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British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 14:36
by Spud
My revised list

1 Lennox Lewis
2 Bob Fitzsimmons
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Randolph Turpin
5 Ted Kid Lewis
6 Naseem Hamed
7 Ricky Hatton
8 Carl Froch
9 AJ
10 Tyson Fury

Please feel free to rip into my list😝

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:03
by si7dog7
Spud wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 14:36 Whats your top 10 All time Uk greats

Will the winner of AJ & Tyson deserve a place if they ever meet ?

1 Ted Kid Lewis
2 Bob Fitzsimmons
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Randolph Turpin
5 Lennox Lewis
6 Ken Buchanan
7 Ricky Hatton
8 Chris Eubank Snr
9 Naseem Hamed
10 Nigel Benn
Ted “Kid” Lewis’ best wins Spud?
You not got The cobra on there either from your Hennessy days when you called Joe C. Calslappy.

I got Lloyd Honeyghan in there. Benn is not top 10.

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:24
by SeanBrennan
oooh loving this question/topic, nice one Spud. My top 10 is based on my stupid biased and ill informed stance on boxing (always get the caveats in first!) and as follows:

- Joe Calzaghe (not a contentious choice)
- Lennox Lewis (again will likely be in many people's top 10s)
- Naseem Hamed - grew up watching him
- Carl Froch - apparently once fought in front of 80,000 at Wembley but has never mentioned it
- Johnny Nelson - 7 year reign as WBO champ
- Chris Eubank - grew up watching him, so ignoring all those dodgy wins he got
- Nigel Benn - as above and did win a WBC title instead of the WBOs ones UK boxers seemed to hog in 90s
- Dennis Andries - seemed to win the WBC title 450 times
- Ricky Hatton - apparently there's only one Ricky Hatton.
- Tyson Fury - despite all the nonsense, 2 time HW champ who has held all the belts

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:25
by SeanBrennan
I've already changed my mind :)

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:32
by si7dog7
In my view Sean. Best of British

Lennox
Honeyghan
Calzaghe
Froch (how is he not in the list ffs!)
Turpin. (Coz he fought the guvna Sugar)
Buchanan
McGuigan
Haye
John H Stracy
Conteh. (Thought a prime Conteh was magnificent)

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:37
by SeanBrennan
si7dog7 wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:32 In my view Sean. Best of British

Lennox
Honeyghan
Calzaghe
Froch (how is he not in the list ffs!)
Turpin. (Coz he fought the guvna Sugar)
Buchanan
McGuigan
Haye
John H Stracy
Conteh. (Thought a prime Conteh was magnificent)
Si you've made my list look well rubbish!

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:38
by SeanBrennan
I missed Haye off and included Nelson even though Haye unified the CW and won a version of HW title! Ban me!

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:41
by coneye
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:38 I missed Haye off and included Nelson even though Haye unified the CW and won a version of HW title! Ban me!
OK ,, Your Banned :lol: :lol:

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:47
by si7dog7
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:37
si7dog7 wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:32 In my view Sean. Best of British

Lennox
Honeyghan
Calzaghe
Froch (how is he not in the list ffs!)
Turpin. (Coz he fought the guvna Sugar)
Buchanan
McGuigan
Haye
John H Stracy
Conteh. (Thought a prime Conteh was magnificent)
Si you've made my list look well rubbish!
Nah mate
Your list is great

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:47
by KiwiRider
coneye wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:41
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:38 I missed Haye off and included Nelson even though Haye unified the CW and won a version of HW title! Ban me!
OK ,, Your Banned :lol: :lol:
He's fine, and probably still bitter from 'Toegate' like most people :lol:

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:51
by SeanBrennan
coneye wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:41
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:38 I missed Haye off and included Nelson even though Haye unified the CW and won a version of HW title! Ban me!
OK ,, Your Banned :lol: :lol:
arrrrrr! Coneye ya monster

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 16:51
by SeanBrennan
si7dog7 wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:47
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:37
si7dog7 wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:32 In my view Sean. Best of British

Lennox
Honeyghan
Calzaghe
Froch (how is he not in the list ffs!)
Turpin. (Coz he fought the guvna Sugar)
Buchanan
McGuigan
Haye
John H Stracy
Conteh. (Thought a prime Conteh was magnificent)
Si you've made my list look well rubbish!
Nah mate
Your list is great
cheers Si

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 18:17
by Spud
si7dog7 wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:03
Spud wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 14:36 Whats your top 10 All time Uk greats

Will the winner of AJ & Tyson deserve a place if they ever meet ?

1 Ted Kid Lewis
2 Bob Fitzsimmons
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Randolph Turpin
5 Lennox Lewis
6 Ken Buchanan
7 Ricky Hatton
8 Chris Eubank Snr
9 Naseem Hamed
10 Nigel Benn
Ted “Kid” Lewis’ best wins Spud?
You not got The cobra on there either from your Hennessy days when you called Joe C. Calslappy.

I got Lloyd Honeyghan in there. Benn is not top 10.
I have changed my mind already and its going tobe controversial… i originally chose Lewis but his record when put under review doesn’t warrant him being no 1

Plus I too canot believe Carl Froch is not in there he is now. He takes chris eubanks place

I am also swapping Joe Calzaghe and Lennox Lewis

But gents how does Honeyghan get in ?

