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Just reading an article where Benn is saying that, that fight was his hardest fight of all and thinking back it was truly a magnificent fight. Of course it had tragic consequences for Gerald that may have taken the shine away from it.

Apart from what people think of the G-Man, we know his history etc so let's not bare on those facts but as a fight how do you rate that particular fight and how can it be compared to any other fight of that calibre? Also in terms of that fight where would you put it in all time fights involving a British boxer?

I’d rate it very very low. Benn should have been stopped early and was helped out with shady reffing. Then we got to see Mclellan deteriorate physically in front of our eyes while Nigel did his job and smashed him into permanent disability.

I find people who enjoy this fight in particular to be disturbing.

not a fight I wish to view. Although I understand you get 20 seconds to get back in if knocked out the ring, Benn was out 13 seconds. I may be wrong on this rule though.

I’m completely at a crossroads on this.
Sorry. McClellan destroyed Benn in round 1.
Benn was as game as f*k. But let’s be honest here!

Poor old McClellan doing all that blinking and nobody picked up on what that may mean.

I wouldn't watch it again

Unbelievable fight on the night, absolute war, but obviously very uncomfortable viewing with hindsight. Hard to really rate properly given the consequences of it all.

Best fight I've ever seen

Explosive fight, as Brit and Londoner. it was special.

Obviously, the aftermath was saddening, as we are all human but that fight, the fight itself, was one of the best I've seen.

As a young Londoner, watching Nigel, especially is his early days, was always electric. Such a powerful, fast, slugger back then.

Being there, in Finsbury Park (up the road from me, back then) for the Watson - Benn fight , the London rivalry and amazing atmosphere was also a stunning experience.

It's 20 seconds if a boxer is on the arena floor-not the ring apron.

rabbit punches

polecateddy wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 17:01 Poor old McClellan doing all that blinking and nobody picked up on what that may mean.

People tend to blame it solely on punches to the back of the head on purpose, let's not forget, Benn himself was a banger and G Man had two fights where he was touched up by Julian Jackson, flush, over and over again. He wasn't defensively adept because he never had to be due to ironing everyone out. It's a sad ending to a fight. You can't take flush shots from hitters like that, it'll take something away from you. Gerald looked damaged even before the fight started

I was just watching the McClellan/Jackson fights this weekend. I never noticed it before but at the end of the first fight he was doing that blinking. Jackson did land some big shots in that first fight.

polecateddy wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 17:01 Poor old McClellan doing all that blinking and nobody picked up on what that may mean.

If you watch the first McClellan Jackson fight Gerald was blinking in the same way, during and after the fight.

Benn was dirty in that fight but its also over examined due to the the outcome. It goes on all the time. The horrific injuries and noteriety of the fight means its been forensically examined, although the lunging headbutt could have caused some of the damage.

CBS was punching the back of the head the other night, nothing much been said.

Imagine if any of Josh Warringtons opponents ever come to grief, ppl will want him up for manslaughter.

Fury loves an elbow or a rabbit punch.

wrighty wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 21:15

polecateddy wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 17:01 Poor old McClellan doing all that blinking and nobody picked up on what that may mean.

People tend to blame it solely on punches to the back of the head on purpose, let's not forget, Benn himself was a banger and G Man had two fights where he was touched up by Julian Jackson, flush, over and over again. He wasn't defensively adept because he never had to be due to ironing everyone out. It's a sad ending to a fight. You can't take flush shots from hitters like that, it'll take something away from you. Gerald looked damaged even before the fight started

I don't think Jackson landed a punch in the 2nd fight but he landed a fair few in the first which McClellan walked through. The rabbit punches were shameful and shouldn't have been allowed. The referee was well out of his depth. I don't blame Benn for fighting for his life - we all remember Bruno holding and hitting Tyson repeatedly in round 1 and as much as the referee screamed at him to stop, I think he was running on adrenaline going in there with Mike and the same for Benn who was expected to get launched out of the ring as he did, and stopped sharpish. You need a referee in there stopping the fight and having a word with a guy fouling. Not letting the guy commit probably hundreds of rabbit punches. I haven't counted but I'd say there were well over a hundred with Benn trying to get as much leverage into the rabbit punches as possible. They hurt and are dangerous. I always found it funny how Ali would complain to the refs at his opponents fouling and do exaggerated expressions but it made it obvious to everyone and the ref was compelled to take action. Failing that, Ali would take matters into his own hands.

The reason everyone has started to notice the blinking of McClellan in the Jackson fight is because of my video that first pointed it out. It was viewed by around a million ppl before my youtube channel was deleted due to copyright infringements, but heres the original video.



