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Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 20 Jul 2023, 11:07
by locoxelbox
Prior to Andy Cruz's 10-round debut win there were many comments even from boxers/coaches that he shouldn't dare to try boxing a 10-rounder in his debut. That he should go the traditional route 4(!), 6, 8, rounds etc. To start, Cruz is soon 28 and doesn't have the time to go a slow route as he would miss out on his best paydays being past his prime when the big fights would come. To put it in context, Lomachenko was 25 when he made his debut.

Secondly, Cruz isn't the average 20-year-old debutant with some 50 amateur bouts. Adding to the Olympic gold, 3 World Championships, etc, Cruz was 16-0 in the WSB and fought a 6 round pro exhibition in Mexico against a former world champion.

That doesn't guarantee that he will be successful over 10 rounds of course but it isn't exactly the first time somebody has tried it. Here are just some names I found debuted in 8 or 10 rounders. Please add other names to the list of boxers who never fought in 4-6 rounders.

Saensak Muangsurin - 10 rounds (won KO 1). Won the WBC title in his 4th fight in a scheduled 15-rounder (KO 8).

Jeff Fenech - 10 rounds (won TKO 2). Started with 10, 10, 12, 10, 12, 12 rounds before winning the IBF title in a scheduled 15 round bout (TKO 9) in less than 8 months from his debut.

Thammanoon Niyomtrong - 10 rounds (won TD 6)

Naoya Inoue - 8 rounds (won KO 4) Was 19 years old.

Galal Yafai - 10 rounds

Pete Rademacher - 15 rounds. Challenged for the World title inhis pro debut. Had one 8-rounder, all his other bouts were 10-rounders.

One who almost fit the criteria is Veeraphol Sahaprom who debuted over 12 rounds (won TKO 3). Won a world championship in his 4th fight. Had one 6-rounder late in his career.

Others who started with one 6-ronder, then went directly to 8 or 10 rounds:
Ryota Murata
David Morrell
Takuma Inoue
Kosei Tanaka
Kenshiro Teraji
Kazuto Ioka

Heavyweight champion Gene Tunney had a 10-rounder in his debut, Ingemar Johansson an 8-rounder. In Argentina, there were no such thing as a 4-rounder until the 1990'ies. Most champions debuted over 6 rounds and within 5-6 fights were boxing in 10-rounders.

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 20 Jul 2023, 17:15
by bwu
Vasyl Lomachenko.

Sung Kil Moon had a single eight rounder to start his career and after that he was in double digits.

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 20 Jul 2023, 18:39
by Redback Rasta
Sam Soliman had a single 4 rounder and his next 3 fights were 12 rounders, all of which were for titles.

Another Aussie, current contender Paulo Aokuso, started with an 8 rounder and is unlikely to ever fight a 4 or 6 rounder.

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 20 Jul 2023, 22:25
by locoxelbox
Thanks, Lomachenko was an obvious one :doh: .
Aokuso fighting 8-10 rounders and didn't even have a long amateur career.

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 21 Jul 2023, 08:05
by Flump
Charlie Magri is another. His 3rd fight, for the British title, was scheduled for 15.

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 22 Jul 2023, 12:47
by writehooks
George Chuvalo. After knocking out four opponents on the same night (April 24, 1956) to win the Jack Dempsey novice heavyweight tournament, Chuvalo turned pro on June 11, winning an eight-round decision over South African champion Johnny Arthur, who was 30-7 at the time ...

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 23 Jul 2023, 08:41
by locoxelbox
Chuvalo's wins in the Jack Dempsey tournament (3-round bouts) has been included on his pro record. Incorrect?

Two other Olympians who debuted in 10-rounders: Michael Katsidis and Albert Batyrgaziev

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 23 Jul 2023, 14:48
by writehooks
Chuvalo's career record of 73-18-2 (64 KO) includes his four wins in the Dempsey amateur event only because he collected $500 as the tournament winner.

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 06 Aug 2023, 08:51
by funso banjo baby
4 rounders are a modern curse surely ?

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 22 Nov 2023, 04:59
by 1388039
After fighting one four-round match, Sam Soliman went on to win three twelve-round bouts, all of them were for titles. The duel between Ryota Murata and David Morrell is one to be excited aboutmini crossword.

Re: Fighters who had no 4 or 6-rounders

Posted: 22 Nov 2023, 05:26
by bennie
Flump wrote: 21 Jul 2023, 08:05 Charlie Magri is another. His 3rd fight, for the British title, was scheduled for 15.
Yes indeed. Ray Gilbody also turned pro with a vast amateur boxing career behind him and went straight to eight-rounders.