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This is my list of the 25 top greatest Latin fighters pound per pound of all-time. I know that there's going to be a lot of people not accepting some guys in the list and some of them were omitted.

My top 25 Greatest Latin Fighters:
1. Roberto Duran (Panama)
2. Carlos Monzon (Argentina)
3. Julio Cesar Chavez (Mexico)
4. Alexis Arguello (Nicaragua)
5. Eder Jofre (Brazil)
6. Salvador Sanchez (Mexico)
7. Panama Al Brown (Panama)
8. Kid Gavilan (Cuba)
9. Ruben Olivares (Mexico)
10. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico)
11. Kid Chocolate (Cuba)
12. Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles (Cuba)
13. Pascual Perez (Argentina)
14. Wilfredo Gomez (Puerto Rico)
15. Carlos Ortiz (Puerto Rico)
16. Wilfred Benitez (Puerto Rico)
17. Carlos Zarate (Mexico)
18. Miguel Canto (Mexico)
19. Marco Antonio Barrera (Mexico)
20. Manuel Ortiz (USA)
21. Ricardo "Finito" Lopez (Mexico)
22. Luis Manuel Rodriguez (Cuba)
23. Erik "El Terrible" Morales (Mexico)
24. Eusebio Pedroza (Panama)
25. Vicente Saldivar (Mexico)

Honorary mentions:
Baby Arizmendi (Mexico)
Oscar De La Hoya (USA)
Felix "Tito" Trinidad (Puerto Rico)
Antonio Cervantes (Colombia)
Nicolino Locche (Argentina)
Chocolatito Gonzalez (Nicaragua)
Jorge "El Travieso" Arce (Mexico)
Ismael Laguna (Panama)
Bobby Chacon (USA)
Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (Mexico)
Sugar Ramos (Cuba)

Great list, elmer.

Ezzard wrote: ↑13 May 2023, 11:35 Great list, elmer.

Thanks, Ezzard!

There’s a few guys you gave honorable mentions who I’d put in the top 25 or even 10 but really good list. Really hard to fit everybody in when there’s so much talent to pick from lol.

Some honorable mentions I’d add:
Orlando Canizales(USA)
José Luis Castillo(Mexico)
Acelino Freitas(Brazil)
Sergio Martínez(Argentina)
Israel Vásquez(Mexico)
Rafael Márquez(Mexico)
Antonio Esparragoza(Venezuela)

I’d have Chocolatito around 15 and Saldivar around 20 and drop Rodríguez (great fighter, maybe just below Cervantes). But really good list

Really good list ! Gavilan #1 in my book followed by Carlos Ortiz.

goose 5 wrote: ↑18 May 2023, 19:43 Really good list ! Gavilan #1 in my book followed by Carlos Ortiz.

The great Kid Gavilan of Cuba is one of my favorite fighters. Those are Two great fighters that you have mentioned right there.

I don't have any major problems with the list either. Of course, there are some close calls that we quibble about, but nothing major, unless we are all somehow overlooking someone.

I'm certainly no expert on all these names but perhaps Canelo and ODLH should be on the original list. Great list!

Tony1244 wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 12:31 I'm certainly no expert on all these names but perhaps Canelo and ODLH should be on the original list. Great list!

I heard you, but with all respect, I don't think that those two were good enough to make the list. That's my humble opinion.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 18:37

Tony1244 wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 12:31 I'm certainly no expert on all these names but perhaps Canelo and ODLH should be on the original list. Great list!

I heard you, but with all respect, I don't think that those two were good enough to make the list. That's my humble opinion.

Not even Canelo?

Tony1244 wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 18:46

elmersalsa wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 18:37

Tony1244 wrote: ↑20 May 2023, 12:31 I'm certainly no expert on all these names but perhaps Canelo and ODLH should be on the original list. Great list!

I heard you, but with all respect, I don't think that those two were good enough to make the list. That's my humble opinion.

Not even Canelo?

He is good, but compared to the guys on this list in history and skill, I think he comes short.

Some guys in honorary mentions that were better than Canelo in my view:
Baby Arizmendi (Mexico)
Antonio Cervantes (Colombia)
Chocolatito Gonzalez (Nicaragua)
Nicolino Locche (Argentina)
Ismael Laguna (Panama)
Sixto Escobar (Puerto Rico)
Hector "Macho" Camacho (Puerto Rico)

Here's my rough ranking:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Jose Napoles
5. Carlos Ortiz
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Julio Cesar Chavez
8. Kid Gavilan
9. Luis Rodriguez
10. Ruben Olivares
11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Felix Trinidad
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Juan Manuel Marquez
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Vicente Saldivar
18. Manuel Ortiz
19. Kid Chocolate
20. Panama Al Brown
21. Marco Antonio Barrera
22. Erik Morales
23. Oscar De La Hoya
24. Miguel Canto
25. Ricardo Lopez

