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June, 1998.

Ibeabuchi doesn't belong in the fight therefore loses by default.

The Tua win wasn't impressive to you ? Why ?

flattening bryd and beating tua make ike more proven than many fighters discussed in this section

his career ended because he was a scum human being, not because he couldnt be arsed with boxing or anything like that

Ike was good, but Holyfield was obviously better. Stopping Byrd was a good achievement, but not exceptional. Surviving and outslugging Tua was impressive too, but all that stuff, of course, can't be compared with what Holyfield achieved.

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Feb 2023, 01:28 Ike was good, but Holyfield was obviously better. Stopping Byrd was a good achievement, but not exceptional. Surviving and outslugging Tua was impressive too, but all that stuff, of course, can't be compared with what Holyfield achieved.

I strongly agreed Dr. Duke. Holyfield would outbox and counter Ike behind his jabs and combinations on the inside in the early rounds, then nailing Ike more with heavy counters from mid to later rounds to either take a decision or stopping him late.

Close decision for Holyfield due to his superior skills and more accurate punching. Ike would have his moments though and would certainly rock Evander good a few times. Holy by something like 116-113

goose 5 wrote: ↑26 Feb 2023, 20:19 The Tua win wasn't impressive to you ? Why ?

That's not my point at all. Ibeabuchi doesn't belong in the fight or any mythical fight. He threw away that right.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Feb 2023, 23:44 flattening bryd and beating tua make ike more proven than many fighters discussed in this section

his career ended because he was a scum human being, not because he couldnt be arsed with boxing or anything like that

Whether your career went nowhere because you couldn't fight or it went nowhere because you couldn't keep your sh*t together enough to keep doing it really makes no difference. His career went nowhere. He didn't get the big fights in his own time because he didn't deserve 'em.

He also never deserves credit for who we think he might beat.

If you disagree, you're entitled to it.

I'll never give Ibeabuchi any credit for much of anything, and he loses any Mythical fight you could put him in by default IMO. Including rematches with Byrd and Tua.

Tua beat him anyway I thought.

Holyfield by decision

Curtis cokes- in June, 1997- said Ike was 18 month away from being ready for Holyfield and Mike Tyson.

goose 5 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2023, 19:48 Curtis cokes- in June, 1997- said Ike was 18 month away from being ready for Holyfield and Mike Tyson.

I would of loved to see Ike vs either in March of 1999 instead of his fight with Byrd

Me too.