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Boxrec meet-up for the 2035 riots :yay:
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 08:55 Boxrec meet-up for the 2035 riots :yay:
Riots against the "woke" probably, with how politically illiterate swathes of the popuation are. RacistRicky leading the mob from his laptop.
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Jaguar wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 06:35
Counter-puncher wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 06:22 Yep, people here are pissed off because they're being exploited and dumped on from above all day every day, even if most of them don't know it. It just makes life so unpleasant, but It's not only London where people feel like that

I'd not really thought about an overall miserableness affecting the uK because of a perception we've been taken for a ride, but the more i think about it the more it makes sense and I agree, there is an inarticulacy to the miserableness where people aren't connecting the dots as to why they feel exploited and fvcked over, basically what the cause of it is. which is why the tories kept getting voted in, of course, when they should be getting strung up (literally)
I think that's right. We've been living through this shite for so long now that a lot of people just think it's normal. Yes, they're vaguely depressed about it, pissed off and generally alienated, frustrated/low-level angry.

But most folk don't realise that there is another way (well in fact several ways) and that life doesn't have to be like this.
Let's face it, there are now many countries in Europe where things work better, I'm not saying they are perfect, but their public infrastructure isn't falling to bits all over the gaff.
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Coco wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 04:34 Privatisation has done all this, public services have been outsourced, these carpetbaggers grab whoever for minimum wage and lo and behold the services are bad.

The system needs to change but both major parties, and the liberals are right behind it.
The vulture capitalists are already circling Birmingham, ready to swoop in and snatch up public sector assets at bargain basement prices.
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Teddy's Toupee wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 09:04
Boxerbeetle wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 08:55 Boxrec meet-up for the 2035 riots :yay:
Riots against the "woke" probably, with how politically illiterate swathes of the popuation are. RacistRicky leading the mob from his laptop.
Knock it off Teddy or you'll be going on your holidays again.
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Pretty much spent the whole day dealing with client's who are still incensed by Sunak's volte face.

They've accelerated spending, retrained people at great expense, closed down product lines they could have kept and which are now too expensive to reopen.

They've let suppliers go and now have agreements with deadlines-spend levels in place that are legally binding.

These are done deals, can't be reversed.....the money leaves the business. Which is pretty much what Ford said yesterday.

Have not come across such anger and disbelief for a while.

One client said that "silly cow Badenoch" has pretty much criss-crossed the Midlands automotive scene repeatedly lecturing all and sundry to "get yourselves ready for 2030, we're doing it so don't be late."

What sort of reception she gets now when her PR minders try to fix a publicity visit will be interesting to see.....she'll probably lucky to get into a Kwik-Fit.
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Bodyshot3 wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 14:22 Pretty much spent the whole day dealing with client's who are still incensed by Sunak's volte face.

They've accelerated spending, retrained people at great expense, closed down product lines they could have kept and which are now too expensive to reopen.

They've let suppliers go and now have agreements with deadlines-spend levels in place that are legally binding.

These are done deals, can't be reversed.....the money leaves the business. Which is pretty much what Ford said yesterday.

Have not come across such anger and disbelief for a while.

One client said that "silly cow Badenoch" has pretty much criss-crossed the Midlands automotive scene repeatedly lecturing all and sundry to "get yourselves ready for 2030, we're doing it so don't be late."

What sort of reception she gets now when her PR minders try to fix a publicity visit will be interesting to see.....she'll probably lucky to get into a Kwik-Fit.
It's exactly the same thing as they did for Brexit. Companies spent fortunes several years ago preparing for new trading rules which the Government still hasn't implemented. It shows, time and again, that you need people in Government who have had some experience in the real world and not career politicians who get parachuted into safe seats after several years managing a Hedge Fund or working for a Think Tank. They don't understand that when businesses are told to prepare for something they actually prepare for it, with all the concomitant costs that entails.
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So strange that all Tory scumbags are exclusive from Labour council denominated scumbags.
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the king of the non-sequitur strikes again :clap:
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:lol:
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Counter-puncher wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 03:11 the king of the non-sequitur strikes again :clap:
Must be SnM's turn on the computer at the hospice for the terminally confused.
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chinarich wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 15:44
Bodyshot3 wrote: 21 Sep 2023, 14:22 Pretty much spent the whole day dealing with client's who are still incensed by Sunak's volte face.