Honorable mentions: Pascual Perez, Niccolino Locche, Roman Gonzalez, Antonio Cervantes

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 11:22 Here's my rough ranking:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Jose Napoles
5. Carlos Ortiz
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Julio Cesar Chavez
8. Kid Gavilan
9. Luis Rodriguez
10. Ruben Olivares
11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Felix Trinidad
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Juan Manuel Marquez
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Vicente Saldivar
18. Manuel Ortiz
19. Kid Chocolate
20. Panama Al Brown
21. Marco Antonio Barrera
22. Erik Morales
23. Oscar De La Hoya
24. Miguel Canto
25. Ricardo Lopez

Honorable mentions: Pascual Perez, Niccolino Locche, Roman Gonzalez, Antonio Cervantes

Hey buddy what's wrong with you?.Eder Jofre #1.He never said "No Mas" in the ring.

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 16:05

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 11:22 Here's my rough ranking:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Jose Napoles
5. Carlos Ortiz
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Julio Cesar Chavez
8. Kid Gavilan
9. Luis Rodriguez
10. Ruben Olivares
11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Felix Trinidad
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Juan Manuel Marquez
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Vicente Saldivar
18. Manuel Ortiz
19. Kid Chocolate
20. Panama Al Brown
21. Marco Antonio Barrera
22. Erik Morales
23. Oscar De La Hoya
24. Miguel Canto
25. Ricardo Lopez

Honorable mentions: Pascual Perez, Niccolino Locche, Roman Gonzalez, Antonio Cervantes

Hey buddy what's wrong with you?.Eder Jofre #1.He never said "No Mas" in the ring.

C'mon bro! Why are you dissing my main man!

Great shout for the great Eder Jofre, though.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 22:34

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 16:05

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 11:22 Here's my rough ranking:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Jose Napoles
5. Carlos Ortiz
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Julio Cesar Chavez
8. Kid Gavilan
9. Luis Rodriguez
10. Ruben Olivares
11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Felix Trinidad
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Juan Manuel Marquez
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Vicente Saldivar
18. Manuel Ortiz
19. Kid Chocolate
20. Panama Al Brown
21. Marco Antonio Barrera
22. Erik Morales
23. Oscar De La Hoya
24. Miguel Canto
25. Ricardo Lopez

Honorable mentions: Pascual Perez, Niccolino Locche, Roman Gonzalez, Antonio Cervantes

Hey buddy what's wrong with you?.Eder Jofre #1.He never said "No Mas" in the ring.

C'mon bro! Why are you dissing my main man!

Great shout for the great Eder Jofre, though.

Just because I don't think Duran should be at the top is not dissing.Here's a guy who lost to Kirkland Laing,twice to Vinny Pazienza,got blown up by Tommy Hearns,gave it the famous "No Mas and quit,and looked kike a dog against Leonard in fight 3 Don't see anything like that in Jofre's record. You got a man crush on Roberto and it skews your thinking.

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 03:15

elmersalsa wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 22:34

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 16:05

Hey buddy what's wrong with you?.Eder Jofre #1.He never said "No Mas" in the ring.

C'mon bro! Why are you dissing my main man!

Great shout for the great Eder Jofre, though.

Just because I don't think Duran should be at the top is not dissing.Here's a guy who lost to Kirkland Laing,twice to Vinny Pazienza,got blown up by Tommy Hearns,gave it the famous "No Mas and quit,and looked kike a dog against Leonard in fight 3 Don't see anything like that in Jofre's record. You got a man crush on Roberto and it skews your thinking.

Jofre never went up over 15 pounds to fight anybody. Great boxer in his time, though. That's why he is there in the top 5.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 08:39

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 03:15

elmersalsa wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 22:34

C'mon bro! Why are you dissing my main man!

Great shout for the great Eder Jofre, though.

Just because I don't think Duran should be at the top is not dissing.Here's a guy who lost to Kirkland Laing,twice to Vinny Pazienza,got blown up by Tommy Hearns,gave it the famous "No Mas and quit,and looked kike a dog against Leonard in fight 3 Don't see anything like that in Jofre's record. You got a man crush on Roberto and it skews your thinking.

Jofre never went up over 15 pounds to fight anybody. Great boxer in his time, though. That's why he is there in the top 5.

There is no way I'm going to get in a pissing contest with you.Go ahead and get the last word in.I'm through with this.

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 09:24

elmersalsa wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 08:39

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 03:15

Just because I don't think Duran should be at the top is not dissing.Here's a guy who lost to Kirkland Laing,twice to Vinny Pazienza,got blown up by Tommy Hearns,gave it the famous "No Mas and quit,and looked kike a dog against Leonard in fight 3 Don't see anything like that in Jofre's record. You got a man crush on Roberto and it skews your thinking.

