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Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 02:31
by Redback Rasta
Sky's documentary 'Hatton' is due for release next week.

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Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 02:38
by MightyWarrior
F**king terrible picture to choose, I bet the boneheaded producers didn’t ask Ricky’s opinion about that

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 03:49
by Nightmare Roy
Yeah why pick a picture of one of his lowest points

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 03:58
by sharpei_louis
Good picture to be fair, and if the documentary looks at his low points then why not use it? Big Hatton fan, hope it's a bit deeper than the older Sky stuff just painting him as a man of the people bobbing round in his Reliant

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 04:32
by Frostieballs
I like the picture. A different approach than the usual gloss over.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 04:34
by Steveh583
Hasn't this been done to death already? I hope it isn't full of his ''jokes'' :roll:

I'd love a legit reason why he didnt fight the WBC champ junior witter just after the floyd loss. A better match up and draw than lazcano.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 05:32
by CaptainSpacerod
Steveh583 wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 04:34 Hasn't this been done to death already? I hope it isn't full of his ''jokes'' :roll:

I'd love a legit reason why he didnt fight the WBC champ junior witter just after the floyd loss. A better match up and draw than lazcano.
Because he couldn’t stand Witter and didn’t want to give him a big payday.

Witter may well have been a better match up but I doubt he would have been a bigger draw - the 55k attendance for the Lazcano bout was a post war record at the time

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 06:42
by stujones
Hope they talk about his timing of when he decided to declare his mental health problems - soon after the pic of him snorting coccaine and having an affair with that Irish boxing lass made front page news.

Not saying Ricky played the mental health card and did not have issues, but would he have brought it to the public and raised such awareness if it wasn't for that picture.

The Pacquiao fight was an odd one, terrible start then seemed to be (albeit recklessly) finding himself in the fight and then boom. Always wondered what would have happened had he not got caught at that time and gone into the 3rd round.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 06:46
by JamesPhilips
Steveh583 wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 04:34 Hasn't this been done to death already? I hope it isn't full of his ''jokes'' :roll:

I'd love a legit reason why he didnt fight the WBC champ junior witter just after the floyd loss. A better match up and draw than lazcano.
If I found GGG in bed with my missus I’d tuck him in.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 07:18
by CaptainSpacerod
stujones wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 06:42 Hope they talk about his timing of when he decided to declare his mental health problems - soon after the pic of him snorting coccaine and having an affair with that Irish boxing lass made front page news.

Not saying Ricky played the mental health card and did not have issues, but would he have brought it to the public and raised such awareness if it wasn't for that picture.

The Pacquiao fight was an odd one, terrible start then seemed to be (albeit recklessly) finding himself in the fight and then boom. Always wondered what would have happened had he not got caught at that time and gone into the 3rd round.
Yep, Ricky’s expertly timed playing of the mental health card was clearly a cynical ploy to deflect attention from his lifestyle issues. This served as a blueprint for Tyson Fury who took it to the next level, virtually assuming the status of mental health ambassador to turn eyes away from some of his more unpalatable behaviour.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 07:27
by stujones
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 07:18
stujones wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 06:42 Hope they talk about his timing of when he decided to declare his mental health problems - soon after the pic of him snorting coccaine and having an affair with that Irish boxing lass made front page news.

Not saying Ricky played the mental health card and did not have issues, but would he have brought it to the public and raised such awareness if it wasn't for that picture.

The Pacquiao fight was an odd one, terrible start then seemed to be (albeit recklessly) finding himself in the fight and then boom. Always wondered what would have happened had he not got caught at that time and gone into the 3rd round.
Yep, Ricky’s expertly timed playing of the mental health card was clearly a cynical ploy to deflect attention from his lifestyle issues. This served as a blueprint for Tyson Fury who took it to the next level, virtually assuming the status of mental health ambassador to turn eyes away from some of his more unpalatable behaviour.
Very true, again I think it was obvious (not meaning to big myself up but I research Mental Health as part of my job) that both Ricky and Tyson had/have very legitimate issues - in hindsight you could probably see it a mile away even before the papers exposed lifestyle issues and perhaps both needed to be caught out before seeking the help they needed. At the same time though, I do wonder if they would have been such ambassadors had they not been caught.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 07:55
by CaptainSpacerod
stujones wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 07:27 Very true, again I think it was obvious (not meaning to big myself up but I research Mental Health as part of my job) that both Ricky and Tyson had/have very legitimate issues - in hindsight you could probably see it a mile away even before the papers exposed lifestyle issues and perhaps both needed to be caught out before seeking the help they needed. At the same time though, I do wonder if they would have been such ambassadors had they not been caught.
I’m a natural cynic and maybe my cynicism is misplaced here but for me Hatton and Fury merely went through periods of being a bit down much like everyone else on the planet does. No big deal and certainly not worthy of vast outpourings of sympathy. The trouble is that mental health is such a burgeoning industry now that there’s a willingness to categorise “feeling a bit upset” as a mental health issue in order to grease the wheels of the gravy train.

