Tory fvcking scumbags

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Liz Truss will blame the UK’s economic problems on “25 years of economic consensus” as she doubles down on the policy proposals that helped trigger financial turmoil and caused her to be ousted from Downing Street after just 49 days.

The former prime minister will give a speech at the Institute for Government on Monday, almost exactly a year since her government’s “mini-budget”, which caused the pound to crash and ultimately led to her downfall.

Speaking days after it emerged that the UK economy shrank by 0.5% in July, Truss will say the UK’s current economic problems are not her fault.

“I believe that the reason for the problems we have is the 25 years of economic consensus that have led us to this period of stagnation,” she will say, according to extracts from her speech briefed in advance. “And I believe it is vital that we understand that and shatter that economic consensus, if we are to avoid worse problems in the future.”

Truss will add: “Some say this is a crisis of capitalism – that free markets are responsible. But that’s not borne out by the facts. Quite the opposite is true. The fact is that since the Labour government was elected in 1997, we have moved towards being a more corporatist social democracy in Britain than we were in the 1980s and 1990s.”


in to remind everyone that Truss is a dangerous, entitled, unrepentant, unreconstructed KVNT and should be shot like a rabid dog.

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meanwhile self-confessed (supposed) 'centrists' gaze at their navel and pontificate above wokeness whilst the tory party gradually decides that if they get another chance, the Argentinian economic model is actually something to aspire to, they haven't yet fully embraced the project of wealth redistribution towards the wealthy and there is a long way to go before they reach peak 'boldness'.

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if anyone is too thick or too obtuse to understand what 'shatter the economic consensus' means I can provide an interpretation.

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I wonder why the original Tory Scumbags thread was deleted. It vanished but there was one below it in the list which is still there so it can’t be down to post inactivity

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Liz Truss will blame the UK’s economic problems on “25 years of economic consensus” as she doubles down on the policy proposals that helped trigger financial turmoil and caused her to be ousted from Downing Street after just 49 days.

The former prime minister will give a speech at the Institute for Government on Monday, almost exactly a year since her government’s “mini-budget”, which caused the pound to crash and ultimately led to her downfall.

Speaking days after it emerged that the UK economy shrank by 0.5% in July, Truss will say the UK’s current economic problems are not her fault.

“I believe that the reason for the problems we have is the 25 years of economic consensus that have led us to this period of stagnation,” she will say, according to extracts from her speech briefed in advance. “And I believe it is vital that we understand that and shatter that economic consensus, if we are to avoid worse problems in the future.”

Truss will add: “Some say this is a crisis of capitalism – that free markets are responsible. But that’s not borne out by the facts. Quite the opposite is true. The fact is that since the Labour government was elected in 1997, we have moved towards being a more corporatist social democracy in Britain than we were in the 1980s and 1990s.”


in to remind everyone that Truss is a dangerous, entitled, unrepentant, unreconstructed KVNT and should be shot like a rabid dog.

Jesus wept. You're right, somebody needs to take this looney tune out.

Tories bang on about 'the national interest' but this woman is exactly that. She's a danger not only to ordinary people but industry and commerce, finance capital, everything. She'd collapse the lot.

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not even kidding, I never have been, fvck me talk about 'silencing' Russell Fvcking Brand and they leave this knt to walk the streets scott-free. she's actually a far, far bigger threat to the capitalist system than Brand or anyone remotely like him could ever be.

in Putin's russia she'd just step a little bit too close to an open window and all would be fine

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and there is more

Liz Truss will call for the pension age to be raised, benefit spending to be slashed and green targets to be delayed in a fresh challenge to Rishi Sunak.

The 49-day disaster PM will warn the UK is in a "precarious position" at risk of a "downward spiral" as she demands extreme measures from No10. In a speech almost one year since her botched mini-Budget unleashed chaos, she will admit trying to "slaughter a pig" too fast as she hit out at some within her own party.

she even describes her own actions- with a rare moment of accidental self-awareness- as a bloody, messy process ending in certain death. i mean ffs 'slaughtered the pig too quickly', who even fvcking talks like that? YOU MADE PEOPLE'S MORTGAGES MORE EXPENSIVE YOU DUMB BITCH and the best she can come up with is some weak analogy about animal husbandry?

she is entirely off her tits, whatever screws she had that were tenuosly still in place were knocked loose by her humiliating tenure as PM< it's clearly made her have a breakdown, and she's come through the other side like a lot of people fresh out of rehab, all jacked up with her sense of mission, and like, she has to carry on because not to do so would mean admitting what a total inept fvcking failure she was and is and always fvcking will be.

