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Bulgarian Kubrat Pulev to Fight German Mahmoud Charr for WBA Regular Heavyweight Title

Bulgarian boxer Kubrat Pulev will fight German Mahmoud Charr, previously known as Manuel Charr, for the WBA (World Boxing Association) regular heavyweight title, American sportswriter Dan Rafael said. The news was confirmed by the teams of both boxers on Friday. The fight will take place in March in Sofia, but the exact date and venue are yet to be announced.

Charr is defending his WBA regular heavyweight title belt, which is not as prestigious, as the WBA super heavyweight title, which is currently held by Ukraine's Oleksandr Usyk since September 2021. The 39-year-old Charr has 38 fights in the professional ring, in which he has 34 wins (20 by knockout) and four defeats.

Kubrat Pulev, who is 42 years old, has 33 fights as a professional boxer (30 wins - 14 by knockout, and 3 losses).

An absolute crock of sh*t

I've got nothing against charr`s record which is pretty decent but he's done nothing for years and for some utterly corrupt reasons is given a toilet bauble.

As for pulev he's just lingering like a bad smell as well

Not sure why anyone takes this seriously.

giacomino wrote: ↑12 Jan 2024, 19:43 Not sure why anyone takes this seriously.

well not a serious fight only a time waster for two heavyweights. i will watch if this even gets a united state broadcast.

mikebourkefan wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 00:57

giacomino wrote: ↑12 Jan 2024, 19:43 Not sure why anyone takes this seriously.

well not a serious fight only a time waster for two heavyweights. i will watch if this even gets a united state broadcast.

I should have clarified. I meant as a title fight. Charr is 39 and hasn’t fought a warm body in more than six years. Pulev is 42 but will probably beat him unless he’s totally shot.

giacomino wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 03:55

mikebourkefan wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 00:57

giacomino wrote: ↑12 Jan 2024, 19:43 Not sure why anyone takes this seriously.

well not a serious fight only a time waster for two heavyweights. i will watch if this even gets a united state broadcast.

I should have clarified. I meant as a title fight. Charr is 39 and hasn’t fought a warm body in more than six years. Pulev is 42 but will probably beat him unless he’s totally shot.

This is not a title fight, plain and simple. There are only two champions - Usyk and Fury, no any other "champions".

omalley wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 06:34

giacomino wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 03:55

mikebourkefan wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 00:57 well not a serious fight only a time waster for two heavyweights. i will watch if this even gets a united state broadcast.

I should have clarified. I meant as a title fight. Charr is 39 and hasn’t fought a warm body in more than six years. Pulev is 42 but will probably beat him unless he’s totally shot.

This is not a title fight, plain and simple. There are only two champions - Usyk and Fury, no any other "champions".

I don’t disagree but the WBA does, and these poor knuckleheads are having to pay a fee for an nonsense alphabet belt. Neither one will ever come within 500 miles of Usyk or Fury, which adds to the farcical nature of the whole thing

manny charr unbeaten in wba title fights

no blueprint

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 16:53 manny charr unbeaten in wba title fights

no blueprint

Yes he is

giacomino wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 13:16

omalley wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 06:34

giacomino wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 03:55

I should have clarified. I meant as a title fight. Charr is 39 and hasn’t fought a warm body in more than six years. Pulev is 42 but will probably beat him unless he’s totally shot.

This is not a title fight, plain and simple. There are only two champions - Usyk and Fury, no any other "champions".

I don’t disagree but the WBA does, and these poor knuckleheads are having to pay a fee for an nonsense alphabet belt. Neither one will ever come within 500 miles of Usyk or Fury, which adds to the farcical nature of the whole thing

This is not a title fight. The WBA champion is Usyk. Full stop.
Usyk and Fury will fight for the Undisputed championship. There are no any other "champions", no other "belts".

omalley wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 19:26

giacomino wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 13:16

omalley wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 06:34
This is not a title fight, plain and simple. There are only two champions - Usyk and Fury, no any other "champions".

