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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 08:08
by Ruthless-RKO
Updated Ranking

Current ranking:
Image πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: 28.10.2023 vs. πŸ‡«πŸ‡· Francis Ngannou - 17(12) 3 0* - (Unranked, Inactive)

2. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Anthony Joshua - 26(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

6. πŸ‡²πŸ‡½ Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡³ Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - (#5)

8. πŸ‡³πŸ‡Ώ Joseph Parker - 32(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA - (Failed Drug Test)

10. πŸ‡­πŸ‡· Filip Hrgovic - 16(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

11. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡© Martin Bakole - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Frank Sanchez - 22(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. πŸ‡¨πŸ‡Ί Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. πŸ‡·πŸ‡Ί Arslanbek Makhmudov - 17(16) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

* MMA record

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Question: How are the rankings affected after Usyk’s stoppage win over Dubois, Anderson’s stoppage win over Rudenko and does Ajagba enter the top 15 after his DQ win over Kossobutskiy?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 08:09
by Ruthless-RKO
My votes:

Usyk remains
Anderson up to #13
Efe stays out.

Dubois stays out.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 09:38
by joshj909
Usyk up to #1 - based on previous record going into the fight compared to Fury.

Efe up to #13 - Could arguably have gone higher if the fight wasn't a farce.

Anderson OUT - Would come back in below Makhmudov when Ortiz gets voted out for inactivity.

Dubois, Kossobutskiy, Rudenko, remain out.

My current rankings:
1. Usyk
2. Fury
3. Joshua
4. Ruiz
5. Hrgovic
6. Zhang
7. Whyte - TBC
8. Joyce
9. Sanchez
10. Parker
11. Wilder
12. Ajagba
13. Makhmudov
14. Chisora
15. Bakole
*16. Anderson

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 09:43
by joshj909
Ruiz and Ortiz going out due to inactivity in a week's time.

Also, with Whyte also possibly going out. Who on earth will take our 15th spot? Seems like all the relevant guys will be in the top 14 or inactive and we will just have to pick someone reluctantly. Chisora? Takam? Gassiev? Dubois? Miller? Huni? Kabayel? Pero? Wallin? Franklin? Wardley?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 09:43
by oogiebe
Anderson to 12. He did what we were all concerned about and tightened up that defense. Keeping his hands up while stepping back and not taking unnecessary shots, regardless of the opponent. He also seemed to have better patience and wasn't depending on power head shots, breaking his opponent down.

RE: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 09:46
by oogiebe
Usyk to #1
Zhan to never never land
Rudenko to the retirement home
Dubois further out of the top 15.

Now Efe is a struggle. He looked much better than recent fights, but it was difficult to really review his performance. Weirdest fight I remember seeing in quite some time. He was on his way to stopping Zhan I thought, but the DQ stopped us from seeing it through.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 10:31
by Ruthless-RKO
I will be voting on Whyte soon, same with Ruiz and Ortiz.

Most likely next week.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 12:21
by Perkin Warbeck
Usyk up to #1.

Whyte should be removed.

Ajagba should replace Whyte, everyone below Whyte move up one spot.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 13:00
by Ruthless-RKO
Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 12:21 Usyk up to #1.

Whyte should be removed.

Ajagba should replace Whyte, everyone below Whyte move up one spot.
Anderson just move up one too?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 13:53
by Perkin Warbeck
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 13:00
Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 12:21 Usyk up to #1.

Whyte should be removed.

Ajagba should replace Whyte, everyone below Whyte move up one spot.
Anderson just move up one too?
Yes, but after Whyte is removed.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 15:22
by George_Jones88
Efe up to 13

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 15:33
by KiwiRider
oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 09:43 Anderson to 12. He did what we were all concerned about and tightened up that defense. Keeping his hands up while stepping back and not taking unnecessary shots, regardless of the opponent. He also seemed to have better patience and wasn't depending on power head shots, breaking his opponent down.
X2
Major adjustment which bodes well for his future.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 15:35
by CMCanavessi
Anderson 13, Mak 14, Efe 15. Ortiz out.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 15:37
by gregregegg
Usyk to 1,

efe to 12. (Weird going above frank but efe is taking real fights)

Anderson to 15,

mak out.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 15:59
by SendoTakeshi97
Agree on Usyk to #1.
Fighting a boxer is already worth more then what Fury does.

I don't think anything else should change.
With Anderson, we still kinda have to assume how good he really is.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 16:24
by margaret thatcher
usyk no change
anderson 13
efe 15

dubs out
zhan out
rudenko out

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 16:27
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 16:24 usyk no change
anderson 13
efe 15

dubs out
zhan out
rudenko out
So Efe at 15 meaning Mak out?

Tbh.. we gonna be clearing out some names in the coming weeks.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 16:29
by margaret thatcher
yes efe for mak

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 28 Aug 2023, 02:14
by Finkel
Usyk #1
In part due to Fury's inactivity.
Dubois #remains out
Dubois lost nearly every round, and quit off a jab. He even tried the old school trick of targetted low blows (the idea being you put enough damage on your opponent that taking an eventual point deduction is a tactical trade) which is what makes this "controversy" even more laughable.

Anderson #no change
He got in the top 15 after a competitive win over Martin. This stay busy opponent changes nothing for me.

Ajagba #remains out.
Zhan #remains out.
I just watched the Ajagba v Zhan fight and the referee was to blame for that farse. A clear case of the referee letting the home fighter get away with way too many low shots early on - Efe landed maybe 4 or 5 low jabs (some directly on the nut sack :lol: ) before Zhan retaliated. I think Zhan made up his mind that he would just take the DQ once he had points deducted, got jabbed in the balls yet again, and no point was taken off Ajagba.
Top 15 after that? Not for me.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 28 Aug 2023, 04:57
by Belanio
Usyk to #1

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 04:05
by Ruthless-RKO
Belanio wrote: ↑28 Aug 2023, 04:57Usyk to #1
I see many people agreeing with this.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 30 Aug 2023, 05:29
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Aug 2023, 04:05
Belanio wrote: ↑28 Aug 2023, 04:57Usyk to #1
I see many people agreeing with this.
You'd have to include the past 8 years to find a time where Fury had a better win on his record than Usyk had in the past 12 months.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 02 Sep 2023, 02:45
by Ruthless-RKO
Will close this off soon.

Quick question.

Once I done the adjustments..

Would you like me to just remove Whyte and move everyone up? Shall we wait til we hear more? Shall we just vote on him?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 02 Sep 2023, 10:42
by ironbeard
Usyk to #1.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Usyk vs. Dubois / Anderson vs. Rudenko / Ajagba vs. Kossobutskiy

Posted: 02 Sep 2023, 13:05
by CMCanavessi
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑02 Sep 2023, 02:45 Will close this off soon.

Quick question.

Once I done the adjustments..

Would you like me to just remove Whyte and move everyone up? Shall we wait til we hear more? Shall we just vote on him?
I would remove Whyte, Ruiz and Ortiz in just one sweep, but I'll be happy with just Whyte and Ortiz gone. Then we can vote 2 more to get in.