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The_Don1 wrote: ↑09 Feb 2024, 18:42 I would think they would be paid a fee and utilised as people who have existing contacts in the sport, with instructions as to the level and quality of opponent they are sourcing for for the home fighter. No ITK knowledge there, but would seem plausible to me.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 10:50 They operate in a couple of ways.

Some freelance and work on a fee per show.

Some promoters have an in house matchmaker, who may well be on a salary and match every show that promoter stages.

FW had Ernie Fossey working for him for years. Another well know matchmaker was Dean Powell (was at Panix in the 90’s). RIP both.

John Ingle was good back then as well.

I’m out of touch on the modern day matchmakers. I presume they still have to be licensed by the Board.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 10:50 They operate in a couple of ways.

Some freelance and work on a fee per show.

Some promoters have an in house matchmaker, who may well be on a salary and match every show that promoter stages.

FW had Ernie Fossey working for him for years. Another well know matchmaker was Dean Powell (was at Panix in the 90’s). RIP both.

John Ingle was good back then as well.

I’m out of touch on the modern day matchmakers. I presume they still have to be licensed by the Board.

si7dog7 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 11:19

Frostieballs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 10:50 They operate in a couple of ways.

Some freelance and work on a fee per show.

Some promoters have an in house matchmaker, who may well be on a salary and match every show that promoter stages.

FW had Ernie Fossey working for him for years. Another well know matchmaker was Dean Powell (was at Panix in the 90’s). RIP both.

John Ingle was good back then as well.

I’m out of touch on the modern day matchmakers. I presume they still have to be licensed by the Board.

Met Dean at York Hall a couple of times. A lovely unassuming guy. Had lovely talks with him RIP absolutely. Knew the game inside out.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 18:13

si7dog7 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 11:19

Frostieballs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 10:50 They operate in a couple of ways.

Some freelance and work on a fee per show.

Some promoters have an in house matchmaker, who may well be on a salary and match every show that promoter stages.

FW had Ernie Fossey working for him for years. Another well know matchmaker was Dean Powell (was at Panix in the 90’s). RIP both.

John Ingle was good back then as well.

I’m out of touch on the modern day matchmakers. I presume they still have to be licensed by the Board.

Met Dean at York Hall a couple of times. A lovely unassuming guy. Had lovely talks with him RIP absolutely. Knew the game inside out.

ah, great that you met him.

Coco wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 18:52

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 18:13

si7dog7 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 11:19

Met Dean at York Hall a couple of times. A lovely unassuming guy. Had lovely talks with him RIP absolutely. Knew the game inside out.

ah, great that you met him.

Classy bloke was Dean, everyone liked him

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 18:13

si7dog7 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 11:19

Frostieballs wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 10:50 They operate in a couple of ways.

Some freelance and work on a fee per show.

Some promoters have an in house matchmaker, who may well be on a salary and match every show that promoter stages.

FW had Ernie Fossey working for him for years. Another well know matchmaker was Dean Powell (was at Panix in the 90’s). RIP both.

John Ingle was good back then as well.

I’m out of touch on the modern day matchmakers. I presume they still have to be licensed by the Board.

Met Dean at York Hall a couple of times. A lovely unassuming guy. Had lovely talks with him RIP absolutely. Knew the game inside out.

ah, great that you met him.

JackGlad wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 20:11 Late to the party but I’m a Matchmaker full time I know of 3 ways people might get paid.

1. Per fight normally you have set price I have 2 prices 8 rounds and under or 10 rounds + set fees but sometimes you are offered more for a TV fight.

2. Set fee per show regardless of amount of fights you get same fee.

3. Monthly wage like a normal job but this is mostly just TV Matchmakers.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:40

JackGlad wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 20:11 Late to the party but I’m a Matchmaker full time I know of 3 ways people might get paid.

1. Per fight normally you have set price I have 2 prices 8 rounds and under or 10 rounds + set fees but sometimes you are offered more for a TV fight.

2. Set fee per show regardless of amount of fights you get same fee.

3. Monthly wage like a normal job but this is mostly just TV Matchmakers.

thanks for posting Jack, really appreciated. Is it an enjoyable role? Must rely a lot on managing relationships. Sounds extremely interesting.

