Next for Deontay Wilder ?

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Next for Deontay Wilder ?

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Wilder is looking to fight in October as a Joshua tune up- any speculation on the likely opponent ?
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Haven't heard or read any rumours outside of a potential Andy Ruiz fight falling apart. Guys like Wallin, Takam and Parker are solid tune ups for a fight against Joshua.
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Probably Washington.
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1111519 wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 21:41 Haven't heard or read any rumours outside of a potential Andy Ruiz fight falling apart. Guys like Wallin, Takam and Parker are solid tune ups for a fight against Joshua.
Not sure how much risk he wants to take? As we saw, Joshua played it very safe.

Wallin looks like he will be fighting Gassiev in September. So that would put him out of calculations for October.

Takam is 42, has had 5 fights in 4 years and lost 2 of them. Safe opponent these days. So yeah, he fits the bill.

Parker is an interesting possibility. But he is durable and Wilder will probably prefer someone he can blast out of there.
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gregregegg wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 21:52 Probably Washington.
I don't dislike Washington as the choice.
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Redback Rasta wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 22:04
gregregegg wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 21:52 Probably Washington.
I don't dislike Washington as the choice.
you'll like pretty much anyone for wilder then it seems , i guess criticism is saved up for aj

wilder already fought and ko'd washington. washington lost 5 times since and hasn't won in the last 4 years. it would be a laughable fight. if you're going to face a can at least make it someone you havent already beat

i mean a guy like joe cusmano would be a total sh!t opponent too, but at least wilder hasnt beat him and he won his last fight, vs a known opponent. he could even fight jermaine franklin to do the whole 'i stopped him but you didnt' thing. if he's still serious he should be willing to fight at least a carlos takam though
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I could see Jarrell Miller
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Lackeos wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 23:40 I could see Jarrell Miller
Would anyone risk a repeat drug offender in the current climate?
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Redback Rasta wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 22:04
gregregegg wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 21:52 Probably Washington.
I don't dislike Washington as the choice.
He’s already fought him.. does that make a difference..

In todays boxing.. they wouldn’t care.
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of course it does, 0 chance it would be washington and that's a total sh!t fight anyway so good. wilder's done his share of can crushing, but he's never rematched a guy he already ko'd who hasnt won in 4 years

'i dont dislike washington as the choice' ya okay bombsquad :lol:
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If wash had got the decision va chis I think they would have thought about it, but can’t with that loss really… makes sense though Low risk, stiff tall orthodox. Kinda makes sense as a warm up for AJ (when you consider he wants zero risk dude to Saudi money).

Cassius Chaney? Or Mabey Franklin. Hard to say, but I can’t see it being much to get excited about
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Redback Rasta wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 00:17
Lackeos wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 23:40 I could see Jarrell Miller
Would anyone risk a repeat drug offender in the current climate?
Man. Not the guy who said Gerald Washington criticizing my suggestion.

Yeah, I'd risk it (I don't think I'd risk Whyte passing a drug test right now, though), because Jarrell Miller is a former top 10, still undefeated, American (from a marketability perspective), easy pickings, and American (from a Covid travel perspective). I.e. do you want your fight to get canceled because your European opponent caught Covid on the flight over to America? I doubt Wilder is looking for a tough top 15 opponent as a tune-up when he's presumably looking for a quick turnaround to fight Joshua just a few months later. He probably don't want to target a no-name like Lenier Pero, Arslan Yallyev, Jose Larduet, Agron Smakici, or Jack Massey. Probably doesn't plan on targeting an opponent recovering from a recent fight like Chisora, Washington, or Helenius. Probably doesn't want to target someone who has bad momentum right now like Yoka, Lerena, Shaw, Arias, Charles Martin, Forrest, or Browne. Probably DOES want to target someone who possesses some height or weight like Jarrell Miller, Fabio Wardley, or Joe Cusumano. Probably isn't looking to go after someone who has a fight already scheduled like Ajagba and Kossobutskiy. Some fighters like Huni, Kean, Jalolov, and Dychko either aren't ready to step up right now or won't ever want to step up.
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I don't care if Joshua is Wilders next fight. It's not as if Wilder is this crazy talented fighter that needs to stay extra sharp due to being a fighter with great timing. If there was ever a one trick pony in the sport of boxing, its Wilder, and his trick is to land a big right hand and put his opponents lights out.

With the age of Wilder and his fighting style, a cupcake fight to stay active is completely useless IMO.
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Would love to see Parker
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oogiebe wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 17:24 Would love to see Parker
Good call. Unlikely though, I reckon.
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Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

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Redback Rasta wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 19:39
oogiebe wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 17:24 Would love to see Parker
Good call. Unlikely though, I reckon.
I like the Parker fight also and he has called out Wilder before, but I think its unlikely for both. Parker wants another title shot and Wilder will want to look good before his potential clash with AJ. I expect Parker would completely outbox him for 5-6 rounds before Wilder knocks him out.

