Benn v Orozco

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veriton
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Benn v Orozco

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Just watched this on catch-up on Dazn. Good performance from Benn against a very tough Mexican who had never been stopped before, and still hasn't.

However, was it case of a drug-free Benn not having the ability to hurt without the juice on his punches. He was hitting Orozco with full bloodied shots and only made a couple of dents. This was never even a point of debate for the commentary team, who must have been told not to mention anything to do with the failed tests.

Benn looked good here though, didnt seem too rusty, and got a good, hard 10 rounds in the bank.
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I anticipate a ton of speculation as to why Benn couldn’t get the stoppage, personally I’d say it had a lot to do with Orozco being hard as nails.

Whatever is happening with Benn’s career, that was a valuable nights work. Good job he was fit - he needed to be.
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agreed, it was a lot tougher an opponent I'd envisaged, obviously stepping up in weight the opponent is likely to hit harder. I'd watch the opponent again, he had an excellent chin.
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Orozco a tough game opponent after an 18 month or so lay off, brought pressure and had Benn on the back foot boxing for spells especially in the second half, although he was hurt once or twice he kept coming, whether it's lack of peds or inactivity which made Benn look a bit flat who knows, it's been done to death, like all drug cheats he fights on, i really cant be arsed hearing about it anymore, unless boxings gonna take some sort of stand against them all, what's the point, others move on so will he


All in all a good test for Benn and far better than Jorge Silva who Yarde blitzed last night
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Benn certainly came out firing , hit Orozco with some heavy shots that he weathered real good the mexican did look slow but he still manage to back Benn up quite regular , personaly don't think Bens going to go much higher level , they will be back to doorstop fights very shortly .

One thing i noticed has early has the second rnd , when Benn got clobbered with a good shot , he certainly went a bit wide eyed and looking at his corner ,, Orozco when he landed a good shot did'nt have the speed to follow it up

shove him in with boots i say we'll be shot of him then
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Do you think the whole fight was a bit rushed? Surely, would have been better to get Benn an easier nights work than that. Orozco looked a unit.

That aside, I think Benn should campaign at 147, he's too small for 154. Fully expect Eubank to do a number on him if they fight at 160, might be interesting for 2 rounds.
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First post egg performance wasn't really all that was it. Don't forget this guy is being pimped as a PPV superstar.

Benn was pretty banged up as well. I don't fancy his chances at 160 against Eubank.
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I think Matchroom has put far too many eggs in the Benn basket. The relationship between Benn's team and Matchroom is unnatural.

If the Eubank Jnr fight happens, they'll make a few quid, sure, but when they add up all the grief, reputational damage etc, I can't see how it will have been worth it for them.

Hearn reckons the cancellation alone cost them £1 million. I'd love to have a look at the Benn/Matchroom balance sheet because on the back of my fag packet, they've lost a lost a ton of dough on him so far. The determination to claw this back through one fight, which needs to be staged in the UK, is looking a bit desperate.

Ultimately, DAZN have paid for this. The hours spent trying to defend the indefensible would have been better spent promoting other fighters. They should have told Hearn to cut their losses after the failed test.
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Twinkle Toes wrote: 24 Sep 2023, 07:39 First post egg performance wasn't really all that was it. Don't forget this guy is being pimped as a PPV superstar.

Benn was pretty banged up as well. I don't fancy his chances at 160 against Eubank.
Still might happen though , Benn did'nt excatly shine mexican seemed tough , his resume is good but not excatly full of killers and demons , Benn could'nt get him out there but more importantly it did show Benn definetly does'nt belong with the elite , I think now he's warmed up , they know what thev'e only got 2 pair not 4 of a kind now , Hearn will probably be looking to cash out and get his return sooner than later .

One fight i'd like to see is Benn --- Tim Tzyu think that would be a cracker with Benn looking very dangerous to Tim early doors it would tell the world a lot about Tim has well , then win or lose shove Benn in with BOOTS for the big cashout , when Boots destroys him
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Tzsyu and Ennis would muller Benn but I don't think he will beat the eliminator level required to get the fights unless Hearn stumps up a barrel of cash to get him a shot.
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Ben fought a very good fight. He moved around well and landed some heavy shots. Took a few left hooks in the later rounds and showed he had a chin.

The opponent had never fought out of Mexico and was really basic, throwing that straight hand all night, but on paper had a massed a good record.

Great matchmaking from Eddie, he can now say that Benn beat a Mexican KO puncher in the U.S and rebuild him :OhYes:
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If you take away all the controversy it was a good performance and a good tough opponent for first fight in 18 months or whatever it was, that's nearly as long as your average PBC fighter

Wouldn't mind seeing Orozco again
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World no. 211 Orozco proved a tough test for Benn.
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A lot of the guys Benn was blowing away early were blown up 140lbers and this guy while limited was a big 154 guy.

Definitely you can see why there are weight divisions. Stepping up 1 is possible but for someone like Benn stepping up to fight Eubank at 160 ain’t ending well.
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I think Eddie must be pretty pissed off with Benn by now, which might explain why he put him straight into such a hard fight back after 18 months. The guy was huge durable as hell and could seemingly punch. They looked a different weight division
Sink or swim matchmaking
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he definitely answered the questions in this performance, excellent fight too.
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Absolutely no serious mainstream media coverage of this. Thats no accident.
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samwbr wrote: 24 Sep 2023, 08:49 Tzsyu and Ennis would muller Benn but I don't think he will beat the eliminator level required to get the fights unless Hearn stumps up a barrel of cash to get him a shot.
Ennis would murder Benn , Tim don't know really , What i would love to see is Tim completly and utterly destroy Benn , but really i'm not so sure he would do it , for me Tims next fight is really gonna show us where he is
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tim is vastly he improved, he'd beat benn
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944517 wrote: 24 Sep 2023, 08:57 Ben fought a very good fight. He moved around well and landed some heavy shots. Took a few left hooks in the later rounds and showed he had a chin.

The opponent had never fought out of Mexico and was really basic, throwing that straight hand all night, but on paper had a massed a good record.

Great matchmaking from Eddie, he can now say that Benn beat a Mexican KO puncher in the U.S and rebuild him :OhYes:
Absolutly perfect matchmaking , it got Benn back out there , don't know how they can come up with guys like this , slow , not a real good boxer , ranked i read of another poster 211 , but yet a good record , good ko resume yet could'nt really hurt Benn , and too slow to follow up when he did land a decent dig ,, all in all it gave the public a reasonable fight , got Benn moving , with a very very small chance of Benn losing , but appearing to be a real 50-50 fight ,, Benns looking at his corner whenever he got tagged like a sheep in the headlights would certainly worry me if he was to fight a top teir guy .

Going to be interesting what they do with Benn now , after the up coming bragging and boasting he's gonna do about beating a tough mexican puncher , you would think they would have to step him up , something i think they will be reculant to do , or do they use this win to go get a cash out get your money back fight .

Thing is Benn i just cannot see becoming a draw card in the states , he's just not good enough in that division , and the UK is still out of bounds for him . Eddie will be scratching his head on what to do
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It’s an elaborate con this Benn is basically a C list fighter. If his surname was smith nobody would care about him at all.

They’ll cash him out v Eubank and then Kell which is probably all they have planned. Talk of world level fights is insane he’s nowhere near that level. Avanesyan would batter Benn and look what happened to him at world level.
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