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Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 22 Jan 2023, 16:29
by apollo creed
A bloated-juiced up Conor would've KTFO'ed a drained Jr too. Jr should just get rid of RJJr , hire a proper trainer like Robert McCracken, a good nutritionist and then try to rematch Beefy. Or maybe retire.
Also cutting down muscle mass is very dangerous. Bivol should just be very aware of that if he wants to fight Canelo at 168.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 22 Jan 2023, 17:21
by Thomastearns
Eubank Sr was right about the weight draining concerns.
Chris Jr didn't look right at all last night.
He looked thin, he looked weak and even worse he looked disinterested.
To cap it off that new Roy Jones Jr style that he seemed to be developing looked ridiculous.
This must be the shocker of the year so far.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 22 Jan 2023, 17:44
by margaret thatcher
apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Jan 2023, 16:29
A bloated-juiced up Conor would've KTFO'ed a drained Jr too. Jr should just get rid of RJJr , hire a proper trainer like Robert McCracken, a good nutritionist and then try to rematch Beefy. Or maybe retire.
Also cutting down muscle mass is very dangerous. Bivol should just be very aware of that if he wants to fight Canelo at 168.
i was thinking you'd finally shut up about the eubank-ggg fight you've gone on about endlessly, but no, another thread about it
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 06:36
by apollo creed
Thomastearns wrote: ↑22 Jan 2023, 17:21
Eubank Sr was right about the weight draining concerns.
Chris Jr didn't look right at all last night.
He looked thin, he looked weak and even worse he looked disinterested.
To cap it off that new Roy Jones Jr style that he seemed to be developing looked ridiculous.
This must be the shocker of the year so far.
That massive muscle mass weight cutting for the fight with Conor, plus the showboating RJJ's style and that he was still compete at 160 lbs cutting muscle mass took a big toll on Eubank jr.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 06:46
by apollo creed
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Jan 2023, 17:44
apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Jan 2023, 16:29
A bloated-juiced up Conor would've KTFO'ed a drained Jr too. Jr should just get rid of RJJr , hire a proper trainer like Robert McCracken, a good nutritionist and then try to rematch Beefy. Or maybe retire.
Also cutting down muscle mass is very dangerous. Bivol should just be very aware of that if he wants to fight Canelo at 168.
i was thinking you'd finally shut up about the eubank-ggg fight you've gone on about endlessly, but no, another thread about it
“It's a dangerous fight because Benn's coming up in weight and we are not, we're going down. But Golovkin would be a better fight because we've got more to prove and more to gain than in the Benn fight.
I know Chris has the tools to beat Golovkin. I always prefer fights like Golovkin where people think we can't win, the 50-50 fights, those are the fights where you make a splash." RJJr said. Published Sat Jan 21, 2023 on B.S
Now it should be GGG vs Liam Smith
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 10:57
by Nightmare Roy
When I saw him on the scales I thought he looked like he couldn't have lost another ounce, he's know for a rock solid chin, must have affected him badly
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 12:17
by Ruthless-RKO
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 10:57
When I saw him on the scales I thought he looked like he couldn't have lost another ounce, he's know for a rock solid chin, must have affected him badly
Or the elbow to the head is what did it.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 12:18
by Nightmare Roy
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 12:17
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 10:57
When I saw him on the scales I thought he looked like he couldn't have lost another ounce, he's know for a rock solid chin, must have affected him badly
Or the elbow to the head is what did it.
Punches are harder than elbows more than likely
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 13:24
by Syntax Error
apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Jan 2023, 16:29
A bloated-juiced up Conor would've KTFO'ed a drained Jr too. Jr should just get rid of RJJr , hire a proper trainer like Robert McCracken, a good nutritionist and then try to rematch Beefy. Or maybe retire.
Also cutting down muscle mass is very dangerous. Bivol should just be very aware of that if he wants to fight Canelo at 168.
Agreed.
Roy Jones Jr is not a good advert for weight cutting; look what happened to him when he did just that?
