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Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 11:57
by Nile4000
15,175, who wins?

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 12:18
by goose 5
SRR-points.

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 14:30
by Joson
I'll bet Yaqui edges SRR on points. Very close, but Yaqui wins.

It looks like SRR fought only one legitimate, fully-sized light-heavyweight in his career. That of course was Joey Maxim. Do you guys think Maxim was better than Yaqui Lopez? I don't.

My point is that SRR would be facing an entirely different challenge in Lopez. Think about it: Yaqui could move with speed and grace, jab, box the ears off almost anyone, and trade punches like a permanently exploding hand-grenade. He could bang some too.

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 16:53
by tiny_acres
Lightheavyweight is a bridge too far for Robinson

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 18:00
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: 20 May 2023, 16:53 Lightheavyweight is a bridge too far for Robinson
Depends on who he fights and what the temperature is.

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 18:17
by Joson
oogiebe wrote: 20 May 2023, 18:00
tiny_acres wrote: 20 May 2023, 16:53 Lightheavyweight is a bridge too far for Robinson
Depends on who he fights and what the temperature is.
The temperature was always 140 F when Lopez fought.

Sugar gets melted.

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 18:41
by elmersalsa
The weight class would be too much for the great Sugar Ray Robinson. Alvaro "Yaqui" Lopez by decision. It could be the first time in Robinson's career to be really knocked out for a ten count. Yaqui had some decent light-heavyweight punching power.

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 18:52
by Joson
elmersalsa wrote: 20 May 2023, 18:41 The weight class would be too much for the great Sugar Ray Robinson. Alvaro "Yaqui" Lopez by decision. It could be the first time in Robinson's career to be really knocked out for a ten count. Yaqui had some decent light-heavyweight punching power.
Yaqui didn't have big, one punch KO power. However, any single power shot from Yaqui could daze or hurt a foe. From there, Yaqui's follow-up combinations would secure the knockout.

In this sense, Yaqui's power was kind of like Monzon's or Ali's. That means one good punch to hurt the guy, then another eight, ten, or 15 to finish him off.

Yeah, I agree with your claim that Yaqui might have a shot at KO'ing Robinson.

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 19:04
by elmersalsa
1173348 wrote: 20 May 2023, 18:52
elmersalsa wrote: 20 May 2023, 18:41 The weight class would be too much for the great Sugar Ray Robinson. Alvaro "Yaqui" Lopez by decision. It could be the first time in Robinson's career to be really knocked out for a ten count. Yaqui had some decent light-heavyweight punching power.
Yaqui didn't have big, one punch KO power. However, any single power shot from Yaqui could daze or hurt a foe. From there, Yaqui's follow-up combinations would secure the knockout.

In this sense, Yaqui's power was kind of like Monzon's or Ali's. That means one good punch to hurt the guy, then another eight, ten, or 15 to finish him off.

Yeah, I agree with your claim that Yaqui might have a shot at KO'ing Robinson.
Yes, you're correct. He had like Carlos Monzon or Muhammad Ali kind of power but he wasn't a devastating puncher.

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 20 May 2023, 19:29
by oogiebe
Robinson lost his LHW shot from heat exhaustion. He was easily up on all scorecards.

Lopez wouldn't stand a chance.

Re: Yaqui Lopez vs Sugar Ray Robinson

Posted: 21 May 2023, 15:54
by gilgamesh
While I think Yaqui would give Sugar Ray absolutely everything he could handle, I think Ray at his best could outbox Lopez.

I could certainly see Lopez stopping Ray as many of you do, but I think Robinson had the goods to beat a guy like Lopez. That being said, this is probably about the best level of guy he could defeat as a Light Heavyweight, and it would take everything he had to do it.