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Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 08:33
by jwfg
If so, who?
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 14:20
by Caractacus
I think Archie Moore had said that Joe Gans was the best boxer.
( although he never saw him in person of course)
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 17:41
by bwu
Harry Greb.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 15 Feb 2024, 19:43
by nickcat0
How can we know? Unless you're about 150 years old, you haven't seen all the contenders, and can't accurately judge it.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 08:48
by Seamus
I think he can realistically be rated anywhere between 1 and 5. And that's pretty impressive.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 11:40
by elmersalsa
I don't think that the great Sugar Ray Robinson was #1. As a matter of fact, I think that he was the most overrated fighter in boxing history.
He was a great boxer. But not #1 in my view.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 11:53
by Crease
Years and years ago, there was a very strong contingent on here who all backed Homicide Hank as the being the best ever... The notion does seem to have died down somewhat.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 14:09
by gilgamesh
Seamus wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 08:48
I think he can realistically be rated anywhere between 1 and 5. And that's pretty impressive.
Same.
You're splitting hairs really between which number you assign to whom in the guys that are all time Top 5.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 16:13
by elmersalsa
Crease wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 11:53
Years and years ago, there was a very strong contingent on here who all backed Homicide Hank as the being the best ever... The notion does seem to have died down somewhat.
I still believe that Henry is the best.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 16 Feb 2024, 16:55
by Crease
elmersalsa wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 16:13I still believe that Henry is the best.
That's fair, I have him at number two. What he achieved is really unthinkable these days, cleaning out three divisions...
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 09:10
by jwfg
elmersalsa wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 16:13
Crease wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 11:53
Years and years ago, there was a very strong contingent on here who all backed Homicide Hank as the being the best ever... The notion does seem to have died down somewhat.
I still believe that Henry is the best.
Too many losses in his prime to be #1 IMO.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 14:35
by Ambling Alp II
There was only one and that was against a great fighter who was in a heavier weight class.
His list of wins is as good as anyone. It's really hard to compare boxers in different weight classes, but Robinson has to be right there.
Re: Does Any Poster Not Have SRR As #1 P4P?
Posted: 17 Feb 2024, 15:36
by elmersalsa
jwfg wrote: ↑17 Feb 2024, 09:10
elmersalsa wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 16:13
Crease wrote: ↑16 Feb 2024, 11:53
Years and years ago, there was a very strong contingent on here who all backed Homicide Hank as the being the best ever... The notion does seem to have died down somewhat.
I still believe that Henry is the best.
Too many losses in his prime to be #1 IMO.
He made up for it with some extraordinary prowess, unbeaten streaks and unbelievable achievements that have never been done in boxing history.