BoxRec

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:15 Nobody will switch whilst they CAN get a BBBoC license and most consider BIBA unlicensed boxing

Bercli wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:43

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:15 Nobody will switch whilst they CAN get a BBBoC license and most consider BIBA unlicensed boxing

So what makes BBBOC licensed and BIBA not licensed? They are both licencing bodies. Just because the board have been going longer does not mean they are better. Both have licence holders and both have a structure in place to regulate boxing events. I can't see the difference

Bercli wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:43

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:15 Nobody will switch whilst they CAN get a BBBoC license and most consider BIBA unlicensed boxing

So what makes BBBOC licensed and BIBA not licensed? They are both licencing bodies. Just because the board have been going longer does not mean they are better. Both have licence holders and both have a structure in place to regulate boxing events. I can't see the difference

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 18:20

Bercli wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:43

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:15 Nobody will switch whilst they CAN get a BBBoC license and most consider BIBA unlicensed boxing

So what makes BBBOC licensed and BIBA not licensed? They are both licencing bodies. Just because the board have been going longer does not mean they are better. Both have licence holders and both have a structure in place to regulate boxing events. I can't see the difference

No worries, you get a BIBA license.

Bercli wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 15:46

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 18:20

Bercli wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:43

So what makes BBBOC licensed and BIBA not licensed? They are both licencing bodies. Just because the board have been going longer does not mean they are better. Both have licence holders and both have a structure in place to regulate boxing events. I can't see the difference

No worries, you get a BIBA license.

Explain the difference? The board of control are not fit for purpose imo ,surely BIBA can't be any worse? Are we forgetting the sub standard refereeing and the shocking judging? The list is endless. Not long ago everyone was up in arms about the Catterall/Taylor result and what looked to me like a judge playing with his phone.

Spud wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 17:09 What about the PBA who look after the Misfits boxing shows?

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 17:56

Spud wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 17:09 What about the PBA who look after the Misfits boxing shows?

There is no credible alternative to the BBBoC currently operating in the UK.

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 17:55

Bercli wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 15:46

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 18:20

No worries, you get a BIBA license.

Explain the difference? The board of control are not fit for purpose imo ,surely BIBA can't be any worse? Are we forgetting the sub standard refereeing and the shocking judging? The list is endless. Not long ago everyone was up in arms about the Catterall/Taylor result and what looked to me like a judge playing with his phone.

Off the top of my head…
They are not recognised by the vast majority of the rest of the professional boxing world and are considered unlicensed boxing.
They don’t have any promotors with the necessary funding to put on large shows.
They have ‘licensed’ a number of people with absolutely zero medical when a gap needed filling.
They will literally sell ‘certification’ to anyone: an unlicensed boxer in the area I am in was (I assume still is) the owner of an ‘official BIBA Training Centre which was his garage with a punchbag in and some ropes nailed to the wall.
They are and have been for some time, bringing down the BBBoC with a huge court action using a lawyer that hasn’t existed for many years.

LucaDiCaro wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 12:32

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 17:55

Bercli wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 15:46

Explain the difference? The board of control are not fit for purpose imo ,surely BIBA can't be any worse? Are we forgetting the sub standard refereeing and the shocking judging? The list is endless. Not long ago everyone was up in arms about the Catterall/Taylor result and what looked to me like a judge playing with his phone.

Off the top of my head…
They are not recognised by the vast majority of the rest of the professional boxing world and are considered unlicensed boxing.
They don’t have any promotors with the necessary funding to put on large shows.
They have ‘licensed’ a number of people with absolutely zero medical when a gap needed filling.
They will literally sell ‘certification’ to anyone: an unlicensed boxer in the area I am in was (I assume still is) the owner of an ‘official BIBA Training Centre which was his garage with a punchbag in and some ropes nailed to the wall.
They are and have been for some time, bringing down the BBBoC with a huge court action using a lawyer that hasn’t existed for many years.

BIBA licensed boxer Eleanor Coulson is ranked #5 in the world at Middleweight by the World Boxing Association (WBA) https://www.wbaboxing.com/wba-boxer-profile?id=17416- she won a WBA championship on a BIBA sanctioned event, as did Lee McAllister when he won the World Boxing Organisation (WBO) Regional title before challenging for and winning the WBO Intercontinental Welterweight Championship in Accra, Ghana which elevated him to #13 in the World on WBO Rankings

In addition Lee, along with Nathan Decastro, Tasif Khan, Sandy Robb all were ranked by the International Boxing Federation (IBF)

Yes it would be nice to attract a big name promoter, and one day hopefully will

Every BIBA licensed boxer has to have full medicals and MRI so that is blatantly untrue

Cannot answer the next part except to say there is no such thing as an Official Training Centre - we have over 60 affiliated gyms and for reference there is no fee charged to gyms that want to affiliate with BIBA

A couple of years ago we jointly submitted a case to the Competition & Markets Authority (CMA) with the PBA. Just because the law firm you mention is no longer a limited company doesn't mean it no longer exists - for example Boxrec was a limited company, then it wasn't and now it is again

MasterG wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 16:56 BIBA do not have enough shows to create them. 2 shows a year isn't good enough and they have to be getting rid of the has beens such as Ellis etc etc.