Reflecting on last year's chaos, she will state: "Some people said we were in too much of a rush - and it is certainly true that I didn’t just try to fatten the pig on market day, I tried to rear the pig and slaughter it as well. I confess to that.

"But the reason we were in a rush was because voters wanted to see results, having already voted for change twice – in 2016 and 2019."


She said her plans to slash Corporation Tax, Income Tax and VAT were not unfunded, and claims if her policies had gone ahead they would have saved the UK over £35billion in two years.

And continuing her pattern of blaming others, she will say: “They weren’t implemented because there was a reaction from the political and economic establishment which fed into the markets – markets that were already destabilised by the Bank of England’s slowness to hike interest rates and the failure to regulate LDIs (liability driven investments). I was effectively forced into a policy reversal under the threat of a UK meltdown.”

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and the reason she is a threat is because there are actually enough within the tory party that her low tax fantasy is fvcking catnip, same for the tory members- though what they will think about her wanting to slash pensions is another matter

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Kwasi Kwarteng has said Liz Truss was “not wired” to be prime minister, as the former chancellor turned on his old boss on the anniversary of their mini-Budget disaster.

It comes as it emerged a radical “flat tax” that would have seen all workers pay only 20 per cent was considered for their autumn statement which sparked economic and political turmoil.

One year on from Ms Truss’s spree of unfunded tax cuts, the former PM is set to launch an astonishing attack on Rishi Sunak’s government – claiming it has spent £35bn more than she would have if she had remained at No 10.

The short-lived premier will use a speech on Monday to defend her time in charge, nearly a year on from the ill-fated mini-Budget that helped end her premiership after only six weeks.

In his most frank interview yet, Mr Kwarteng questioned Ms Truss’s temperament and claimed she would have “blown up” something – even if the pair had escaped the mess of the autumn statement.

“I love her dearly, she’s a great person, very sincere and honest,” he told the Telegraph’s political editor in a new book. “But if it hadn’t been the mini-Budget, she would have blown up on something else.”

The former chancellor added: “I just don’t think her temperament was right. She was just not wired to be a prime minister.”

this lot aren't fvcking fit to govern.

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It's freightening TBH.

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She's totally mental. Though maybe not as mental as Braverman, Badenoch, Anderson or Rees-Mogg.

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I think JRM is a cynical imposture and doesn't believe all of what he says, the rest of them I don't know. I suspect Anderson's act is every bit as cynical as JRM, just from the opposite side.

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It’s the ‘great noticing’, as rightwingers accept that ‘Britain is broken’. But their fixes won’t make it any better
Opinion by Nesrine Malik


Girl Who Boys Can’t Hear was a recurring character who featured on The Fast Show. She is a woman in the company of men who raises an intelligent solution to a problem, or makes an insightful observation, only to be ignored entirely. A few seconds after she has spoken, a man says something to the effect of “Oh I’ve got it!”, and repeats what she has said verbatim. The group of men immediately spring to agreement and admiration of his input. The woman then says: “Sorry, can any of you actually hear me?”


The sketch always raised a laugh even though you knew what was coming. What elevated it every time wasn’t the punchline, but the elaborate performance of the men – earnestly scratching their heads at the problem, studiously pretending to come up with an answer after the truth-telling woman has already given it, and then cheerfully bonding in the pleasure of one of them finding the solution. The past few weeks in news and political analysis have reminded me often of this performance. Suddenly, there is a lot of hearing of things that were previously said, just not by the right people. Britain, it appears, is broken.

Among those who now have got it is the Spectator, which last week ran a cover that declared “Broken Britain”, and offered its writers’ explanations for “what went wrong”. The magazine has been joined by others that are now also easy of hearing. Only a few days earlier, the Telegraph had told us that “Britain is broken – and nobody can be bothered to do anything about it”, then shortly after that “Broken Britain exudes dysfunctionality”. In the same period, the Sun’s Harry Cole looked hard at the tea leaves, and concluded that “there is a sense” that things are not working in the country at the moment. All around, rightwing journalists and publications who have cheered on and defended the government’s excesses and Brexit extremism for many calamitous years are now sorry to report, like Lucky Jim arising with a colossal hangover, that things are bad.

