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Nikolai Valuev vs Michael Grant
Posted: 25 Jan 2024, 16:48
by Joson
12 rounds, each guy in his respective prime. Who wins and why?
This one's hard to call, but I somehow sense that Valuev wins, although I can't say how. I do think Grant would give a good account of himself.
Re: Nikolai Valuev vs Michael Grant
Posted: 26 Jan 2024, 02:23
by Vlad
Grant would won by UD but he would be a robbed.Valuev by controversial decision.
Re: Nikolai Valuev vs Michael Grant
Posted: 26 Jan 2024, 05:48
by EdwardRevolver1993
That's actually a fascinating fight. I don't have an immediate opinion on this one, to be honest. This is the case where I'll sit back and read what people think.
Re: Nikolai Valuev vs Michael Grant
Posted: 26 Jan 2024, 05:57
by EdwardRevolver1993
P.S. That said, I'm tempted to pick Valuev on points. I think, Grant definitely had the tools and the size to compete (and to win) here. He also could actually hurt Valuev. But I don't remember who said this about Grant. That was something along lines - "People around Grant believed in him more than he believed in himself".
If we take those aforementioned words into account - he could make Valuev better (in his own mind) than Valuev actually was. And not that Valuev sucked. We spoke about it here recently - the Giant could box some. But Grant, for some reason, could be unsure of himself. Maybe, because of Valuev' size and etc.
Also, Grant could be outboxed (Golota fight).
Re: Nikolai Valuev vs Michael Grant
Posted: 26 Jan 2024, 16:27
by Joson
EdwardRevolver1993 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 05:57
P.S. That said, I'm tempted to pick Valuev on points. I think, Grant definitely had the tools and the size to compete (and to win) here. He also could actually hurt Valuev. But I don't remember who said this about Grant. That was something along lines - "People around Grant believed in him more than he believed in himself".
If we take those aforementioned words into account - he could make Valuev better (in his own mind) than Valuev actually was. And not that Valuev sucked. We spoke about it here recently - the Giant could box some. But Grant, for some reason, could be unsure of himself. Maybe, because of Valuev' size and etc.
Also, Grant could be outboxed (Golota fight).
I remember Grant was regarded as an up-and-coming fighter who'd someday dominate the division. In 1999 he sparred with the Klitschko brothers, and got the better of them or held his own. That's what I read in one of the boxing magazines covering the brothers' US visit that year.
Re: Nikolai Valuev vs Michael Grant
Posted: 26 Jan 2024, 18:07
by EdwardRevolver1993
Joson wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 16:27
EdwardRevolver1993 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2024, 05:57
P.S. That said, I'm tempted to pick Valuev on points. I think, Grant definitely had the tools and the size to compete (and to win) here. He also could actually hurt Valuev. But I don't remember who said this about Grant. That was something along lines - "People around Grant believed in him more than he believed in himself".
If we take those aforementioned words into account - he could make Valuev better (in his own mind) than Valuev actually was. And not that Valuev sucked. We spoke about it here recently - the Giant could box some. But Grant, for some reason, could be unsure of himself. Maybe, because of Valuev' size and etc.
Also, Grant could be outboxed (Golota fight).
I remember Grant was regarded as an up-and-coming fighter who'd someday dominate the division. In 1999 he sparred with the Klitschko brothers, and got the better of them or held his own. That's what I read in one of the boxing magazines covering the brothers' US visit that year.
That's interesting. Always fascinating to revisit such nuances.
Re: Nikolai Valuev vs Michael Grant
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 13:49
by scorpio83
Either Grant take a decision somewhere in America or Valuev would outbox him in Germany to take a decision or stopping him late.