I've since made another video addressing all the accusations against Nigel Benn.



It's unlisted due to copyright but this link should work. I answer the accusations about the rabbit punches, the long count, the ref rescuing Benn, the headbutt and the steroid accusation. I also include extra info on my belief that Julian Jackson started the brain bleed, and I include info previously unknown about Benn's 'shadow on the brain' after the fight.

si7dog7 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 16:51 I’m completely at a crossroads on this.
Sorry. McClellan destroyed Benn in round 1.
Benn was as game as f*k. But let’s be honest here!

You couldn't be more wrong.

Watch my video that deals with all accusations aimed at Benn including the nonsense long count. Benn was back in the ring after 9.5 seconds of real time, and in boxing the ref's ten count isn't an exact 10 seconds, its usually actually 14 seconds in real time. And in real time Benn was back in at 9.5 seconds according to my stop clock, starting from his back hitting the canvas after he fell through the ropes up until both his feet are back in the ring and on the canvas. The ref had gotten to 8-9 so gave a good count and the ITV doc made a lot out of stuff that wasn't controversial. They say Benn shouldn't have had 20 seconds as he didn't fall off the ring apron, yet the ref only got to 8-9 so where did this 20 seconds nonsense come from? It's irrelevant what he thought was the rule if he hadn't started counting ten and beyond. Benn was in before the ten count. Had the ref gotten to 13 before he got back in, then yes the rule would've been broken and Benn would actually have been counted out, but the ref got to 8 or 9 so it's a moot point.

Here's my video, I use a lot of footage to back up my points and the last video I made on McClellan got around a million views and seems to have changed ppls views on who gave him the brain issues, I touch on that in more detail in my new video.

goose 5 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 20:17 It's 20 seconds if a boxer is on the arena floor-not the ring apron.

Why are you mentioning a 20 count??? Seems the ITV doc has brainwashed you.

Benn was back in the ring after 9.5 seconds of real time, and in boxing the ref's ten count isn't an exact 10 seconds, its usually actually 14 seconds in real time. And in real time Benn was back in at 9.5 seconds according to my stop clock, starting from his back hitting the canvas after he fell through the ropes up until both his feet are back in the ring and on the canvas. The ref had gotten to 8-9 so gave a good count and the ITV doc made a lot out of stuff that wasn't controversial. They say Benn shouldn't have had 20 seconds as he didn't fall off the ring apron, yet the ref only got to 8-9 so where did this 20 seconds nonsense come from? It's irrelevant what he thought was the rule if he hadn't started counting ten and beyond. Benn was in before the ten count. Had the ref gotten to 13 before he got back in, then yes the rule would've been broken and Benn would actually have been counted out, but the ref got to 8 or 9 so it's a moot point.

Watch this

dapug wrote: ↑14 Dec 2023, 14:05

polecateddy wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 17:01 Poor old McClellan doing all that blinking and nobody picked up on what that may mean.

If you watch the first McClellan Jackson fight Gerald was blinking in the same way, during and after the fight.

You musta seen my video from a couple years ago



This is my updated one

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 16:41 not a fight I wish to view. Although I understand you get 20 seconds to get back in if knocked out the ring, Benn was out 13 seconds. I may be wrong on this rule though.

Incorrect, Benn was in at the count of 8 or 9, 20 second count is irrelevant

FloydD wrote: ↑14 Dec 2023, 13:34 I was just watching the McClellan/Jackson fights this weekend. I never noticed it before but at the end of the first fight he was doing that blinking. Jackson did land some big shots in that first fight.

I mentioned it a few years ago in this video



and updated it in this video recently

1328613 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 16:38 I’d rate it very very low. Benn should have been stopped early and was helped out with shady reffing. Then we got to see Mclellan deteriorate physically in front of our eyes while Nigel did his job and smashed him into permanent disability.

I find people who enjoy this fight in particular to be disturbing.

Stop your whining and watch this, it totally wipes out your argument

Sparring Tommy Hearns at a very young age, 16 I think, probably wasn't good for McClellan's health, nor the first fight with Jackson when he took some blockbuster punches. Had gym wars with Toney etc as well.

dr_devious wrote: ↑21 Dec 2023, 19:39 Sparring Tommy Hearns at a very young age, 16 I think, probably wasn't good for McClellan's health, nor the first fight with Jackson when he took some blockbuster punches. Had gym wars with Toney etc as well.

I was gonna say that, he had zero defence and sparred killers in Kronk gym wars