I don’t disagree but the WBA does, and these poor knuckleheads are having to pay a fee for an nonsense alphabet belt. Neither one will ever come within 500 miles of Usyk or Fury, which adds to the farcical nature of the whole thing

This is not a title fight. The WBA champion is Usyk. Full stop.
Usyk and Fury will fight for the Undisputed championship. There are no any other "champions", no other "belts".

Ruthless wrote “ defending his WBA regular heavyweight title belt.” So the WBA is considering it an alphabet title fight. Of course it’s a fake belt.

I agree with your sentiment. Hell, I hate when people say “XX is a three-division world champion” when they actually won one of four belts in each division, often times in set-ups against guys brought in to lose. (I still remember theWBO let Jorge Acre beat up the same Indonesia guy twice for belts at 115 and 118).

It is the difference between “alphabet belt-holder” and “world champion,” like Monster or Crawford for instance, who unified their belts and are legit world champions.

giacomino wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 04:51

omalley wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 19:26

giacomino wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024, 13:16
I don’t disagree but the WBA does, and these poor knuckleheads are having to pay a fee for an nonsense alphabet belt. Neither one will ever come within 500 miles of Usyk or Fury, which adds to the farcical nature of the whole thing

This is not a title fight. The WBA champion is Usyk. Full stop.
Usyk and Fury will fight for the Undisputed championship. There are no any other "champions", no other "belts".

Hell, I hate when people say “XX is a three-division world champion” when they actually won one of four belts in each division

OK, let's count to four. WBA+WBO+IBF - Usyk. WBC - Fury. There are no any other "belts" and "belt-holders".

giacomino wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 04:51 It is the difference between “alphabet belt-holder” and “world champion”

“alphabet belt-holder” for the WBA is Usyk.

omalley wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 05:06 OK, let's count to four. WBA+WBO+IBF - Usyk. WBC - Fury. There are no any other "belts" and "belt-holders".
“alphabet belt-holder” for the WBA is Usyk.

Usyk also has the IBO and RING belts.
Fury is also the lineal champion.
Usyk is the WBA Super champion.
Manuel Charr is the WBA 'Regular' champion.

SteveO wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 15:09

omalley wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 05:06 OK, let's count to four. WBA+WBO+IBF - Usyk. WBC - Fury. There are no any other "belts" and "belt-holders".
“alphabet belt-holder” for the WBA is Usyk.

Usyk also has the IBO and RING belts.
Fury is also the lineal champion.
Usyk is the WBA Super champion.
Manuel Charr is the WBA 'Regular' champion.

Oh, and you have forgotten Zhilei Zhang, who is the WBO interim "champion".
In reality, Zhilei Zhang has some WBO thing, but he is not the WBO champion. Usyk is the one and only WBO champion.
Mahmoud Charr has some WBA thing, but he is not the WBA champion. Usyk is the one and only WBA champion.
When WBA (WBO) is trying to say that they have two HW champions, it's blatantly brazen fraud.
Similarly, for example, at SMW there is undisputed champion Saul Alvarez, who has WBA, WBO, IBF, WBC belts. It means, by definition of undisputed champion, that there are no other champions at SMW.
David Morrell has some WBA thing, but he is not the WBA champion at SMW.
David Benavidez has some WBC thing, but he is not the WBC champion at SMW.

Sad, but true. Just saying it like it is though.

This will tell us which one is closer to retiring. Not much point to it.

Unrelated: I always think it would've been cool to get a 4-man tournament between Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, and Ortiz in their primes.

Lackeos wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 04:50 This will tell us which one is closer to retiring. Not much point to it.

Unrelated: I always think it would've been cool to get a 4-man tournament between Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, and Ortiz in their primes.

Or just get the top fighters to fight each other

If Fury wins next month and vacates all belts, this is for the real WBA world championship.
Pulev needs to win this. He will be 43 in may and will cash in soon to defend the belt. So it will end up with someone who is an actual contender sooner than later.
If Charr keeps it, he might avoid defending it for another 6 years. In 2017 he beat Ustinov to win this “regular” belt and hasn’t had a title defense till this day.

