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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 05:02
by Ruthless-RKO
Current ranking:
Image πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: 15.04.2023 vs. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ Zhilei Zhang - 24(19) 1(0) 1 - (BoxRec's #26)

6. πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ Joseph Parker - 31(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡© Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Frank Sanchez - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. πŸ‡§πŸ‡¬ Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. πŸ‡­πŸ‡· Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. TBA

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There will be a new boxer entering at #15 by the end of the week.

Who you got entering?

Arslanbek Makhmudov
Daniel Dubois
Efe Ajagba
Zhilei Zhang
Ali Eren Demirezen
Jared Anderson
Other (please comment)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 05:04
by DrDuke
I voted for Jared Anderson. By the eye test he seems to be the most skilled, while he destroyed the almighty Jerry Forrest, who whooped Franklin, Zhang and Hunter.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 07:28
by joshj909
Based on record I have gone with Efe. I originally thought Makhmudov but I think Efe's wins are ultimately better. That would change if Takam beats Yoka. Others might win based on eye test or potential but they haven't backed that up with good wins yet.

Weird seeing Anderson getting votes seeing as he's arguably the worst on the list as his best and only win worth acknowledging is against Jerry Forrest who has also lost to Pulev (who just lost to Chisora), Franklin (who just lost to Whyte) and Takam (who just lost to Makhmudov). His best performances have been in draws against Hunter who we don't have ranked and against Zhang who just "lost" to Hrgovic. I don't think Forrest has a win inside the top 100.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 13:17
by margaret thatcher
ya people complained about chisora being ranked, then vote in a guy whose best win by miles is over someone who'd just lost 9-1 to chis's last victim? the talent's obviously there for jah, but don't knock other dude's resumes and make it about that if you're gonna vote him in.

tbh, efe prob deserves it most atm. the win over demi has aged fairly well. the shaw fight sucked but a win over another prospect is still decent. johnny rice win too is looking better.

mak has the takam win (another guy who beat forrest) but wasnt impressive. although like efe that johnny rice stoppage is looking nicer too, and he beat him better than efe did.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 13:24
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023, 13:17 ya people complained about chisora being ranked, then vote in a guy whose best win by miles is over someone who'd just lost 9-1 to chis's last victim? the talent's obviously there for jah, but don't knock other dude's resumes and make it about that if you're gonna vote him in.

tbh, efe prob deserves it most atm. the win over demi has aged fairly well. the shaw fight sucked but a win over another prospect is still decent. johnny rice win too is looking better.

mak has the takam win (another guy who beat forrest) but wasnt impressive. although like efe that johnny rice stoppage is looking nicer too, and he beat him better than efe did.
Who is your vote Mag?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 13:26
by margaret thatcher
efe............he would undoubtedly be in if he hadn't lost to sanchez i think. but none of the other candidates have beat anyone as good as sanchez either, so i cant hold it against him much. his resume is solid compared to the other contenders for the spot....pretty good mix with demi, shaw, and rice in there. demi is probably close to top 20 himself.

had dubois beat lerena convincgly i prob would've voted him in....instead he goes down 3x in the 1st

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 13:50
by joshj909
I'd probably rank them, based on their records as it should be:
- Ajagba
- Makhmudov
- Demirezen
- Dubois
- Anderson
- Zhang

But based on the eye test:
- Anderson
- Makhmudov
- Zhang
- Dubois
- Ajagba
- Demirezen

Some of them can clearly prove themselves to be better, they just need to go out there and do it...

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 15:28
by tiny_acres
Ajagba followed by Demirezen

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 16:04
by gregregegg
Efe on resume.

I think efe loses to most of the alternates… but he has earnt it the most I think. (For now)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 16:05
by Ruthless-RKO
I’d kill for a Mak vs. Efe fight.

As you said. Efe probably loses to most of the rest, but yeh, overall, he has a good resume.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 16:16
by joshj909
If only Boxtune was here to see this day... #Justice4Boxtune

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 16:32
by Ruthless-RKO
joshj909 wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023, 16:16 If only Boxtune was here to see this day... #Justice4Boxtune
Let’s get a petition going lol

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 06 Feb 2023, 17:52
by tiny_acres
I'd love to see Efe vs Dubois.
Dubois looks like crap lately

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 07 Feb 2023, 00:34
by Lackeos
Jermaine Franlin

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 07 Feb 2023, 02:03
by margaret thatcher
frank's 2 notable fights for me are a debatable win over forrest and a debatable loss to whyte......i thought he lost both tbh. so i wouldnt rate him top 15 yet.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 07 Feb 2023, 04:25
by DrDuke
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 02:03 frank's 2 notable fights for me are a debatable win over forrest and a debatable loss to whyte......i thought he lost both tbh. so i wouldnt rate him top 15 yet.
Yeah, I wonder how this lazy blob was brought into the mix of top fighters. Who needs him so much?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 07 Feb 2023, 15:15
by Ruthless-RKO
Votes still open.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 07 Feb 2023, 20:22
by Finkel
I voted Zhang. The manner of the fight with Hrgovic (which I think Zhang clearly won) should put him alongside Hrg regardless of result. Plus I think it is fair to say people are more excited for Joyce v Zhang than Joshua v Franklin for that very reason.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 07 Feb 2023, 21:37
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: ↑06 Feb 2023, 17:52 I'd love to see Efe vs Dubois.
Dubois looks like crap lately
I'd actually like to see Anderson vs Efe and the winner face Dubs.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 07 Feb 2023, 21:42
by oogiebe
I vote leave it open and let's see where the next 3 months take us.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 08 Feb 2023, 07:17
by joshj909
For those who voted for Anderson, what''s the reason?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 08 Feb 2023, 08:32
by cpx2
Eye test. Did really consider it though. To be honest, on reflection, I'd probably go Efe based on resume.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 08 Feb 2023, 08:46
by Ruthless-RKO
Eye test shouldn’t be the reason.

He’s with a top promoter.

they need to get him the fights and he needs to win them.

He’s more than capable.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 08 Feb 2023, 09:38
by DrDuke
joshj909 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 07:17 For those who voted for Anderson, what''s the reason?
He destroyed the almighy Jerry Forrest, who had kicked a$$es of Zhang, Franklin and Hunter.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15

Posted: 08 Feb 2023, 14:01
by CMCanavessi
cpx2 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 08:32 Efe based on resume.
What resume? :bag: