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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 03:32
by Ruthless-RKO
Current ranking:
Image πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: 28.10.2023 vs. πŸ‡«πŸ‡· Francis Ngannou - 17(12) 3 0* - (Unranked, Inactive)

2. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: 26.08.2023 vs. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Daniel Dubois - 19(18) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #6)

3. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 25(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 12.08.2023 vs. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - (#9)

4. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

6. πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - (#5)

8. πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ Joseph Parker - 32(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: 12.08.2023 vs. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 25(22) 3(1) 0 - (#3)

10. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡© Martin Bakole - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Frank Sanchez - 22(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. πŸ‡­πŸ‡· Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: 12.08.2023 vs. πŸ‡¦πŸ‡Ί Demsey McKean - 22(14) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #54)

14. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Jared Anderson - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: 28.08.2023 vs. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Andrii Rudenko - 35(21) 6(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #159)

15. VACANT

* MMA record
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Who would you like to see enter at #15?

πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί Arslanbek Makhmudov - 17(16) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

πŸ‡³πŸ‡¬ Efe Ajagba - 17(13) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 07:02
by gregregegg
You have picked the right 2 guys to vote for so well that i honestly dont care which one is picked... so nice job on that....

but...

"next fight: TBA" for fury seems more fitting seeing as its not a pro bout by the sounds..... but if you are going to include fury vs nganu there then 0-0-0 for nganu makes sense...

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 07:36
by Ruthless-RKO
gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 07:02 "next fight: TBA" for fury seems more fitting seeing as its not a pro bout by the sounds..... but if you are going to include fury vs nganu there then 0-0-0 for nganu makes sense...
I know. I did TBA before.. but then I got bored.. included his MMA record etc.. :lol:

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 10:55
by CMCanavessi
I have to go with Mak. His win over Takam is better than any win that Efe has.

Also, the only time Efe stepped up in quality, he lost to Frank. Mak is still a big question mark though.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 14:48
by Ruthless-RKO
Filip Hrgovic vs. Demsey McKean cofirmed.

Finally the HW division is waking up.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 15:10
by joshj909
Both should be in but Efe should be higher so he's in for me.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 15:25
by gregregegg
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 14:48 Filip Hrgovic vs. Demsey McKean cofirmed.

Finally the HW division is waking up.
feels like waste... dempsy should of been fed to a prospect, not used as a keep busy for someone with a mando.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 15:27
by CMCanavessi
joshj909 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 15:10 Both should be in but Efe should be higher so he's in for me.
Why should he be higher?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 14 Jul 2023, 17:11
by joshj909
CMCanavessi wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 15:27
joshj909 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 15:10 Both should be in but Efe should be higher so he's in for me.
Why should he be higher?
I'm basically going off quantity of mid level wins as I think that Takam and Demirezen are close in terms of value of the victories based on ability and recent record these days. I'd probably fancy Demirezen to just about beat Takam but that's speculation. It's close but I think Efe edges it.

I'd have them both ranked #12 and #13 anyway. Ortiz won't have a fight by September so he can get voted out and the other can get voted in.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 00:40
by KiwiRider
I'm trying to imagine them fighting each other, and I feel Mak would come out on top.
Sanchez is the first decent fighter Aggie has faced as a pro and he really had no answers, no plan B.
He looks amazing when fighting guys he is supposed to beat, but Mak isn't one if those.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 04:27
by Ruthless-RKO
KiwiRider wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 00:40 I'm trying to imagine them fighting each other, and I feel Mak would come out on top.
Sanchez is the first decent fighter Aggie has faced as a pro and he really had no answers, no plan B.
He looks amazing when fighting guys he is supposed to beat, but Mak isn't one if those.
I believe Mak would win too.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 04:30
by Ruthless-RKO
Added Hrgovic's fight to the list.

HW division waking up.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 08:13
by pound per pound
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 14:48 Filip Hrgovic vs. Demsey McKean cofirmed.

Finally the HW division is waking up.
More like Demsey McCkean is going to take a brief involuntary nap.

A fight for the IBF world title? At least Hrgovic is fighting someone who is young, undefeated, and ranked what, 70th at Box Rec?

It not his fault, Ruiz, Fury, and just about all the top contenders are ducking him.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 08:24
by Ruthless-RKO
pound per pound wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 08:13
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 14:48 Filip Hrgovic vs. Demsey McKean cofirmed.

Finally the HW division is waking up.
A fight for the IBF world title? At least Hrgovic is fighting someone who is young, undefeated, and ranked what, 70th at Box Rec?

It not his fault, Ruiz, Fury, and just about all the top contenders are ducking him.
54th. :TU:

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 09:30
by Ruthless-RKO
If Tyson loses, does he drop?

If it's a professional boxing match,.. I don't see why not. :maybe:

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 13:10
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 09:30 If Tyson loses, does he drop?

If it's a professional boxing match,.. I don't see why not. :maybe:
Drops if he wins

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 17:01
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 09:30 If Tyson loses, does he drop?

If it's a professional boxing match,.. I don't see why not. :maybe:
If Tyson loses he is dropped clear out of the ratings. Losing to a guy making his debut is unforgiveable to a world champion

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 18:37
by SportsRatings
Ajagba for me. Schedule strength for Efe is 3x as tough as Mak's in terms of viable fighters they've faced.

Win over Demirizen is as at least as good as beating old Takam. Mak beating impossibly over-the-hill Peter and Wach is nothing.

I'd probably rather add Kossubutskiy, the guy Jared Anderson was supposed to fight, but of these 2 it's Efe

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 19:16
by gregregegg
I went mak..., but if shaw destroys Goodall next week then i might change that to Efe....

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 22:06
by oogiebe
I missed the vote!!!! :oo

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 15 Jul 2023, 22:09
by HomicideHenry
I'm still blown away Dubois was #6 on BoxRec.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 05:38
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 22:06 I missed the vote!!!! :oo
What vote?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 16 Jul 2023, 11:42
by Ruthless-RKO
8 a piece.

Let’s get to 30 votes total.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 17 Jul 2023, 04:19
by Finkel
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Jul 2023, 09:30 If Tyson loses, does he drop?

If it's a professional boxing match,.. I don't see why not. :maybe:
How about removing him if he doesn't engage in a professional boxing match, like we have been other fighters on the list?

There really is no excuse for not fighting any ranked contenders within a 12 month period.

Also, shouldn't Ngannou's fight record read "debut" if it does end up counting on Fury's record.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #15 Spot

Posted: 17 Jul 2023, 04:41
by Finkel
Given Pulev just got dropped due to not fighting in a 12 month period. Who is next up?

Usyk - August
Ruiz Jr. & Ortiz - September
Wilder - October
Fury & Chisora - December