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Which fighter did you expect more from …

I will name some…

Kirkland Laing
David Haye
Billy Joe Saunders
Chris Eubank Jr


Please feel free to disagree or add names

Frankie Gavin .

Kell Brook

Probably Haye from that list. After his non performance against Vlad, his career just petered out. I feel he underachieved.

Josh Kelly
Buatsi

rd350lc wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 13:54 Frankie Gavin .

I remember Frankie …. Top fighter who simply didn’t live the life

Monzon83 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:04 Probably Haye from that list. After his non performance against Vlad, his career just petered out. I feel he underachieved.

Injuries totally f*cked him deeply frustrating

Spud wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 13:35 Which fighter did you expect more from …

I will name some…

Kirkland Laing
David Haye
Billy Joe Saunders
Chris Eubank Jr


Please feel free to disagree or add names

Sorry Spud. Kirkland Laing?
Probably over achieved


David Haye?
Ridiculous multiple weight World Champion.

Billy Joe?
World Champion?

Eubank Jr?
What were you expecting, seriously?

Nonsense.
You really need to stop these vague post openings.
I’m worried you’re turning into another Doufus

Naz Hamed

He scythed his way through the level just down from elite with the promise of more to show .. unfortunately all he then demonstrated was the different levels between being very good and elite.

si7dog7 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:24

Spud wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 13:35 Which fighter did you expect more from …

I will name some…

Kirkland Laing
David Haye
Billy Joe Saunders
Chris Eubank Jr


Please feel free to disagree or add names

Sorry Spud. Kirkland Laing?
Probably over achieved


David Haye?
Ridiculous multiple weight World Champion.

Billy Joe?
World Champion?

Eubank Jr?
What were you expecting, seriously?

Nonsense.
You really need to stop these vague post openings.
I’m worried you’re turning into another Doufus

I will enter into debate with you …

David Haye underachieved he could have done so much more if it wasn’t
For Injuries

Spud wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:32

si7dog7 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:24

Spud wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 13:35 Which fighter did you expect more from …

I will name some…

Kirkland Laing
David Haye
Billy Joe Saunders
Chris Eubank Jr


Please feel free to disagree or add names

Sorry Spud. Kirkland Laing?
Probably over achieved


David Haye?
Ridiculous multiple weight World Champion.

Billy Joe?
World Champion?

Eubank Jr?
What were you expecting, seriously?

Nonsense.
You really need to stop these vague post openings.
I’m worried you’re turning into another Doufus

I will enter into debate with you …

David Haye underachieved he could have done so much more if it wasn’t
For Injuries

I can debate all day.
What did you expect Spud?


Seriously?
A guy who won an amateur World medal
3 of 4 of the Cruiserweight belts.
A small heavyweight who won a version of the title.

You expected more?

I can go on all night.

Once David won the title his longevity in the sport looked very promising only to be blighted by injury just before the Klitschko fight

And calm down Si …. I am merely creating debate

Spud wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:46 Once David won the title his longevity in the sport looked very promising only to be blighted by injury just before the Klitschko fight

Expectations tho
He was a smaller guy up against giants.
No wonder his body broke down.

I couldn’t really denigrate his career and say I expected more. Over achieved in my book.

Bad example Spud.

Easy. Audley Harrison. After seeing him in the Olympics I was telling everyone he’d dominate at heavyweight as a pro.

rd350lc wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 13:54 Frankie Gavin .

this.

And Conlan.

And Richard Towers, a very random one but I thought with his stature he could have at least rebounded from Browne and been a good domestic fighter.

Pele Reid.

Boy did Brendan make a believer out of me, I was convinced he was going to be a world heavyweight champ.

Kilburn wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 15:55 Pele Reid.

Boy did Brendan make a believer out of me, I was convinced he was going to be a world heavyweight champ.

me too, his name was really cool and as he'd beaten Klitschko in kick boxing I presumed he'd be ace. Wonder what he is up to these days.

maverick23 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:54 Easy. Audley Harrison. After seeing him in the Olympics I was telling everyone he’d dominate at heavyweight as a pro.

Yeah you’d have to be an idiot to think that…..

jameswilson wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 17:26

maverick23 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:54 Easy. Audley Harrison. After seeing him in the Olympics I was telling everyone he’d dominate at heavyweight as a pro.

Yeah you’d have to be an idiot to think that…..

I am an idiot, I bought his autobiography after the Olympics and thought he would win everything!

Pat Barrett

I loved watching Black Flash as he had the equaliser; a punch that could turn a fight at any moment. He went to Italy and completely flattened Calamiti for the Euro title during a period when a lot of British fighters went there and got frustrated by the stinking style that Italian fighters used.
I thought he could achieve a world title but eventually came up against an even more frustrating fighter in WBO champ Manning Galloway (anyone remember the 1 page ads Galloway used to have about himself in Boxing Outlook?) and just couldn't get near him.
I think around that time, light-welter and welterweight had champions of the likes of Chavez, Brown, Taylor, Blocker, Coggi...so it may well have been the most likely option but wasn't to be.

After watching Herol Graham fighting growing up, I thought he was nailed on for a world title

si7dog7 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:49

Spud wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:46 Once David won the title his longevity in the sport looked very promising only to be blighted by injury just before the Klitschko fight

Expectations tho
He was a smaller guy up against giants.
No wonder his body broke down.

I couldn’t really denigrate his career and say I expected more. Over achieved in my book.

Bad example Spud.

No it’s not a bad example.

There is no one who is was further up David’s a*se than me

I had what I considered realistic expectations of what he was going to and thus a totally one sided win against Audlley, a nightmare loss against kilt, and a ok win Against Chisora followed by 2 training camps and 2 pullouts for a Fury fight ….

Then a shot to bits David losing against Bellew told me David could achieved a lot more.,..

Coco wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 18:31 After watching Herol Graham fighting growing up, I thought he was nailed on for a world title

Ack, such a talent. To have to face the likes of McCallum and Jackson for world titles though, ffs.
He was unlucky against Brewer, just too late in his career.

Spud wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:32

si7dog7 wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 14:24

Spud wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 13:35 Which fighter did you expect more from …

I will name some…

Kirkland Laing
David Haye
Billy Joe Saunders
Chris Eubank Jr


Please feel free to disagree or add names

Sorry Spud. Kirkland Laing?
Probably over achieved


David Haye?
Ridiculous multiple weight World Champion.

Billy Joe?
World Champion?

Eubank Jr?
What were you expecting, seriously?

Nonsense.
You really need to stop these vague post openings.
I’m worried you’re turning into another Doufus

I will enter into debate with you …

David Haye underachieved he could have done so much more if it wasn’t
For Injuries

Not just injuries....

Although a magnificent physical specimen he didnt live the life all the time.

took some opponents for granted (CAT)

Was only going to beat the world class big heavyweights if he used his biggest assets, speed and power. He didnt jump on Wlad, if he did then the result could have been different.

We cant knock what he achieved at Cruiser

We can knock what he achieved at Heavy, He was kind of gifted a world title against the hairy and immobile Valuev, then some gifted defences v Ruiz etc

If Haye had lived the life his body would not have caught up with him. A fully functioning Haye would absolutely cleaned Bellews clock for him.

What went wrong with Frankie Gavin?

Tony Doherty