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Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 13 Apr 2023, 11:19
by Perkin Warbeck
Foster is notorious for quick stoppages favoring the promoter's fighter.


Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 13 Apr 2023, 12:19
by Thomastearns
I don't think Joyce will need him on Saturday but it is a pity that Foster is back in so quick after his controversial stoppage of Michael Coffie.

Even the winner Fabio Wardley thought it was a premature stoppage.

It just seems like the promoter is trying to buy a little extra insurance. If the home fighter's in trouble the ref can give him a little extra time but if its the other way around then a safety stoppage is called for.

Wilder vs Ortiz 1 was a classic case when Wilder got some unexplained extra recovery time at the start of Rd8.

This should be a win for Joyce but there's no doubt that the fast handed Zhang will be dangerous for the first half of the fight.

Zhang almost totally derailed Hrgovic's carefully built up career in their encounter before running out of gas.


https://www.BS.com/fabio-wardl ... rd--173543

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 13 Apr 2023, 14:52
by Coco
Terrible news

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 13 Apr 2023, 16:04
by adislav123
anticipatory obedience. acting as impartial with only the fighter's 'health' in mind.

that's how you make sure they know you're the spineless yes-man they need for the big stunts. frickin corruption everywhere.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 13 Apr 2023, 20:11
by goose 5
This fight worries me -Zhang could be hurt bad so if the ref gives him a quick hook I'm not complaining at all.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 13 Apr 2023, 22:56
by HomicideHenry
I think when you have controversial referees like this they should be forced to go back to refereeing amateur contests so that they finally get the point of how to correctly stop matches. There needs to be a penalty and re-education program for judges and referees. And if it continues after such re-education then they should be denied judging and refereeing opportunities.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 14 Apr 2023, 18:19
by KiwiRider
HomicideHenry wrote: 13 Apr 2023, 22:56 I think when you have controversial referees like this they should be forced to go back to refereeing amateur contests so that they finally get the point of how to correctly stop matches. There needs to be a penalty and re-education program for judges and referees. And if it continues after such re-education then they should be denied judging and refereeing opportunities.
Hang on Henry, they stop Am fights a lot sooner than pro ones, that is one of the point of differences. :maybe:
They stop an Am fight after a heavy shot even if the guy gets up and does a backflip.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 18:06
by Evander
In the end Zhang didn't need anyone's help.
Joyce's eye was messed up, that derailed Joyce's surge up the Heavyweight division.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 18:09
by Ruthless-RKO
Zhang said he didn’t want it to go to the cards.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 18:11
by Thomastearns
Zhang sure hits hard.

Never seen anyone do that to Joyce.

Salas and co need to ask themselves some serious questions about their tactics against a dangerous punching southpaw.

Well done Zhang.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 18:19
by Mexi-Box
Wow, congrats to Zhang. I missed it, but I stand my assessment that him and Hrgovic looked like two top 5 guys. Zhang hits very hard if he stopped Joyce. Going to watch later. :box:

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 18:19
by SportsRatings
After following Zhang so long it's great to see him finally reach his top ten potential. His inactivity starting 5? years ago was frustrating, and he wasn't getting any younger.

I can't believe Joyce was a -1100 favorite. Logic said Joyce should win, but I thought it's a 3-1 fight not 10-1.

Just goes to show, you can have a great chin in boxing but no one has a "great eye"

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 18:34
by KiwiRider
Evander wrote: 15 Apr 2023, 18:06 In the end Zhang didn't need anyone's help.
Joyce's eye was messed up, that derailed Joyce's surge up the Heavyweight division.
Yep, it was a ticking time out. Every straight left hand it swelled a bit more.
Fozzie was reluctant though :lol:

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 18:54
by Mexi-Box
Never seen Joyce get buckled from being punched. Didn't think it was possible. Zhang really does hit really, really hard. Joyce has a granite chin to have lasted. Hrgovic looked like he saw a ghost throughout their fight. Zhang should be undefeated btw. Close but clear imo he beat Hrgovic.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 19:32
by margaret thatcher
for 3-4 rounds............zhang is a top 2-3 puncher in the division. look how shocked hrg and forrest also were. his problem is he gasses badly, but he managed to stop juggy before that came into play