The realisation is abrupt, and so the onset of the problem must also have been pretty rapid. That’s why we are being told not only that things are bad, but that the problems have accelerated with astonishing speed. The timing for that acceleration seems to be the precise moment the joint Brexit/Boris Johnson project folded. “Roads, railways, schools, GP services, hospitals, airports, housing, borders, prisons and anything involving call centres,” the journalist Isabel Oakeshott tweeted. “All these things are broken in Broken Britain. The speed and depth of national decline is breathtaking.”

The “Great Noticing” is what some have coined it on Twitter – a new era when pointing out Britain’s problems is no longer “doing the country down”, or “sabotaging Brexit”, but a fresh realisation that must be communicated with appalled urgency. There can be no admission that Britian’s decline has a history, or that if it does, it must be very short indeed, starting perhaps with the hopeless Rishi Sunak, who has had the bad fortune of being the last one standing when the music stopped. The collapsing concrete in our schools, the sewage in the water, the NHS waiting lists, the expensive trains and poor service, these all must have come about at “breathtaking” speed. For it to have happened any slower than seemingly overnight would extend the decline’s roots to, well, everything – to austerity, to privatisation, to deregulation, and of course, to the very people who bet the farm on Brexit and Johnson, and now must make it clear that the problem wasn’t their poor judgment, but a sort of bad gambling streak that befell the nation.

But this new clarity about how it all went wrong is not just a cynical exercise in distancing from failure. Some things are genuinely being revealed to some for the first time. The pain has finally reached those who previously did not register the experiences of those living in mouldy social housing, queueing for food banks and sending their children to school hungry to seek scraps from dinner ladies. The decline didn’t intensify, it just expanded into a higher tax bracket. Inflation, higher interest rates and Liz Truss’s economic adventurism have been the trigger. Higher prices – of energy, mortgages, childcare, consumer goods, travel – are now lapping at the gates of those who had so far been ringfenced from the sort of government recklessness and dereliction that others have endured for years.

Another reason why things feel biblically doomy at the moment is a mysterious phenomenon known as the linear passage of time. The consequences of government policy do not become apparent overnight, but certainly begin to take shape over more than a decade. Bad concrete will not crumble the day after it has set. Defunding community centres and youth services does not turn those who needed them feral in a day, but transfers the burden of injured and vulnerable children to schools and hospitals. The sewage isn’t new, there’s just more of it, because when the budgets of monitoring bodies are reduced, water companies begin to get wise to the fact that they can start systematically releasing untreated sewage into the sea to cut costs. Every plague was not an act of God, but a human choice.

And here we are. By the time the consequences arrive they are so vast and systemic, that the only thing to do is sing the blues about Broken Britain. This is useful for everyone. Those on the right, braced for defeat, are now primed and prepared to carry their new complaint of a country that does not work to the doors of a Labour government. Labour, in turn, gets to simply point to the profound brokenness of things and how limiting that is to what it would like to achieve.

You will hear much more about broken Britain over the next few months and in the run-up to the next election. The difference this time, as opposed to when it was said by waves of striking workers, anti-austerity protesters in 2011 and 2015, victims of the Home Office, and whistleblowers in the police, fire service and NHS, is that it will be said by people who will be heard, because they will not demand that anything material should change. They will earnestly scratch their heads about how it came to this, engage in distracting rants about purging woke civil servants and peddle harebrained schemes such as bringing back national service.

At best, there will be appeals, even if the Tories are ousted, to support “sensible” fiscal and border policies with the hope of freezing the country at this level of broken, rather than smashing any more of it. It will all feel a little surreal, if it doesn’t already.

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still its reassuring that the tories still have their finger on the pulse of normal Brits.

apparently one of their 'thought leaders' is insistent that increasing the Inheritance Tax threshold will be a sure-fire election winner for them:

Raising the inheritance tax threshold to £1m could win the Tories next year’s general election – just like it did in 2010 – according to MPs.

Anthony Browne, who chairs the Backbench Treasury Committee, recalls the “huge political debate” over inheritance tax swirling back in 2009, a year before David Cameron beat Gordon Brown at the ballot box.

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She's totally mental. Though maybe not as mental as Braverman, Badenoch, Anderson or Rees-Mogg.