They've accelerated spending, retrained people at great expense, closed down product lines they could have kept and which are now too expensive to reopen.

They've let suppliers go and now have agreements with deadlines-spend levels in place that are legally binding.

These are done deals, can't be reversed.....the money leaves the business. Which is pretty much what Ford said yesterday.

Have not come across such anger and disbelief for a while.

One client said that "silly cow Badenoch" has pretty much criss-crossed the Midlands automotive scene repeatedly lecturing all and sundry to "get yourselves ready for 2030, we're doing it so don't be late."

What sort of reception she gets now when her PR minders try to fix a publicity visit will be interesting to see.....she'll probably lucky to get into a Kwik-Fit.
It's exactly the same thing as they did for Brexit. Companies spent fortunes several years ago preparing for new trading rules which the Government still hasn't implemented. It shows, time and again, that you need people in Government who have had some experience in the real world and not career politicians who get parachuted into safe seats after several years managing a Hedge Fund or working for a Think Tank. They don't understand that when businesses are told to prepare for something they actually prepare for it, with all the concomitant costs that entails.
Cummings and Co hollowed out the civil service, which let's face it, is where all the real expertise was, now its gone, the ability to implement change has been seriously damaged.
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Counter-puncher wrote: 22 Sep 2023, 03:11 the king of the non-sequitur strikes again :clap:
Well whether you like it or not it will keep coming back. Non sequitur or not.

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Cummings and Co hollowed out the civil service, which let's face it, is where all the real expertise was, now its gone, the ability to implement change has been seriously damaged.
Was happening well before catpiss Cummings mate.......

........very unfortunately Labour also had a hand in accelerating the special advisor class which was promoting a group of individuals who were unelected yet politically-driven and granting them special executive power to shortcut-override the civil service system.

It is one of the biggest failures-perversions of the modern British state.......

......an unelected and politically motivated executive tier lacking the specialist knowledge has been allowed to come into being and expand. Many are no more than base political hacks, yet wield huge influence without any kind of scrutiny,

They now prevent the civil service from offering good advice direct to ministers who badly need objective guidance.

I am reading Rory Stewart's stuff and it is all rather horrific; minister takes what they want to hear rather than what they actually need to hear :brick:
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I love that reported quote from Truss, on Stewart. She told him to ‘stop being interesting’, by which I infer she meant injecting some intellectual depth and context into the conversation or, at the very least, demonstrating that he actually possessed intellectual curiosity and analytic ability. Perish the thought. Stop being interesting, Rory, you make us all look bad.
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Bodyshot3 wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 14:06
Cummings and Co hollowed out the civil service, which let's face it, is where all the real expertise was, now its gone, the ability to implement change has been seriously damaged.
Was happening well before catpiss Cummings mate.......

........very unfortunately Labour also had a hand in accelerating the special advisor class which was promoting a group of individuals who were unelected yet politically-driven and granting them special executive power to shortcut-override the civil service system.

It is one of the biggest failures-perversions of the modern British state.......

......an unelected and politically motivated executive tier lacking the specialist knowledge has been allowed to come into being and expand. Many are no more than base political hacks, yet wield huge influence without any kind of scrutiny,

They now prevent the civil service from offering good advice direct to ministers who badly need objective guidance.

I am reading Rory Stewart's stuff and it is all rather horrific; minister takes what they want to hear rather than what they actually need to hear :brick:
Rory Stewart was one of the last sensible politicians left in the party. Where are you reading his stuff?
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:30
Bodyshot3 wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 14:06
Cummings and Co hollowed out the civil service, which let's face it, is where all the real expertise was, now its gone, the ability to implement change has been seriously damaged.
Was happening well before catpiss Cummings mate.......

........very unfortunately Labour also had a hand in accelerating the special advisor class which was promoting a group of individuals who were unelected yet politically-driven and granting them special executive power to shortcut-override the civil service system.

It is one of the biggest failures-perversions of the modern British state.......

......an unelected and politically motivated executive tier lacking the specialist knowledge has been allowed to come into being and expand. Many are no more than base political hacks, yet wield huge influence without any kind of scrutiny,

They now prevent the civil service from offering good advice direct to ministers who badly need objective guidance.