Their “suffering” is a world away from what Bruno and Eubank Sr seem to have gone through, I’ve very sympathy for their plight.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 08:08
by Spud
MightyWarrior wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 02:38 F**king terrible picture to choose, I bet the boneheaded producers didn’t ask Ricky’s opinion about that
100% Agreed

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 09:46
by Nightmare Roy
JamesPhilips wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 06:46
Steveh583 wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 04:34 Hasn't this been done to death already? I hope it isn't full of his ''jokes'' :roll:

I'd love a legit reason why he didnt fight the WBC champ junior witter just after the floyd loss. A better match up and draw than lazcano.
If I found GGG in bed with my missus I’d tuck him in.
...I'd buy him a pint for saving me a job

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 10:11
by tonyevs
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 07:55
stujones wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 07:27 Very true, again I think it was obvious (not meaning to big myself up but I research Mental Health as part of my job) that both Ricky and Tyson had/have very legitimate issues - in hindsight you could probably see it a mile away even before the papers exposed lifestyle issues and perhaps both needed to be caught out before seeking the help they needed. At the same time though, I do wonder if they would have been such ambassadors had they not been caught.
I’m a natural cynic and maybe my cynicism is misplaced here but for me Hatton and Fury merely went through periods of being a bit down much like everyone else on the planet does. No big deal and certainly not worthy of vast outpourings of sympathy. The trouble is that mental health is such a burgeoning industry now that there’s a willingness to categorise “feeling a bit upset” as a mental health issue in order to grease the wheels of the gravy train.

Their “suffering” is a world away from what Bruno and Eubank Sr seem to have gone through, I’ve very sympathy for their plight.
I previously worked in a CMHT and currently work most days with people experiencing serious mental health issues.

Most, if not all people will have episodes of being low in mood. Life is a rollercoaster of good times and bad times which our mood will reflect.

I sure Hatton & Fury experienced high and lows exactly the same. But I don't believe for a second Fury has bipolar .. anyone who has worked or witnessed a person experiencing that will say exactly the same.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 11:14
by Steveh583
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 07:55
stujones wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 07:27 Very true, again I think it was obvious (not meaning to big myself up but I research Mental Health as part of my job) that both Ricky and Tyson had/have very legitimate issues - in hindsight you could probably see it a mile away even before the papers exposed lifestyle issues and perhaps both needed to be caught out before seeking the help they needed. At the same time though, I do wonder if they would have been such ambassadors had they not been caught.
I’m a natural cynic and maybe my cynicism is misplaced here but for me Hatton and Fury merely went through periods of being a bit down much like everyone else on the planet does. No big deal and certainly not worthy of vast outpourings of sympathy. The trouble is that mental health is such a burgeoning industry now that there’s a willingness to categorise “feeling a bit upset” as a mental health issue in order to grease the wheels of the gravy train.

Their “suffering” is a world away from what Bruno and Eubank Sr seem to have gone through, I’ve very sympathy for their plight.
The problem with “mental health” (whatever the fukk that vague term means) is that you can’t call people out for being bullshitters.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 12:31
by Spud
I genuinely think Tyson Fury & Ricky Hatton have been excellent with regards mental health.

If both of them have helped 1 person I think thats good news

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 12:33
by jtourettes
Steveh583 wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 04:34 Hasn't this been done to death already? I hope it isn't full of his ''jokes'' :roll:

I'd love a legit reason why he didnt fight the WBC champ junior witter just after the floyd loss. A better match up and draw than lazcano.
He can regale us all with tales of Mr Guinness.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 12:35
by Spud
Come on guys I think some of you are being unnecessarily hard on Hatton.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 12:37
by jtourettes
Spud wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:35 Come on guys I think some of you are being unnecessarily hard on Hatton.
He was an entertaining fighter no doubt, but he did avoid Witter, had a couple of very fortunate decisions in his favour and then bored me silly with his man of the people schtick.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 12:42
by Spud
jtourettes wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:37
Spud wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:35 Come on guys I think some of you are being unnecessarily hard on Hatton.
He was an entertaining fighter no doubt, but he did avoid Witter, had a couple of very fortunate decisions in his favour and then bored me silly with his man of the people schtick.
I think Ricky Hatton was excellent for British boxing.

I also think he has had a hard time personally, some things he brought on himself but nonetheless he had it tough.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 12:50
by handsofstone
Hatton quickly catching up with Ali and Tyson for documentaries

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 12:54
by Spud
I am very surprised that David Haye has not brought out a documentary.

In the entire time I was with David, he employed a camera man who literally went everywhere with him.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 13:55
by tonyevs
Spud wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:54 I am very surprised that David Haye has not brought out a documentary.

In the entire time I was with David, he employed a camera man who literally went everywhere with him.
Haye enjoys watching them all by himself too much to share them.

Re: Documentary on Ricky Hatton due for release Aug 31st

Posted: 25 Aug 2023, 14:20
by Steveh583
Spud wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:42
jtourettes wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:37
Spud wrote: 25 Aug 2023, 12:35 Come on guys I think some of you are being unnecessarily hard on Hatton.
He was an entertaining fighter no doubt, but he did avoid Witter, had a couple of very fortunate decisions in his favour and then bored me silly with his man of the people schtick.
I think Ricky Hatton was excellent for British boxing.

I also think he has had a hard time personally, some things he brought on himself but nonetheless he had it tough.
TBF I felt sorry for him when his folks betrayed him