The whole lot are mental, any sensible ones were booted or left after Brexit. She started out as a Lib Dem which I find hillarous

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i believe i may have used the phrase myself, before:

Unfortunately for the Tories Liz Truss is the gift that keeps on giving

You’ve got to hand it to Liz Truss. Few politicians do shamelessness quite like her. Or turn lack of self-awareness into an art form. Imagine being everyone’s odds on favourite for the title of worst prime minister of all time. Worse even that David Cameron, Theresa May, Boris Johnson or Rishi Sunak. That would be enough to send most normal, sensate beings crawling under a stone for eternity.

But not our Liz. Almost exactly a year after her mini-budget crashed the economy, adding billions to the national debt and thousands to people’s mortgages, she’s back. And the prime minister who only lasted 49 days in the job before being humiliatingly forced to resign by her own party – hold that thought: too useless even for the Tories – wants us to know that she regrets nothing. She isn’t sorry for anything. She would do it all again in a heartbeat. Narcissism has been a trait of many recent prime ministers, but this is upping the delusional ante.

Still, there’s one thing no one can take away from her. She has at least advanced the cause of women in politics. Sort of. Not so long ago, women had to be twice as good as men to succeed to the top jobs in government. Truss has shattered that particular glass ceiling. She is living proof that a woman can now be every bit as useless as a man and still become prime minister. What a legacy. Admittedly May had nudged us in that direction, but Truss is an icon of incoherence.

Radon – “she’s a gas, but she’s inert” – Liz is a beacon for the brainless everywhere. Oxford should be rethinking its PPE course as we speak.

The relaunch took place at the offices of the Institute for Government in central London. Not generally known as a venue for comedy gigs but even a thinktank has to diversify these days. After a brief introduction from the IfG’s Hannah White, Radon Liz got started. Within seconds several people in the audience were beginning to nod off. Despite the excitement at not having heard from her in a year. It’s a rare talent to have a monotone delivery that can make Mogadon redundant. Maybe it’s the only way she can distance herself from the horrors of her own failure. What we have missed.

Why was she here, she asked. To be fair, something we were all asking ourselves. There hasn’t exactly been a national clamour for her return. The country is still recovering from PTSD. She definitely wasn’t keen to be back in Downing Street, she added. Hmm. Though she was keen to dispense her wisdom and give the country a second chance. Because what she had come to realise was that she had been right about absolutely everything all along. She alone understood how to grow the economy.

It went like this. Our debt levels were the highest they had ever been. And she should know because she had added to them to the tune of £45bn during her seven weeks in office. And 72% of people agreed the UK was now poorer than it had been. Again, she should know. Because few people had done more to bankrupt the country. But this was unfair, she insisted. Because her tax cuts had only ever been fiscal restraint in disguise. If only people had given her a chance, the country would now be well on the road to recovery.

That was just the beginning of the Truss fantasy. Because now she was asking us to believe that the entire political and economic establishment had been kidnapped by a socialist cabal sometime in the last 30 years and the UK had effectively been run by Moscow station for decades. The Office for Budget Responsibility and the Treasury? Communist sleeper cells dedicated to bringing down free market capitalism.

Even the Tory party had been taken over by the Reds who all went to the same London dinner parties and didn’t invite her. And the top double agent was none less than Rishi who had been recruited while at that well-known spy hotbed of Goldman Sachs. Radon Liz seemed to have forgotten she had been a Tory minister for most of the past 13 years and could have raised the alert then.

It all became increasingly deranged. She hadn’t consulted the OBR before the mini-budget as she knew they would give her the wrong information. Only she really understood the reality. She could have been a conspiracy theorist with her own YouTube channel. If she had made a mistake, which she hadn’t, then it was that she had tried to rush things through too quickly. But there had been no time to lose. The UK was on the brink of revolution. Not that she had ever wanted to remove Johnson. That had been the last thing on her mind. She had loved him even though he too was a socialist. He had been so right but so wrong. There had been no hurry after all. The way to capitalist nirvana was to get rid of Sunak, frack the hell out of the UK, forget net zero, slash benefits and cut taxes.

Weirdly there were a handful of believers in the crowd. Principally Nigel Farage and the increasingly absurd Lord Frost, along with some fanboys who tutted loudly whenever the media asked any challenging questions. Like none of this makes any sense and why can’t you just say sorry. Or say nothing. Ah, said Radon Liz. “I’m writing a book which will be out in April.” Then everything would be clear. Aagh. Not another book. We’ve only just recovered from Theresa’s. Truly, they spoil us.