JackGlad wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 19:20

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑12 Mar 2024, 16:40

JackGlad wrote: ↑11 Mar 2024, 20:11 Late to the party but I’m a Matchmaker full time I know of 3 ways people might get paid.

1. Per fight normally you have set price I have 2 prices 8 rounds and under or 10 rounds + set fees but sometimes you are offered more for a TV fight.

2. Set fee per show regardless of amount of fights you get same fee.

3. Monthly wage like a normal job but this is mostly just TV Matchmakers.

thanks for posting Jack, really appreciated. Is it an enjoyable role? Must rely a lot on managing relationships. Sounds extremely interesting.

It’s a fun job but stressful particularly as I don’t have a normal job outside Boxing I have no one in Boxing I won’t work with if there’s money in it for us both never understand people who let it get personal.
When you start out you have to earn trust and respect but I have the balance pretty much down now and know what most managers are about.

Coco wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 18:52

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024, 18:13

si7dog7 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2024, 11:19

Met Dean at York Hall a couple of times. A lovely unassuming guy. Had lovely talks with him RIP absolutely. Knew the game inside out.

ah, great that you met him.

Classy bloke was Dean, everyone liked him

jonp wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 17:24 https://boxrec.com/en/matchmaker/456384?offset=0

Been matching since before what it says on boxrec,started around 2006 I think. Quite a few shows missing off there as well. Id say its over 300 now.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 18:14

jonp wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 17:24 https://boxrec.com/en/matchmaker/456384?offset=0

Been matching since before what it says on boxrec,started around 2006 I think. Quite a few shows missing off there as well. Id say its over 300 now.

how do you find matchmaking Jon? It is enjoyable? How does it compare to your other aspects of boxing mate?

jonp wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 18:22

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 18:14

jonp wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 17:24 https://boxrec.com/en/matchmaker/456384?offset=0

Been matching since before what it says on boxrec,started around 2006 I think. Quite a few shows missing off there as well. Id say its over 300 now.

how do you find matchmaking Jon? It is enjoyable? How does it compare to your other aspects of boxing mate?

Its a neccesary evil. Changed a lot, Lots of new matchmakers came in during and after covid and basically messed a lot of things up. For example didnt realise foriegn opponents got less wages to cover flights hotels etc and just started making matches with same wages as uk wages, only to be told what about the flights and hotels. Then the foriegn boxers refused to come for less creating huge issues with budgets. Also make a lot of silly matches made, because they want to keep the trainer happy, not realising a new road warrior if he gets chinned 3 times out of his first 4 is going to retire.
Now we are at a stage where not enough away guys, as theyv been over matched and retired or been suspended and the foriegn agents know people people when desperate will pay what ever they ask, so they hold it too ransom and over charge.
Me personally I would rather put a bout off until the next show than pay a stupid fee, but the trouble is a lot of the new guys are just desperate to keep the promoters and trainers happy so pay too much and make daft matches.

Apart from that its great lol

jonp wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 18:22

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 18:14

jonp wrote: ↑13 Mar 2024, 17:24 https://boxrec.com/en/matchmaker/456384?offset=0

Been matching since before what it says on boxrec,started around 2006 I think. Quite a few shows missing off there as well. Id say its over 300 now.

how do you find matchmaking Jon? It is enjoyable? How does it compare to your other aspects of boxing mate?

Its a neccesary evil. Changed a lot, Lots of new matchmakers came in during and after covid and basically messed a lot of things up. For example didnt realise foriegn opponents got less wages to cover flights hotels etc and just started making matches with same wages as uk wages, only to be told what about the flights and hotels. Then the foriegn boxers refused to come for less creating huge issues with budgets. Also make a lot of silly matches made, because they want to keep the trainer happy, not realising a new road warrior if he gets chinned 3 times out of his first 4 is going to retire.
Now we are at a stage where not enough away guys, as theyv been over matched and retired or been suspended and the foriegn agents know people people when desperate will pay what ever they ask, so they hold it too ransom and over charge.
Me personally I would rather put a bout off until the next show than pay a stupid fee, but the trouble is a lot of the new guys are just desperate to keep the promoters and trainers happy so pay too much and make daft matches.

Apart from that its great lol