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how many wins would del have got from the following 9 title defense wins wilder had

molina
duhaupas
szpilka (chisora ko'd him in 2)
arreola
washington
stiverne rematch
ortiz
breazeale
ortiz


we know he'd obviously never beat fury, but neither could wilder

It all depends. Chisora either looks like a contender or a worn out journeyman

szpilka was too chinny and chis already ko'd him easily
washington crumbles too easily from pressure
molina lacking heart and chinny, wrong weaknesses for a pressure fighter with some chin
rematch stiverne was badly faded
arreola barely beating guys like travis kauffman and getting hurt by them at that stage
duhaupas was a bit negative and low output, think del outworks him

i'd take him over these 6. big dom would come down to a battle of attrition and i do think del way more sturdy, but it could be see saw. ortiz probably too skilled for del.

del could be hot and cold though i think the worst person he's lost legitimately to, kabayel, is still better than all those guys he'd beat

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Aug 2023, 21:55 how many wins would del have got from the following 9 title defense wins wilder had

molina
duhaupas
szpilka (chisora ko'd him in 2)
arreola
washington
stiverne rematch
ortiz
breazeale
ortiz


we know he'd obviously never beat fury, but neither could wilder

At his best he would have had a shot against everyone bar Ortiz I reckon.

tbh malik scott might be better than a few of those challengers, though del ko'd him too

On a given day he could beat all of them.

On another, he could also lose to a fair few of them …

He's never beaten a world class opponent

Depends on what you Chisora you are looking at. Chisora is not the same boxer he was 5-10 years ago. Its just a sign of the standard of the division that he is still considered a gatekeeper. Watch the Haye fight as see how much quicker Chisora was back then.

Chisora of around the Fury 2 fight would beat all (with the possible exception of Oritz).

Chisora of 2023 vs those fighters when they fought Wilder - loses to Ortiz, Breazele, Washington, Arreola, Szipilka - not sure on Duhaupas and Stirvene was in bad shape so that one is harder to call.

The best version of Chisora beats all of them apart from Ortiz.

Here’s another comparison….

How many of Wilders opponents (except Fury) would David Haye have beaten?

Frostieballs wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 07:22 Here’s another comparison….

How many of Wilders opponents (except Fury) would David Haye have beaten?

All

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 06:13 He's never beaten a world class opponent

wouldnt really need to beat many of those with this lineup

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 06:13 He's never beaten a world class opponent

A lot of the guys on that list aren't world class, nowhere near in fact..

chinarich wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 06:44 The best version of Chisora beats all of them apart from Ortiz.

Yeah I'd say the same.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 13:19

chinarich wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 06:44 The best version of Chisora beats all of them apart from Ortiz.

Yeah I'd say the same.

I agree, but I'm 50/50 on Arreola.

in the year leading up to fighting wilder, arreola had a highly competitive war vs curtis harper, a gift draw vs fred kassi, and a debatable split decision over travis kauffman in which he was dropped. i would go del

jwfg wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 12:08

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 06:13 He's never beaten a world class opponent

A lot of the guys on that list aren't world class, nowhere near in fact..

Ssshhh. You could say that about Wlad’s 13,000 oppo too.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Aug 2023, 13:43 in the year leading up to fighting wilder, arreola had a highly competitive war vs curtis harper, a gift draw vs fred kassi, and a debatable split decision over travis kauffman in which he was dropped. i would go del

That's fair enough. Arreola is a bit like Del, you never know which one's gonna rock up on the day.

Id have chis favorite against all except ortiz. and while i would have had ortiz favorite, it wouldent be a massive one.

All but Ortiz.

Stiverne may have eeked past Del Boy at the time of his first fight with Wilder (early 2015). Ortiz probably would have beaten Chisora at any time. Rest Chisora would have capable of winning.

another wilder title challenger chisora beat, though by gawd that was sheeyat. del is worse than ever and still pulled it off

scott ko
szpilka ko
washington ud
helly robbery split loss


if chisora had just been managed differently he couldve been a long reigning a side champ

Unquestionably, all of them except Ortiz. He could have beat Ortiz, it's just less clear cut because Ortiz was pretty untested overall.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Aug 2023, 21:55 how many wins would del have got from the following 9 title defense wins wilder had

molina
duhaupas
szpilka (chisora ko'd him in 2)
arreola
washington
stiverne rematch
ortiz
breazeale
ortiz


we know he'd obviously never beat fury, but neither could wilder

Del is hot and cold, but I'd say 6 are fairly pedestrian wins for him. Stiverne and Ortiz are the only two that I'd have difficulty predicting. What a horrible list of defenses.

Ortiz would beat him handily enough, to skilled.

Everyone else Chisora could beat. He’s inconsistent though so I don’t think he’d win all of them on the spin in reality