He went from virtual invincibility for over 10 years to a a massive mortal overnight.
As for the original point, yes, GGG would have marmalised Eubank Jr back in '16; probably still does it now despite being faded.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 16:10
by apollo creed
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 10:57
When I saw him on the scales I thought he looked like he couldn't have lost another ounce, he's know for a rock solid chin, must have affected him badly
yeah, his chin was good and even Carl 80k Cobra Froch said it. They have sparred together.
Actually Jr's best fights were at 168. He should've stayed there.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 16:13
by apollo creed
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 12:18
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 12:17
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 10:57
When I saw him on the scales I thought he looked like he couldn't have lost another ounce, he's know for a rock solid chin, must have affected him badly
Or the elbow to the head is what did it.
Punches are harder than elbows more than likely
True. gloved punches can be thrown with full power and from any agle.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 16:22
by KiwiRider
I don't understand what people expect from Eubank Jr?
He is proven to be a sub British level fighter- 3 times now.
Forget the name he inherited, forget the careful matchmaking, just look at the actual names he has fought- he has lost to all of them.
Sure he won the Degale fight, but that was the ghost of Degale, not the former world champ Degale
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 16:24
by apollo creed
Syntax Error wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 13:24
apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Jan 2023, 16:29
A bloated-juiced up Conor would've KTFO'ed a drained Jr too. Jr should just get rid of RJJr , hire a proper trainer like Robert McCracken, a good nutritionist and then try to rematch Beefy. Or maybe retire.
Also cutting down muscle mass is very dangerous. Bivol should just be very aware of that if he wants to fight Canelo at 168.
Agreed.
Roy Jones Jr is not a good advert for weight cutting; look what happened to him when he did just that?
He went from virtual invincibility for over 10 years to a a massive mortal overnight.
As for the original point, yes, GGG would have marmalised Eubank Jr back in '16; probably still does it now despite being faded.
Probably they have an obsolete way of training. You can't keep cut down muscle mass after a certain age. I guess they didn't want to spend more money on a proper known trainer, a good nutritionist and a boxing strength and conditioning coach.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 16:34
by apollo creed
KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 16:22
I don't understand what people expect from Eubank Jr?
He is proven to be a sub British level fighter- 3 times now.
Forget the name he inherited, forget the careful matchmaking, just look at the actual names he has fought- he has lost to all of them.
Sure he won the Degale fight, but that was the ghost of Degale, not the former world champ Degale
Well, yes you are right. His resume speaks for itself but the thing is Jr was considered to have a strong chin and he was stopped in 4 rds by a 34 y/o british domestic level , former 154 pounder. Of course this is boxing and anything can happen.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 23 Jan 2023, 17:55
by Syntax Error
KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Jan 2023, 16:22
I don't understand what people expect from Eubank Jr?
He is proven to be a sub British level fighter- 3 times now.
Forget the name he inherited, forget the careful matchmaking, just look at the actual names he has fought- he has lost to all of them.
Sure he won the Degale fight, but that was the ghost of Degale, not the former world champ Degale
Can't say fairer than that.
Eubank has got by on his surname and his prolific social media endeavours; take one or both of those away and he would have faded into obscurity years ago.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 24 Jan 2023, 01:12
by Evander
Happened all of a sudden.
Uppercut was enough to stop the fight I guess.
Rematch based off the 1st boxer to stop Eubank Jr.
Re: Eubank Jr got Beefy'ed! Can you imagine what GGG could've done to Jr back in 2016?
Posted: 13 Jun 2023, 13:46
by Craighmfc1874
apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Jan 2023, 16:29
A bloated-juiced up Conor would've KTFO'ed a drained Jr too. Jr should just get rid of RJJr , hire a proper trainer like Robert McCracken, a good nutritionist and then try to rematch Beefy. Or maybe retire.
Also cutting down muscle mass is very dangerous. Bivol should just be very aware of that if he wants to fight Canelo at 168.