There is room for competition in this country with boxing bodies and it proves so as who is interested in the Lonsdale belt anymore? Years ago it was a privilege to win that.

Alba wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 16:35

MasterG wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 16:56 BIBA do not have enough shows to create them. 2 shows a year isn't good enough and they have to be getting rid of the has beens such as Ellis etc etc.

There is room for competition in this country with boxing bodies and it proves so as who is interested in the Lonsdale belt anymore? Years ago it was a privilege to win that.

There is a real sense of Amatuer look to them.The way the BIBA seem to be the way to Promoto the shows they sanction is weird, the BBBOc dont do the same.

Also, McAllister seem's to be there big attraction. He was finished a while back, and his record is pretty poor, to use someone like that as some sort of flagship promotor really looks quite poor

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 16:53

Alba wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 16:35

MasterG wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 16:56 BIBA do not have enough shows to create them. 2 shows a year isn't good enough and they have to be getting rid of the has beens such as Ellis etc etc.

There is room for competition in this country with boxing bodies and it proves so as who is interested in the Lonsdale belt anymore? Years ago it was a privilege to win that.

There is a real sense of Amatuer look to them.The way the BIBA seem to be the way to Promoto the shows they sanction is weird, the BBBOc dont do the same.

Also, McAllister seem's to be there big attraction. He was finished a while back, and his record is pretty poor, to use someone like that as some sort of flagship promotor really looks quite poor

isn't his record 38 - 3? How is that poor?

LucaDiCaro wrote: ↑15 May 2024, 06:46

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 16:53

Alba wrote: ↑14 May 2024, 16:35

There is a real sense of Amatuer look to them.The way the BIBA seem to be the way to Promoto the shows they sanction is weird, the BBBOc dont do the same.

Also, McAllister seem's to be there big attraction. He was finished a while back, and his record is pretty poor, to use someone like that as some sort of flagship promotor really looks quite poor

isn't his record 38 - 3? How is that poor?

Yeah but what can you say - Ill informed haters and they think that kind of record is poor

Lee McAllister’s record is Actually 49-3-0 (boxrec don’t list his BIBA fights) and his most recent championship win was the WBO Intercontinental Welterweight championship

MasterG wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 16:56 BIBA do not have enough shows to create them. 2 shows a year isn't good enough and they have to be getting rid of the has beens such as Ellis etc etc.

There is room for competition in this country with boxing bodies and it proves so as who is interested in the Lonsdale belt anymore? Years ago it was a privilege to win that.

polecateddy wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 14:00

Bercli wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:43

leejonesjnr wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 13:15 Nobody will switch whilst they CAN get a BBBoC license and most consider BIBA unlicensed boxing

So what makes BBBOC licensed and BIBA not licensed? They are both licencing bodies. Just because the board have been going longer does not mean they are better. Both have licence holders and both have a structure in place to regulate boxing events. I can't see the difference

Does BIBA support ANY drug ban?

LucaDiCaro wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 06:06

MasterG wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 16:56 BIBA do not have enough shows to create them. 2 shows a year isn't good enough and they have to be getting rid of the has beens such as Ellis etc etc.

There is room for competition in this country with boxing bodies and it proves so as who is interested in the Lonsdale belt anymore? Years ago it was a privilege to win that.

I don't know where you get your ridiculous figure of two shows a year from, Do proper research - all you need to do is go on the BIBA website www.boxbiba.com - and go to schedule/results as all events are on there and there has never been a year when BIBA only sanctioned two events - even during lockdown we sanctioned a number of behind closed doors events that were broadcast on FITE

MasterG wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 09:40

LucaDiCaro wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 06:06

MasterG wrote: ↑05 Apr 2023, 16:56 BIBA do not have enough shows to create them. 2 shows a year isn't good enough and they have to be getting rid of the has beens such as Ellis etc etc.

There is room for competition in this country with boxing bodies and it proves so as who is interested in the Lonsdale belt anymore? Years ago it was a privilege to win that.

I don't know where you get your ridiculous figure of two shows a year from, Do proper research - all you need to do is go on the BIBA website www.boxbiba.com - and go to schedule/results as all events are on there and there has never been a year when BIBA only sanctioned two events - even during lockdown we sanctioned a number of behind closed doors events that were broadcast on FITE

Sorry Luca. That comment I made was over a year ago. I would have looked on the site then to see up coming events at that time, and there would have only been 2 down at that time in April 2023.

LucaDiCaro wrote: ↑16 May 2024, 06:09

polecateddy wrote: ↑04 Apr 2023, 14:00

Does BIBA support ANY drug ban?