BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Vacant #14 & #15

[Ruthless-RKO]

Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

2. Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: 28.10.2023 vs. Francis Ngannou - 17(12) 3 0* - (Unranked, Inactive)

3. Anthony Joshua - 26(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

6. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - (#5)

7. Joseph Parker - 32(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Filip Hrgovic - 16(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Martin Bakole - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Frank Sanchez - 22(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Jared Anderson - 16(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Arslanbek Makhmudov - 17(16) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Efe Ajagba - 18(13) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. VACANT

15. VACANT

* MMA record
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Question: Who should we get in for #14 and #15?

Vote like this, so I can monitor it easily.

#14: (boxer name)
#15: (boxer name)

[joshj909]

Based on their records I would say Chisora then Takam but I think that would just hold up our rankings.

My choices are:
#14: Huni
#15: Gassiev

We will vote on Gassiev/Wallin in a few weeks anyway.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Based on their records I would say Chisora then Takam but I think that would just hold up our rankings.

You know going off recent wins, Chisira and Takam are both up there., But it would feel like going backwards

This is the likes of Yoka's fault.

Put him in with Takam, it was supposed to be him showing us he is a good boxer and can be ranked. But instead he was crap and in the process of losing to Takam, he's made Bakole's win over him seem crap too now.

Guys like Wallin, Huni and Gassiev, they ARE the future.. But they really do need to get more active. Prospects, potential world title challengers. They need to get their act together.

[JonnyKupfer]

#14 Agit Kabayel
#15 Justis Huni

[joshj909]

The "relevant"fights in last three years for each of these guys:

Chisora:
Wins over: Pulev, Washington
Losses to: Fury, Parker X2, Usyk

Takam:
Wins over: Yoka, Forrest
Losses to: Makhmudov, Joyce

Huni:
Wins over: Goodall, Gallen, Opelu

Gassiev:
Win over: Balogun,

Kossobutskiy:
Wins over: Duhaupas, Dawejko
Loss to: Ajagba

Miller*:
Win over: Browne

Kabayel:
Win over: Smakici

Pero:
Win over: Vykhryst/Faust

Rozanski (Bridgerweight):
Wins over: Babic, Spzilka

Yoka:
Wins over: Duhaupas, Djeko, Hammer
Losses: Bakole, Takam

Wallin:
Win over: Breazeale

Wardley:
Wins over: Coffie, Webb, Gorman

Dubois:
Wins over: Lerena, Bryan,
Losses to: Joyce, Usyk

Franklin:
Wins: No relevant wins
Losses: Joshua, Whyte (competitive)

Jalolov:
Wins over: Mulowayi, Harper

Clarke:
Wins over: Wach, Allen

[gregregegg]

If I had to vote I would say wardly, DDD… Mabey huni or Clarke.

But I wouldn’t bother voting. I’d throw winner of Otto vs gassiev in, and next guy that gets a good win… I’d rather have vacant spots than someone that’s don’t fornicating nothing. I know that seems silly but Geeeze it’s grim.

[cpx2]

I'd say
14: Takam
15: Dubois

A convincing result in Wallin-Gassiev September 30th and I'd have the winner at 14.

[CMCanavessi]

14: Winner of Gassiev - Wallin
15: Dubois

[oogiebe]

14: Winner of Gassiev - Wallin
15: Dubois

That makes the most sense right now.

[joshj909]

For those voting Dubois, why?

[oogiebe]

For those voting Dubois, why?

really based on the rest of the division. He's better than those under him despite his recent performances. Another loss and he can drop below the top 15.

[oogiebe]

#14: Winner of Gassiev/Wallin
#15: Dubois

[Ruthless-RKO]

For those voting Dubois, why?

Was literally thinking the same. Those voting in.

[joshj909]

For those voting Dubois, why?

Was literally thinking the same. Those voting in.

It reminds me of when people voted Wallin in. Asked questions in a loss (or losses) despite losing definitively yet has no significant wins. Just don't know who on Dubois' record makes him stand out above the others even if the others are only slightly better. If people want to judge him on his performances in his losses then what about his performances in his wins when he was dropped three times in the first round by an average cruiserweight in Lerena?

[chinarich]

#14 Chisora
#15 Takam

[stpeach]

14: Winner of Gassiev - Wallin
15: Chisora

[Finkel]

I’d throw winner of Otto vs gassiev in, and next guy that gets a good win… I’d rather have vacant spots than someone that’s don’t fornicating nothing.

I agree with this. I feel like I am just drawing names out of a hat for those two places.

Personally, I'm also for leaving them both blank, then we can vote on winner of Gassiev v Wallin end of this month, and winners of Miller v Charr and Huni v Tabiti end of next.

If I had to choose today, maybe:
14. Takam
15. Miller

Urgh, losing two fighters to inactivity and another to adverse findings has really created one ugly rankings.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Urgh, losing two fighters to inactivity and another to adverse findings has really created one ugly rankings.

Hasn't helped..

[Finkel]

Urgh, losing two fighters to inactivity and another to adverse findings has really created one ugly rankings.

Hasn't helped..

But hey, it does freshen things up.

Hopefully things will look a bit better over the coming months. I do wonder what Ruiz is going to do though.

[George_Jones88]

14: Winner of Gassiev - Wallin
15: Takam

[gregregegg]

Urgh, losing two fighters to inactivity and another to adverse findings has really created one ugly rankings.

Hasn't helped..

But hey, it does freshen things up.

Hopefully things will look a bit better over the coming months. I do wonder what Ruiz is going to do though.

Looks like we might freshen things up with takem… a 42 year old who’s been around the big stage for over a decade.

(I don’t hate it, good win over yoka).

[tiny_acres]

When we are deciding between Chisora, Takam and Dubois. We know this era freaking sucks.

[oogiebe]

When we are deciding between Chisora, Takam and Dubois. We know this era freaking sucks.

Indeed.

[CMCanavessi]

According to the podcast @BoxingTownQC, Arslanbek Makhmudov will face Croatian southpaw Agron Smakici. Also, the fight between Joseph Parker and Simon Kean is reportedly signed. Both bouts will take place on October 28 on the Fury-Nganou undercard.

So, this guy: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/574472

I guess it's better than nothing, and better than his last opponent.

Edit: would have been much better to have Parker - Makhmudov and Kean - Smakici...

[tiny_acres]

According to the podcast @BoxingTownQC, Arslanbek Makhmudov will face Croatian southpaw Agron Smakici. Also, the fight between Joseph Parker and Simon Kean is reportedly signed. Both bouts will take place on October 28 on the Fury-Nganou undercard.

So, this guy: https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/574472

I guess it's better than nothing, and better than his last opponent.

Edit: would have been much better to have Parker - Makhmudov and Kean - Smakici...

Hell even this card sucks. I have always been a fan of the heavies and have not been able to excited for hardly any fights this year.
Please don't let me turn into that guy that says "back in my day"