JonnyKupfer wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 08:19 If Fury wins next month and vacates all belts, this is for the real WBA world championship.

Yes, it would be shameful. But that's not going to happen. The Saudis have other plans.

JonnyKupfer wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 08:19 If Fury wins next month and vacates all belts, this is for the real WBA world championship.
Pulev needs to win this. He will be 43 in may and will cash in soon to defend the belt. So it will end up with someone who is an actual contender sooner than later.
If Charr keeps it, he might avoid defending it for another 6 years. In 2017 he beat Ustinov to win this “regular” belt and hasn’t had a title defense till this day.

First defence will be Bakole. Pulev vs Bakole is actually a reasonable fight, despite Pulev's age. Bakole should then be looking at a proper top 15 guy. It's a shame it would be another year before that happens.

joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 08:52 First defence will be Bakole.

We don't know for sure. It's the WBA, everything is possible.
And first of all, there is no defence. Usyk is the one and only WBA champion by now, and his defense will take place soon.

omalley wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 09:13

joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 08:52 First defence will be Bakole.

We don't know for sure. It's the WBA, everything is possible.
And first of all, there is no defence. Usyk is the one and only WBA champion by now, and his defense will take place soon.

It's a belt and it's a defence. It's not a significant belt but it is one. There's loads of ridiculous WBA, WBC, WBO, IBO and IBF belts along with multiple versions of regional belts. They're all belts, as pointless as they are. They're just not world champs.

joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 10:25

omalley wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 09:13

joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 08:52 First defence will be Bakole.

We don't know for sure. It's the WBA, everything is possible.
And first of all, there is no defence. Usyk is the one and only WBA champion by now, and his defense will take place soon.

It's a belt and it's a defence. It's not a significant belt but it is one. There's loads of ridiculous WBA, WBC, WBO, IBO and IBF belts along with multiple versions of regional belts. They're all belts, as pointless as they are. They're just not world champs.

It's no more a "belt" than WBA INTERNATIONAL, or WBA INTERCONTINENTAL, or WBA GOLD, whatever.
Yes, they are not world champs, so who cares about so-called "defence". There are two champions, Usyk and Fury, no more.
Charr vs Pulev is just an ordinary boxing match at HW, and not a good one.

omalley wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 11:03

joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 10:25

omalley wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 09:13
We don't know for sure. It's the WBA, everything is possible.
And first of all, there is no defence. Usyk is the one and only WBA champion by now, and his defense will take place soon.

It's a belt and it's a defence. It's not a significant belt but it is one. There's loads of ridiculous WBA, WBC, WBO, IBO and IBF belts along with multiple versions of regional belts. They're all belts, as pointless as they are. They're just not world champs.

It's no more a "belt" than WBA INTERNATIONAL, or WBA INTERCONTINENTAL, or WBA GOLD, whatever.
Yes, they are not world champs, so who cares about so-called "defence". There are two champions, Usyk and Fury, no more.
Charr vs Pulev is just an ordinary boxing match at HW, and not a good one.

An ordinary boxing match which the winner will likely have to face a mandated and probably decent opponent. Which is why it can be interesting. Not at all bothered about the belt but if you can have an interesting matchup where someone pays to get some scrap placed around their waist at the end then who cares?

joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 12:04

omalley wrote: ↑19 Jan 2024, 11:03 Charr vs Pulev is just an ordinary boxing match at HW, and not a good one.

An ordinary boxing match which the winner will likely have to face a mandated and probably decent opponent. Which is why it can be interesting. Not at all bothered about the belt but if you can have an interesting matchup where someone pays to get some scrap placed around their waist at the end then who cares?

1. I don't consider Charr/Pulev vs Bakole as an interesting matchup.
2. Moreover, I'm very skeptical that even this will happen. The winner will likely have to face a mandated opponent? I don't buy it. It's the WBA, everything is possible.