I am reading Rory Stewart's stuff and it is all rather horrific; minister takes what they want to hear rather than what they actually need to hear :brick:
Rory Stewart was one of the last sensible politicians left in the party. Where are you reading his stuff?
His new book, I imagine. I'm going to read it over the next few months - time permitting.
I quite like Rory. He's a decent man. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but you know with him that he's at least considered his position.
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Lenny Cravats wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:54
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:30
Bodyshot3 wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 14:06

Was happening well before catpiss Cummings mate.......

........very unfortunately Labour also had a hand in accelerating the special advisor class which was promoting a group of individuals who were unelected yet politically-driven and granting them special executive power to shortcut-override the civil service system.

It is one of the biggest failures-perversions of the modern British state.......

......an unelected and politically motivated executive tier lacking the specialist knowledge has been allowed to come into being and expand. Many are no more than base political hacks, yet wield huge influence without any kind of scrutiny,

They now prevent the civil service from offering good advice direct to ministers who badly need objective guidance.

I am reading Rory Stewart's stuff and it is all rather horrific; minister takes what they want to hear rather than what they actually need to hear :brick:
Rory Stewart was one of the last sensible politicians left in the party. Where are you reading his stuff?
His new book, I imagine. I'm going to read it over the next few months - time permitting.
I quite like Rory. He's a decent man. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but you know with him that he's at least considered his position.
Agreed, he seems a reasonable man, and intelligent and thoughtful, all reasons why he had no real support as a prospective leader.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:57
Lenny Cravats wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:54
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:30

Rory Stewart was one of the last sensible politicians left in the party. Where are you reading his stuff?
His new book, I imagine. I'm going to read it over the next few months - time permitting.
I quite like Rory. He's a decent man. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but you know with him that he's at least considered his position.
Agreed, he seems a reasonable man, and intelligent and thoughtful, all reasons why he had no real support as a prospective leader.
Voted for all the "austerity" cuts. Very reasonable.
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Teddy's Toupee wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 19:08
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:57
Lenny Cravats wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:54

His new book, I imagine. I'm going to read it over the next few months - time permitting.
I quite like Rory. He's a decent man. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but you know with him that he's at least considered his position.
Agreed, he seems a reasonable man, and intelligent and thoughtful, all reasons why he had no real support as a prospective leader.
Voted for all the "austerity" cuts. Very reasonable.
He would have been following the whip. It's part of party politics.
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In Braverman's latest gratuitous bid to be Cruellest Of The Tories, she has lashed out at the (apparent) hordes of refugee-immigrant-invaders who claim to be gay, simply in order to get asylum.

Home Office minister Chris Philp backed up Ms Braverman by saying some people are falsely claiming to be persecuted, claiming that “some people claim to be gay when they’re not”.

meanwhile, in a real world not inhabited by pseudo-populist frauds, debasing their own humanity and insulting our intelligence, in order to appeal to that fvcking stupid drooling fvcking Brexit spastic on here:

“The government’s own statistics suggest that only 2 per cent of all asylum claims in 2022 included sexual orientation as a reason for needing protection.”


but yeah, we can all see why it's important that she mentions all those many, many Fake Gays, isn't it? It's a really genuine, big issue. Really, it is.
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look, an immigrant, over there. And he isn't just an immigrant, but a gay one- and it gets worse! He isn't even a proper gay.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 26 Sep 2023, 02:47
Teddy's Toupee wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 19:08
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 25 Sep 2023, 17:57

Agreed, he seems a reasonable man, and intelligent and thoughtful, all reasons why he had no real support as a prospective leader.
Voted for all the "austerity" cuts. Very reasonable.
He would have been following the whip. It's part of party politics.
No excuse. If he had a conscience he could have at the very least abstained. Saying that, if he had a conscience he wouldn't have been a Conservative politician. It seems people still get suckered in by all that posh public schoolboy bloviating.
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i can't claim to be immune from accidentally halfway-liking these very-slightly-less-awful Tories just because they are very slightly less awful, its just the bar of my expectations is so low that if they display a faint scintilla of humanity they appear like Mother T herself, i totally get it.
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Counter-puncher wrote: 26 Sep 2023, 09:34 i can't claim to be immune from accidentally halfway-liking these very-slightly-less-awful Tories just because they are very slightly less awful, its just the bar of my expectations is so low that if they display a faint scintilla of humanity they appear like Mother T herself, i totally get it.
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