morrison traps Ruiz in the corner! 2:15
02:21 Tommy Morrison continues to follow Ruiz about the ring. 2:15
02:33 Ruiz just absorbed a terrifying shot to the body. 2:19
02:33 Ruiz is hurt! 2:19
02:42 Morrison slides into the corner... 2:19
02:42 The fighters are trading punches and Ruiz seems to have won that exchange. 5:21
02:51 It is a good boxing crowd tonight. They know the game and are reacting to every good punch that lands. 5:21
03:00 Morrison takes a heavy hook downstairs. 9:21
03:00 Morrison is reeling.. 9:21
03:00 The seconds tick off the clock ending Round 5. 8:23

Round 6
Time Commentary Points
0:00 The seconds hurry out of Morrison's corner as the bell sounds for Round 6. 0:0
0:06 The cut above the right eyebrow suffered by Ruiz has been closed for the time being, thanks to a great job by his cut man. 0:0
0:07 Tommy Morrison moves into a neutral corner. 0:0
0:11 Morrison holds his arms up in disgust as Ruiz holds him around his waist. 0:0
0:22 Morrison tries to get free... Here comes Rosato to break them up... 0:0
0:26 Morrison got some great advice from Danny Florio between rounds, let's see if he puts it to use here in round 6. 0:0
0:31 Ruiz doesn't connect with the uppercut. 0:0
0:38 Morrison lands a hard cross! 0:4
0:38 Morrison just delivered some big time hurt with that punch! Even the fans at ringside felt it! 0:4
0:48 Morrison moves into the right corner. 0:4
0:52 Ruiz is off target with that cross. 0:4
0:59 Morrison lands a strong cross! 0:8
0:59 Ruiz appears shaken by that punch! 0:8
0:59 It looks like Morrison has reopened Ruiz's previous wound because Ruiz is now bleeding once again. 0:8
0:59 The claret is flowing again from the gash over Ruiz's right eyebrow. 0:8
0:59 * Ruiz seems to be having some difficulty seeing. It's not that he's bleeding all that badly but the location of the cut - over the eye - makes it a bit more serious. And talk about timing, the referee has stepped in and momentarily stopped the fight. He's looking at the cut above Ruiz's eye and is now leading him toward the ringside physician. 0:8
01:04 * Referee Rosato halts this fight. He's taking Ruiz to his corner and waving for the ring physician. The doctor is looking at it... Ruiz's corner is pleading with both the referee and the doctor.* The doctor is shaking his head. The fight is over as Rosato calls for the bell! Morrison is the winner by TKO as the doctor will not let John Ruiz continue! 0:8

Fight Result

And here with the call is Johnny Addie

Ladies and Gentlemen! The winner by technical knockout at the 01:05 mark in Round 6 is...

Tommy Morrison!


Score Cards

Bobby Wells Round Total
United States 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
John Ruiz 9 9 10 9 9 46
Tommy Morrison 10 10 9 10 10 49

James Hoomaian Round Total
United States 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
John Ruiz 9 10 10 9 9 47
Tommy Morrison 10 10 9 10 10 49

George Kachulis Round Total
United States 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
John Ruiz 9 9 10 9 9 46
Tommy Morrison 10 10 9 10 10 49

Round Totals Round Total
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
John Ruiz 27 28 30 27 27 139
Tommy Morrison 30 30 27 30 30 147


Statistics
Categories John Ruiz Tommy Morrison
Knockdowns scored 0 0

Jabs / Round 2.00 5.67
Hooks / Round 2.00 5.67
Crosses / Round 3.67 8.00
Combinations / Round 3.67 4.00
Uppercuts / Round 4.67 3.17

Punches Landed / Round 16.00 26.50
Punches Missed / Round 42.17 30.00

Punching Accuracy 27.5% 46.9%

Total Number of Fouls 2 0
Low Blow 1
Holding Head and Hitting 1

Foul Penalties:
Caution 2


Cuts totals (opened/reopened/worsened) 2 / 1 / 0 0 / 0 / 0
Cuts after head butts (opened/reopened/worsened) 0 / 0 / 0 0 / 0 / 0

Cut locations breakdown:
Cut above right eyebrow 2 / 1 / 0

Bouts halted to check cut(s) 2 0

Corner work on closing cuts (trials/success):
Trickle 0 / 0 0 / 0
Minor 0 / 0 0 / 0
Bleeding 0 / 0 0 / 0
Bad 0 / 0 0 / 0
Heavy 0 / 0 0 / 0
Gushing 2 / 1 0 / 0

Strategies (demanded/followed)
Cover Up 0 / 0 0 / 0
Fight Inside 0 / 0 3 / 3
Fight Outside (Offensive) 5 / 5 0 / 0
Fight Outside (Defensive) 0 / 0 2 / 2
Go for KO 0 / 0 0 / 0
Go All Out for KO 0 / 0 0 / 0
Protect Cut 0 / 0 0 / 0
Take a Round Off 0 / 0 0 / 0


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