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 18:22
by dr_devious
Jimmy Wilde tops the list

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 18:41
by SeanBrennan
Spud wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 18:17
si7dog7 wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:03
Spud wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 14:36 Whats your top 10 All time Uk greats

Will the winner of AJ & Tyson deserve a place if they ever meet ?

1 Ted Kid Lewis
2 Bob Fitzsimmons
3 Joe Calzaghe
4 Randolph Turpin
5 Lennox Lewis
6 Ken Buchanan
7 Ricky Hatton
8 Chris Eubank Snr
9 Naseem Hamed
10 Nigel Benn
Ted “Kid” Lewis’ best wins Spud?
You not got The cobra on there either from your Hennessy days when you called Joe C. Calslappy.

I got Lloyd Honeyghan in there. Benn is not top 10.
I have changed my mind already and its going tobe controversial… i originally chose Lewis but his record when put under review doesn’t warrant him being no 1

Plus I too canot believe Carl Froch is not in there he is now. He takes chris eubanks place

I am also swapping Joe Calzaghe and Lennox Lewis

But gents how does Honeyghan get in ?
I have also changed my mind Spud, your initial list was better than mine don't worry.

Regarding Honeyghan, I think the manner of his unexpected victory lives long in the memory. I also like him vacating a belt based on the sanctioning body's stance on apartheid. That shows guts to me. He was also one of the first British fighters to regain a world title. He also wore really cool hats.

Did you ever meet Joe C when you were in boxing? He's one of my heroes hence me being nosey.

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 18:44
by SeanBrennan
dr_devious wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 18:22 Jimmy Wilde tops the list
I never include fighters this long ago just because I know so little about them. Which is probably wrong and lazy. His resume is amazing. Good shout Devious.

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 18:51
by stujones
Ummm yes Jimmy Wilde

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 19:07
by Spud
David Haye?
Barry Mcguigan??
Duke Mckenzire??
Josh Taylor??

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 19:43
by Coco
The CAT
Maurice Hope
Alan Minter
Terry Downes
Freddie Mills
Charlie Magri
Howard Winstone
Freddie Welsh
Jim Watt
Amir Khan
Kell Brook

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 20:02
by SeanBrennan
Coco wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 19:43 The CAT
Maurice Hope
Alan Minter
Terry Downes
Freddie Mills
Charlie Magri
Howard Winstone
Freddie Welsh
Jim Watt
Amir Khan
Kell Brook
who is the CAT - Carl Thompson?

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 20:14
by Coco
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 20:02
Coco wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 19:43 The CAT
Maurice Hope
Alan Minter
Terry Downes
Freddie Mills
Charlie Magri
Howard Winstone
Freddie Welsh
Jim Watt
Amir Khan
Kell Brook
who is the CAT - Carl Thompson?
The one and only

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 20:14
by Coco
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 18:41
Spud wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 18:17
si7dog7 wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 16:03
Ted “Kid” Lewis’ best wins Spud?
You not got The cobra on there either from your Hennessy days when you called Joe C. Calslappy.

I got Lloyd Honeyghan in there. Benn is not top 10.
I have changed my mind already and its going tobe controversial… i originally chose Lewis but his record when put under review doesn’t warrant him being no 1

Plus I too canot believe Carl Froch is not in there he is now. He takes chris eubanks place

I am also swapping Joe Calzaghe and Lennox Lewis

But gents how does Honeyghan get in ?
I have also changed my mind Spud, your initial list was better than mine don't worry.

Regarding Honeyghan, I think the manner of his unexpected victory lives long in the memory. I also like him vacating a belt based on the sanctioning body's stance on apartheid. That shows guts to me. He was also one of the first British fighters to regain a world title. He also wore really cool hats.

Did you ever meet Joe C when you were in boxing? He's one of my heroes hence me being nosey.
Nice guy, quiet and introverted

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 20:17
by SeanBrennan
Coco wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 20:14
SeanBrennan wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 20:02
Coco wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 19:43 The CAT
Maurice Hope
Alan Minter
Terry Downes
Freddie Mills
Charlie Magri
Howard Winstone
Freddie Welsh
Jim Watt
Amir Khan
Kell Brook
who is the CAT - Carl Thompson?
The one and only
excellent inclusion, love that he retired on a healthy winning streak. He looks so healthy these days and has even slimmed down from his fighting weight. He didn't make mega money but looks in such a good place. And what a fighter! True legend.

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 05 Mar 2024, 20:18
by SeanBrennan
Coco wrote: 05 Mar 2024, 19:43 The CAT
Maurice Hope
Alan Minter
Terry Downes
Freddie Mills
Charlie Magri
Howard Winstone
Freddie Welsh
Jim Watt
Amir Khan
Kell Brook
forgot Watt, worthy inclusion. I ummed and arred re Khan.

Re: British All Time Greats

Posted: 06 Mar 2024, 02:06
by forcefraser
Not much footage on Fitzsimmons. Very difficult to rate him and the opposition he faced.

Wasn't he a kiwi anyway?