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Mario Kindelan record!!!

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 03:31
by tea
Some good wins on there, and he started down at 48kgs!


http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/kindelan.html

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 04:21
by jomothepure
Well done tea. Take it you tracked that down through hard work. Anyone know any other amateur records available on the internet?

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 06:00
by Freiheit
From the amateur scene on this site: http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 06:24
by knockout
He fought Tito :o

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 06:31
by nickd
He beat Tito. That's a very impressive record, especially when you see he has a lot of losses early in his career but very few recently.

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 06:37
by knockout
Interesting that Hurtado beat him.... always liked Hurtado who somewhat under achieved as a pro....

and who is the guy who beat him at cuban championships in 2002......

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 07:24
by Manos de Oro
Very impressive. I thought the Gonzalez who beat him might have grown into the 175lb pro, but he's Mexican-American. The two wins over the Puerto Rican pro's are highlights (for the non-amatuer connoisseur) - beat Trinidad and outclassed Cotto.

I also think Hurtado underachieved, knockout. His first two stoppage losses were really devastating, each in their own way. In the first he is pounded into unconsciousness out of the ring, then in the second he is out-punched big style by Tszyu: being made to sit, paralyzed by a body shot, aware he has just been completely beaten by a smaller man. How the hell are you meant to get momentum back after two high-profile defeats like that?

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 08:36
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
knockout wrote:Interesting that Hurtado beat him.... always liked Hurtado who somewhat under achieved as a pro....

and who is the guy who beat him at cuban championships in 2002......
Hurtado was undefeated and beating Sweat Pea silly until Whitaker caught him on the ropes and Hurtado was the victim of 1 of the worst knockouts I've seen (should of been stopped far earlier), Hurtado was completely knocked out been held up by the ropesand still got hit about 5more times, very nasty.

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 11:17
by locoxelbox
knockout wrote:and who is the guy who beat him at cuban championships in 2002......
It's an error...Kindelan beat Rencise Perez 5-0...not the other way around.

Regarding Julio Gonzalez...he also holds a win over Kostya Tszyu...and a 2-1 decision loss to Oscar De La Hoya.

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 14:10
by Southpaw Stylist
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
knockout wrote:Interesting that Hurtado beat him.... always liked Hurtado who somewhat under achieved as a pro....

and who is the guy who beat him at cuban championships in 2002......
Hurtado was undefeated and beating Sweat Pea silly until Whitaker caught him on the ropes and Hurtado was the victim of 1 of the worst knockouts I've seen (should of been stopped far earlier), Hurtado was completely knocked out been held up by the ropesand still got hit about 5more times, very nasty.
It wasn't exactly the most prime Sweet-Pea either.

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 14:12
by Goz
I thought this thread was about Kindelan releasing an Elton John cover.

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 14:37
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
Southpaw Stylist wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
knockout wrote:Interesting that Hurtado beat him.... always liked Hurtado who somewhat under achieved as a pro....

and who is the guy who beat him at cuban championships in 2002......
Hurtado was undefeated and beating Sweat Pea silly until Whitaker caught him on the ropes and Hurtado was the victim of 1 of the worst knockouts I've seen (should of been stopped far earlier), Hurtado was completely knocked out been held up by the ropesand still got hit about 5more times, very nasty.
It wasn't exactly the most prime Sweet-Pea either.
Maybe not but he did deserve the decision against Oscar in his next fight :TU:

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 17:52
by Goz
Goz wrote:I thought this thread was about Kindelan releasing an Elton John cover.
Goodbye Amir Khan,
While those around you fought,
I saw you as more than just an opponent,
Left you with a silver medal...

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 18:00
by Neri
Miguel Cotto is on there too, shame we never got to see Kindelan's amateur success cross over to the pro's

Posted: 22 Mar 2005, 20:27
by states
Goz wrote:
Goz wrote:I thought this thread was about Kindelan releasing an Elton John cover.
Goodbye Amir Khan,
While those around you fought,
I saw you as more than just an opponent,
Left you with a silver medal...
..... And I would have liked to have cheered you
But that was just a dream
Your headguard may have left you,
your ego never will..........

:cry:

Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 09:16
by Loftgroov
Felix Savon KOed David Tua in 1 round :o

Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 09:19
by knockout
Loftgroov wrote:Felix Savon KOed David Tua in 1 round :o
they showed the clip in the build up to lennox v tua....

Tua was upright at the end but didnt have a clue where he was... of course he was still a teenager at the time


as we all know Savon won an record equalling 3 gold medals (92, 96, 2000).

But if you look at his record he easily beat Ray Mercer in 1988... of course Mercer went on to win gold and poor old Savon stayed at home as Cuba boycotted the games.

So it is highly likely Savon would have won the gold in 1988 aswell given the chance... imagine that 4 consecutive gold medals....

Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 09:39
by locoxelbox
Stevenson could have won four golds as well had Cuba not boycotted the Los Angeles Olympics. He beat Tyrell Biggs twice and even knocked him out.

Posted: 23 Mar 2005, 09:55
by knockout
gotta feel sorry for athletes who missed out on olympic glory due to boycotts...

a number of americans (such as Ed Moses in 1980)

many communist athletes in 1984 ( marita Kock and Jarmila K were unstoppable)

Sotamayor and Savon in 1988.....

all pretty much CERTAINTIES for gold medals....