But Truss was in no mood to back down. The Blob was everywhere and it had been out to get her. Hers was the path of righteousness. She would not be denied. Blessed was Trussonomics. We’d all come to regret not taking her more seriously. She couldn’t possibly have predicted the pensions crisis because she didn’t know anything about them. Again and again, she wasn’t sorry. Interest rates would have gone up anyway. So tough.

Nor was she going away. Even though that’s precisely what most Tories want her to do. To shut up and stop embarrassing herself and them. Reminding them that they can’t be trusted with the economy after all. Would she be going to the Tory party conference? Hell, yes. Personally I can’t wait. Radon Liz. The gift that keeps on giving.

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Truss and Kwarteng both are still so ineffably dense-stubborn to actually get it.
Even at the twelfth time of asking

Consensus actually works when it comes to the successful management of an economy and it also exists for a bloody good reason. Namely, government is only ever one senior member of the proverbial boardroom.

Industry, investors, banking, retailers, property and other major national economies all have seats at the same table and need to be convinced of the plan and treated as equal partners.

So do HMRC and the Treasury who are not remote from the markets or wider economy. Truss is so feckin thick she does not comprehend that the Treasury is essentially a borrower using a credit card.

She bemoans the fact that the Conservatives and Labour use the same economic levers but in different ways to fund different priorities.

Not actually realising that industry and investors will accept this variance in where spending ultimately goes but actually positively crave this degree of consistency in overall policy. If you can plan across governments it makes investing stable, predictable and worthwhile. Maybe - heaven forbid - even attractive.

What they did not want was a wrecking ball budget, for an economy still attempting to recover from Covid and Brexit with very some serious debts to already service, deciding that the necessary revenue too service those debts could be blatantly ignored because it was somehow going to get magically fixed at a later, but unspecified date via a huge spending boom and VAT jackpot.

That was not radical Conservative economics, but rather something bonkers and on the never-never from Italy or Greece in the late 1970s. We'll ignore all our spiralling debts and payment plans, actually we'll take in even far less revenue and then hope things come good with a boom which we hope will happen. HM Government's big pay-off cheque is (sorta) in the post

Frigging crazy, irresponsible economics and right from the fringe of the fringe.

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She genuinely believes she is a Thought Leader. It’s the most jarring cognitive dissonance I’ve ever seen, outside people posting gibberish on Internet forums.

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They don't call her Dim Lizzy for nothing

If Kid Starver is smart, which he's not, he should put more focus on her

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i fucken love it

A Boris Johnson ally has demanded a general election "now" in fury at Rishi Sunak weakening green pledges.

The Prime Minister is expected to row back on net zero policies in a major announcement in Downing Street at 4.30pm.

The move has split the Tories with outrage from the environmental wing of the party.

Tory peer Lord Goldsmith, who quit as environment minister in June with a scathing attack on Mr Sunak's climate "apathy", called for an immediate general election.

He said: "I have had 00s of messages from Conservative friends in Government, Parliament and around the world telling me this move by the PM vindicates my decision to noisily resign.

as if the Toy kvnts haven't got enough to hate each other and fight over, this rich entitled scumbag has decided to call for an election because they aren't keeping their promises on the environment and Green legislation

I mean, you've got the idiot squad lurching spastically to the right and throwing their performative teddies around about refugees and woke blobs and refugees and woke lawyers and anti-growth coalitions and refugees and refugees and refugees

but that isn't nearly enough for these chaotic simpletons, and for the entitled, attention-seeking smug posh knt Goldsmith.

and yeah, the hill he thinks the Tory party should die on is going to the country over the environment.

brilliant stuff.
also the environmental wing of the party. like yeah, there are that many tories that really really really take the environment seriously, they absolutely merit labelling as a whole entire 'wing' of the party

i think the use of the word may actually come because these people actually grow up in houses that have 'Wings'. and like drawing rooms and sh1t.

what a clown show

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Oops! Fisty's uploaded a private video to the thread. The dirty bugger!

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I don't believe in "net zero"

Time to get rid, nobody cares

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I don't believe in "net zero"

Time to get rid, nobody cares

Total Nonsense. Whilst we are still trading with companies like Brazil and China that don’t give a f about net zero. Cnts.

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Following politics in this country must be brutal, aren't you all in a constant fit of rage? I only really keep up with the big stories which I stumble upon and that's enough to make my blood boil