Jofre never went up over 15 pounds to fight anybody. Great boxer in his time, though. That's why he is there in the top 5.

There is no way I'm going to get in a pissing contest with you.Go ahead and get the last word in.I'm through with this.

I am not arguing with you. I never was, my brother. Have a great day!

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 16:05

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 11:22 Here's my rough ranking:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Jose Napoles
5. Carlos Ortiz
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Julio Cesar Chavez
8. Kid Gavilan
9. Luis Rodriguez
10. Ruben Olivares
11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Felix Trinidad
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Juan Manuel Marquez
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Vicente Saldivar
18. Manuel Ortiz
19. Kid Chocolate
20. Panama Al Brown
21. Marco Antonio Barrera
22. Erik Morales
23. Oscar De La Hoya
24. Miguel Canto
25. Ricardo Lopez

Honorable mentions: Pascual Perez, Niccolino Locche, Roman Gonzalez, Antonio Cervantes

Hey buddy what's wrong with you?.Eder Jofre #1.He never said "No Mas" in the ring.

Hey Roger, I can see an argument for either guy. I think Duran had more bad moments, but I do think he has one or two more "wow" moments, like the Leonard win. I regard both among the best dozen or so fighters of all-time.

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 11:52

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 16:05

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 11:22 Here's my rough ranking:

1. Roberto Duran
2. Eder Jofre
3. Carlos Monzon
4. Jose Napoles
5. Carlos Ortiz
6. Alexis Arguello
7. Julio Cesar Chavez
8. Kid Gavilan
9. Luis Rodriguez
10. Ruben Olivares
11. Salvador Sanchez
12. Felix Trinidad
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Wilfred Benitez
15. Juan Manuel Marquez
16. Carlos Zarate
17. Vicente Saldivar
18. Manuel Ortiz
19. Kid Chocolate
20. Panama Al Brown
21. Marco Antonio Barrera
22. Erik Morales
23. Oscar De La Hoya
24. Miguel Canto
25. Ricardo Lopez

Honorable mentions: Pascual Perez, Niccolino Locche, Roman Gonzalez, Antonio Cervantes

Hey buddy what's wrong with you?.Eder Jofre #1.He never said "No Mas" in the ring.

Hey Roger, I can see an argument for either guy. I think Duran had more bad moments, but I do think he has one or two more "wow" moments, like the Leonard win. I regard both among the best dozen or so fighters of all-time.

Most of Duran's "bad moments" were when he was fighting past his prime in a much higher weight class (no mas is an exception). Duran was a prime lightweight who got hammered by Hearns and lost to Lang, for instance, when he was in his 30s fighting at 154. He won a belt at 160 in his late 30s. His losses to Pazienza were when he was in his 40s and fighting at 168, or 33 lbs above his prime weight. A prime Duran would have killed Pazienza at lightweight. It would be like Jofre fighting at welterweight and complaining about him getting beat

I have a bigger issue with you not including Gonzalez in the top 20. Same with Perez. Both top 20 minimum. Gonzalez won titles at four weights and was a far more complete fighter in the light weights than Canto or Lopez. He would have beaten both, probably stopping Canto on cuts. So would have Perez

giacomino wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 16:29

chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑23 May 2023, 11:52

dagosd2000 wrote: ↑22 May 2023, 16:05

Hey buddy what's wrong with you?.Eder Jofre #1.He never said "No Mas" in the ring.

Hey Roger, I can see an argument for either guy. I think Duran had more bad moments, but I do think he has one or two more "wow" moments, like the Leonard win. I regard both among the best dozen or so fighters of all-time.

Most of Duran's "bad moments" were when he was fighting past his prime in a much higher weight class (no mas is an exception). Duran was a prime lightweight who got hammered by Hearns and lost to Lang, for instance, when he was in his 30s fighting at 154. He won a belt at 160 in his late 30s. His losses to Pazienza were when he was in his 40s and fighting at 168, or 33 lbs above his prime weight. A prime Duran would have killed Pazienza at lightweight. It would be like Jofre fighting at welterweight and complaining about him getting beat

I have a bigger issue with you not including Gonzalez in the top 20. Same with Perez. Both top 20 minimum. Gonzalez won titles at four weights and was a far more complete fighter in the light weights than Canto or Lopez. He would have beaten both, probably stopping Canto on cuts. So would have Perez

I might put Chocolatito higher but I think because he's still active, I have not truly measured him against the retired guys yet. Now that I think about it, yeah, I would probably give him the nod over those two.

Duran's losses weren't my comment. I don't factor in a lot of those fights. Laing, Hearns, Leonard II a little. Leonard II a lot actually. But it doesn't offset his accomplishments enough for me to bump him from the first place spot.