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 19:36
by marvelous marv
I agree that Zhang beat Hrgovic.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 19:59
by watsupdoc87
Zhang should have an undefeated record imo :bag:

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 15 Apr 2023, 23:29
by victor-romeo
I thought Hrgovic beat zhang

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 01:17
by DrDuke
watsupdoc87 wrote: 15 Apr 2023, 19:59 Zhang should have an undefeated record imo :bag:
No, the almighty Jerry schooled him.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 15:03
by KiwiRider
DrDuke wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 01:17
watsupdoc87 wrote: 15 Apr 2023, 19:59 Zhang should have an undefeated record imo :bag:
No, the almighty Jerry schooled him.
I thought the draw was fair :maybe:
It's weird that Zhang could have scored a win there, and a clear one against Hrg if he hadn't run out of gas so early. Same thing last night against Joyce, out of gas after 4, and if it weren't for the eye, Joyce looked to be racking up the later rounds for another close loss for Zhang.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 15:27
by joshj909
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 15:03
DrDuke wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 01:17
watsupdoc87 wrote: 15 Apr 2023, 19:59 Zhang should have an undefeated record imo :bag:
No, the almighty Jerry schooled him.
I thought the draw was fair :maybe:
It's weird that Zhang could have scored a win there, and a clear one against Hrg if he hadn't run out of gas so early. Same thing last night against Joyce, out of gas after 4, and if it weren't for the eye, Joyce looked to be racking up the later rounds for another close loss for Zhang.
I agree with all of that except that last part. He looked like he was conserving energy a bit after being unable to finish Joyce in round 2, because he knows he would gas, but he was landing hard left hands for fun in the final few rounds.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 15:43
by KiwiRider
joshj909 wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 15:27
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 15:03
DrDuke wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 01:17

No, the almighty Jerry schooled him.
I thought the draw was fair :maybe:
It's weird that Zhang could have scored a win there, and a clear one against Hrg if he hadn't run out of gas so early. Same thing last night against Joyce, out of gas after 4, and if it weren't for the eye, Joyce looked to be racking up the later rounds for another close loss for Zhang.
I agree with all of that except that last part. He looked like he was conserving energy a bit after being unable to finish Joyce in round 2, because he knows he would gas, but he was landing hard left hands for fun in the final few rounds.
You might be right, but his work rate, such as it was, tailed off a lot after the 4 th. And there was a burst in the 6th from Zhang, he knew he could get it stopped with the eye the way it was. So no need for him to conserve energy.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 16:08
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 15:03
DrDuke wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 01:17
watsupdoc87 wrote: 15 Apr 2023, 19:59 Zhang should have an undefeated record imo :bag:
No, the almighty Jerry schooled him.
I thought the draw was fair :maybe:
It's weird that Zhang could have scored a win there, and a clear one against Hrg if he hadn't run out of gas so early. Same thing last night against Joyce, out of gas after 4, and if it weren't for the eye, Joyce looked to be racking up the later rounds for another close loss for Zhang.
I believe Xhang was very ill when he fought Forrest.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 16:14
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 16:08
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 15:03
DrDuke wrote: 16 Apr 2023, 01:17

No, the almighty Jerry schooled him.
I thought the draw was fair :maybe:
It's weird that Zhang could have scored a win there, and a clear one against Hrg if he hadn't run out of gas so early. Same thing last night against Joyce, out of gas after 4, and if it weren't for the eye, Joyce looked to be racking up the later rounds for another close loss for Zhang.
I believe Xhang was very ill when he fought Forrest.
Righto.
I didn't know about that. He was really monstering Jerry early.

Re: Howard Foster is working the Zhang-Joyce fight

Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 17:23
by fanman
Mexi-Box wrote: 15 Apr 2023, 18:19 Wow, congrats to Zhang. I missed it, but I stand my assessment that him and Hrgovic looked like two top 5 guys. Zhang hits very hard if he stopped Joyce. Going to watch later. :box:
That Zhang v Hrgovic match was certainly a very brutal and close fight. At the time I thought they were both a bit off championship class, but maybe in retrospect they were just cancelling each other out.
Great performance by Zhang.
Joyce was slow as usual, but this time got hurt early and couldn't impose his size on the opponent.