this will be interesting, available on Spotify now
Adam's right. Delay announcing the fight until as late as possible and there's very little chance of a PED cheat getting caught.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 09:58
by jamesmcdonnell
It's absolutely rife.
It's no coincidence that fighters are peaking I'm their mid to late 30s.
30 years ago, fighters were considered over the hill at 30.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 10:57
by TheLeprechaun
I believe 99% of people in boxing are doping or facilitating doping. Everyone claims to be the 1% that isn't doing it...
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 11:26
by jameswilson
I can remember David Haye taking a fairly long amount of time out between Macarinelli and his next fight at heavyweight. Posted a few pictures of himself absolutely jacked to fu ck in the gym part way through this period.
Obviously pure coincidence.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 11:32
by polecateddy
It does seem a bit ironic considering there's little chance Haye was or is natural.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 11:38
by Monzon83
polecateddy wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 11:32
It does seem a bit ironic considering there's little chance Haye was or is natural.
Juiced to the gills, the roid rage alone was obvious.
They’re all at it.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 11:43
by Nightmare Roy
I'd guess the vast majority of the top level fighters are on it.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 11:54
by TheLeprechaun
polecateddy wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 11:32
It does seem a bit ironic considering there's little chance Haye was or is natural.
It's all about opinions but I'd agree 100%. Then theres the question of whether Adam Booth wasn't in on it or at the very least didn't have the intellect to see what was going on. Again, it's all about opinions - which we are all entitled to - and my view is that I'm not going to be mugged off by these people speaking out like this about doping. It's only going to make me even more suspicious.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 12:11
by Monzon83
Adam trained Haye, he’s got some front talking about doping..
What’s next Evander talks about gaining 30 pounds of muscle with vitamins?
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 12:30
by Controversial
Do you think Haye was on stuff to bulk up? He didn't add that much weight, he was weighing in over 200lbs for some fights when he was CW a few years before he officially moved to HW.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 12:36
by SeanBrennan
Monzon83 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 12:11
Adam trained Haye, he’s got some front talking about doping..
What’s next Evander talks about gaining 30 pounds of muscle with vitamins?
came on here to say pretty much the same thing. 180lbs ish naturally, weighs up to 220lbs with less bodyfat, nice natural 3 stone muscle gain from eating shark meat and doing squats aye.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 12:56
by polecateddy
Monzon83 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 12:11
Adam trained Haye, he’s got some front talking about doping..
What’s next Evander talks about gaining 30 pounds of muscle with vitamins?
Wasn’t it Lee Haney, the former Mr Olympia, in charge of that Holyfield bulk up! Lol and later growth hormone for a Mr Fields intercepted in the post! Im sure Haye was acutely aware of what he needed to do to move to heavyweight. pEDs aren’t just bulking it massively improves recovery and work load
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 13:01
by margaret thatcher
few fans legitmately care about doping either, they are so selective about when they feign concern. all depends whether they like the guy or not
loved fighters like holyfield, mosley, morales, roy jones jr.............all ped users
we have guys continually chewing out egg salad benn for his ped use, while fanboing for boar balls fury
lulz
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 15:09
by Steveh583
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 10:57
I believe 99% of people in boxing are doping or facilitating doping. Everyone claims to be the 1% that isn't doing it...
agreed
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 10:57
I believe 99% of people in boxing are doping or facilitating doping. Everyone claims to be the 1% that isn't doing it...
agreed
I don't believe it's 99% but it is definitely rife.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 15:57
by polecateddy
I’ll reserve judgement.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 16:25
by SeanBrennan
polecateddy wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 15:57
Sometimes it’s fairly obvious, like Vasiliy Lomachenko getting roughed up in his admittedly hard debut, but then any so called weakness was quickly corrected in future fights. For natural people such rapid transformations are impossible. I think British boxers has its fair share of stand out amateurs that end up getting overpowered in the pro game. 99% does seem high, but I’d wager more or less 99% of world ranked heavyweights are on something! Early career Joshua - geez! How many times did Whyte get caught just trying to keep up!
your position on 99% of world ranked HWs, is a very reasonable supposition, I can well imagine.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 16:29
by CaptainSpacerod
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 13:01
few fans legitmately care about doping either, they are so selective about when they feign concern. all depends whether they like the guy or not
loved fighters like holyfield, mosley, morales, roy jones jr.............all ped users
we have guys continually chewing out egg salad benn for his ped use, while fanboing for boar balls fury
lulz
Good point and I’m certainly guilty as charged.
I’d make a moral stand of refusing to fork out for a Benn Eubank ppv yet I’d happily pay the asking price for Fury Usyk even though I know that Benn and Fury are equally guilty
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 20:52
by JamesPhilips
LOL at Booth whingeing about doping when his biggest fighter was a massive PED abuser
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 21:26
by lookingaround87
polecateddy wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 15:57
Sometimes it’s fairly obvious, like Vasiliy Lomachenko getting roughed up in his admittedly hard debut, but then any so called weakness was quickly corrected in future fights. For natural people such rapid transformations are impossible. I think British boxers has its fair share of stand out amateurs that end up getting overpowered in the pro game. 99% does seem high, but I’d wager more or less 99% of world ranked heavyweights are on something! Early career Joshua - geez! How many times did Whyte get caught just trying to keep up!
Do you mean Loma against Salido? That wasn't his debut, it was his second fight and he didn't get 'roughed up' due to superior skill on Salido's part, he got low-blow'd. Salido is a tough fight for anyone. I don't see how that exposes your weaknesses. The vast majority of people thought Loma won, too.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 22:17
by Redback Rasta
Larry Olubummo did a podcast interview with Tris Dixon recently and admits to taking performance enhancing drugs from his very first fight. That he is a qualified chemist was very helpful too.
Olubamiwo knows drugs and knows cheating and said these days if you take the right stuff, the right way, you really shouldn't be getting caught. He said the best approach is to use substances that your body naturally produces like EPO, testosterone and growth hormone.
Olubamiwo says testing authorities don’t test between 11pm and 6am, and that if you micro dose with EPO, testosterone and growth hormone after 11pm, by 6am it won’t be detectable in your system anymore.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 20 Oct 2023, 07:59
by polecateddy
Redback Rasta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2023, 22:17
Larry Olubummo did a podcast interview with Tris Dixon recently and admits to taking performance enhancing drugs from his very first fight. That he is a qualified chemist was very helpful too.
Olubamiwo knows drugs and knows cheating and said these days if you take the right stuff, the right way, you really shouldn't be getting caught. He said the best approach is to use substances that your body naturally produces like EPO, testosterone and growth hormone.
Olubamiwo says testing authorities don’t test between 11pm and 6am, and that if you micro dose with EPO, testosterone and growth hormone after 11pm, by 6am it won’t be detectable in your system anymore.
Hello UKAD, are you reading this? That’s probably exactly what a lot of sportspeople are doing, not just in boxing. Guarantee you’d be fornicating up your body in the long term but perhaps you gain an edge.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 20 Oct 2023, 08:01
by jwfg
I really enjoyed the interview.
Re: Adam Booth - I’ve lost faith in boxing, it’s just TOO EASY to dope
Posted: 20 Oct 2023, 08:07
by Spud
jwfg wrote: ↑20 Oct 2023, 08:01
I really enjoyed the interview.