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Often the ref can influence the result, either by stopping one fighter from doing their thing, breaking the action too much, stopping too quick or favouring one fighter over the other. Name some examples where the ref spoilt a fight.

Chavez-Taylor

Jaywheel wrote: ↑01 Jun 2023, 10:06 Chavez-Taylor

Yes definitely that one.

Tony Weeks in Kovalev vs Ward 2 giving Ward the TKO win off of what should've been at the very least a point deduction.

That's a good one.

Marlon B Wright in Bute-Andrade 1.
Corrales-Castillo 1 was bullchit.

Hatton - Money Mayweather...

Juan Martín Coggi vs. Eder González I

Short of punching González himself Isidro Rodriguez couldn't have done more to secure Coggi the win.

hhaehre wrote: ↑01 Jun 2023, 15:09 Juan Martín Coggi vs. Eder González I

Short of punching González himself Isidro Rodriguez couldn't have done more to secure Coggi the win.

That was well dodgy. Reid vs Ottke was one I always think of

The referee of the Gerald McClellan vs Nigel Benn title fight was terrible. Very terrible!

Did you think Benn was the beneficiary of a slow count in round 1 ?

gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Jun 2023, 12:32

Jaywheel wrote: ↑01 Jun 2023, 10:06 Chavez-Taylor

Yes definitely that one.

Tony Weeks in Kovalev vs Ward 2 giving Ward the TKO win off of what should've been at the very least a point deduction.

A 5 minute break And a point deduction.

Off the top of my head:

Mares Vs. Agbeko 1
Sven Ottke Vs. Robin Reid
Salido Vs. Lomachenko
Hatton Vs. Luzcano
Bute Vs. Andrade 1
Timothy Bradley Vs. Jessie Vargas

Mando Ramos v Pedro Carrasco I
Jose Napoles v Armando Muniz I
Vito Antuofermo v Alan Minter I
Lou Savarese v Lance Whitaker
Howard Winstone v Mitsunori Seki
Mark Kaylor v Dwight Walker

elmersalsa wrote: ↑01 Jun 2023, 17:06 The referee of the Gerald McClellan vs Nigel Benn title fight was terrible. Very terrible!

In what way, the first round knockdown you mean on in general?

Bradley-Prov
Froch-Groves I

I'm gonna say Pac vs Marquez too.

I think a great deal of referees would've stopped the fight on that 3rd knockdown. Thank God it didn't happen that way.

goose 5 wrote: ↑01 Jun 2023, 19:29 Did you think Benn was the beneficiary of a slow count in round 1 ?

Definitely! He was out. The French referee helped Nigel Benn to recuperate by not allowing Gerald McClellan to continue and finish him off. He held McClellan for at least 20 seconds. Maybe more.

Plus, he let Benn hit McClellan with those rabbit punches, man! C'mon man! The referee didn't even give Benn a warning. Bad refereeing in my view.

I guess that he was scared of the English crowd. He didn't want the same thing that happened 15 years later with Marvelous when Marvelous kicked Alan Minter's behind.

Controversial wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 07:06

elmersalsa wrote: ↑01 Jun 2023, 17:06 The referee of the Gerald McClellan vs Nigel Benn title fight was terrible. Very terrible!

In what way, the first round knockdown you mean on in general?

The first knockdown and the rabbit punches. That referee didn't refereed another big world title fight ever again. I could be corrected.

If the referee ain't Frank Cappucino does Gatti vs Ward 1 get stopped in the 9th round?

That moment when Ward is battering him, and Lampley was screaming "Stop it Frank, You can stop it anytime!" I think a lot of referees definitely would've at that moment. Justifiably.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 12:24

Controversial wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 07:06

elmersalsa wrote: ↑01 Jun 2023, 17:06 The referee of the Gerald McClellan vs Nigel Benn title fight was terrible. Very terrible!

In what way, the first round knockdown you mean on in general?

That referee didn't refereed another big world title fight ever again. I could be corrected.

Yeah he did, he was the ref in the Holmes v McCracken WBC MW title fight a few years later,‘possibly others as well

Jack Sharkey in the first Archie Moore vrs Yvonn Durelle fight.(IMOP)

Fury Wilder I

Jersey Joe Walcott botched Ali-Liston 2.

Good couple of John Ruiz fights where he should be DQ'd or at least have some decent points deducted.

Jerry Martin-Mathew Saad Muhammad. Looked like Martin was on the way to an upset win. Then out of almost nowhere, the fight was stopped. Though when they showed the judges' scorecards, it showed that Martin would have been screwed by the judges anyway.

Hamed should have disqualified after body slamming Soto.

Benny Paret probably wouldn't have been killed against Emile Griffith if the referee would have stopped the fight sooner like he should have.

gregor wrote: ↑03 Jun 2023, 16:13 Good couple of John Ruiz fights where he should be DQ'd or at least have some decent points deducted.

A while back I was watching John Ruiz Vs. Fres Oquendo and the last round was a solid 1-2 minutes of Ruiz hugging Fres before suddenly landing a big shot out of nowhere that stunned him and got the tko.