But lets be realistic, this is Wilder we are talking about. We will more likely get the final bout of the highly anticipated Stiverne trilogy or Kevin Johnson.
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Redback Rasta wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 22:02
1111519 wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 21:41 Haven't heard or read any rumours outside of a potential Andy Ruiz fight falling apart. Guys like Wallin, Takam and Parker are solid tune ups for a fight against Joshua.
Not sure how much risk he wants to take? As we saw, Joshua played it very safe.
Joshua played it safe with a last minute replacement. His initial opponent Whyte was a high risk low reward type of fight.
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1111519 wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 04:58
Redback Rasta wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 22:02
1111519 wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 21:41 Haven't heard or read any rumours outside of a potential Andy Ruiz fight falling apart. Guys like Wallin, Takam and Parker are solid tune ups for a fight against Joshua.
Not sure how much risk he wants to take? As we saw, Joshua played it very safe.
Joshua played it safe with a last minute replacement. His initial opponent Whyte was a high risk low reward type of fight.
High risk? Why, because Eddie Hearn said? Fury absolutely toyed with Whyte. Made him look 3rd rate and at this stage he probably is.
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If he boxes before the AJ fight, it will be a PDC guy.
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Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 05:13
1111519 wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 04:58
Redback Rasta wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 22:02

Not sure how much risk he wants to take? As we saw, Joshua played it very safe.
Joshua played it safe with a last minute replacement. His initial opponent Whyte was a high risk low reward type of fight.
High risk? Why, because Eddie Hearn said? Fury absolutely toyed with Whyte. Made him look 3rd rate and at this stage he probably is.
Should've scheduled Gerald Washington instead of Whyte, that would get you excited :lol:

Heck , why not make AJ vs Washington next? wouldnt dislike that one right!
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A rematch with Sconiers...with the cameras on. :box:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 13:25
Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 05:13
1111519 wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 04:58

Joshua played it safe with a last minute replacement. His initial opponent Whyte was a high risk low reward type of fight.
High risk? Why, because Eddie Hearn said? Fury absolutely toyed with Whyte. Made him look 3rd rate and at this stage he probably is.
Should've scheduled Gerald Washington instead of Whyte, that would get you excited :lol:

Heck , why not make AJ vs Washington next? wouldnt dislike that one right!
I betcha can't guess who wrote this margaret! Go on, give it a go.... :OhYes:
Most seem to think it will be Washington who steps in. Absolute joke if it is. Washington is 41 years old and hasn't won a fight in over 4 years!

If anyone even considers parting with money to watch AJ-Washington you are part of the reason boxing is in such a sh1t state.
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Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

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Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 05:13
1111519 wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 04:58
Redback Rasta wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 22:02

Not sure how much risk he wants to take? As we saw, Joshua played it very safe.
Joshua played it safe with a last minute replacement. His initial opponent Whyte was a high risk low reward type of fight.
High risk? Why, because Eddie Hearn said? Fury absolutely toyed with Whyte. Made him look 3rd rate and at this stage he probably is.
No because Joshua can get clipped on the chin like in their first fight and possibly lose like he did against Ruiz. And you know it would have been a competitive fight if it didn’t get cancelled.
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1111519 wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 17:56
Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 05:13
1111519 wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 04:58

Joshua played it safe with a last minute replacement. His initial opponent Whyte was a high risk low reward type of fight.
High risk? Why, because Eddie Hearn said? Fury absolutely toyed with Whyte. Made him look 3rd rate and at this stage he probably is.
No because Joshua can get clipped on the chin like in their first fight and possibly lose like he did against Ruiz. And you know it would have been a competitive fight if it didn’t get cancelled.
Any heavyweight, if they get hit flush by someone who can punch, can find themselves in trouble and Whyte did land against Joshua the first time. But it still didn't do him any good. Joshua still had him outa there inside 7.

That first Joshua-Whyte fight was in 2015. That's 8 years ago and we have seen how 'dangerous' Whyte is in his recent fights. His decline has been dramatic. Best emphasized by Fury, who absolutely schooled him.

Yes, Joshua has declined as well but Whyte is shot.
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Old Gerry Washington still looks fresh as a daisy though. Well, if chosen as an opponent for Wilder. However, if chosen as an opponent for Joshua then he's all of his 41 years and not won a fight in 4 years, including a recent defeat to a shot to shit Chizza.
Strange, weird, fked up logic.
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