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BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 25 Mar 2024, 04:59
by Ruthless-RKO
Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk -
21(14) 0 0 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Tyson Fury -
34(24) 0 1 - (
#3)
2.
Anthony Joshua -
28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
3.
Tyson Fury -
34(24) 0 1 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Oleksandr Usyk -
21(14) 0 0 - (

)
4.
Joseph Parker -
35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
5.
Filip Hrgovic -
17(14) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
6.
Zhilei Zhang -
24(21) 2(0) 1 - next fight:
TBA
7.
Joe Joyce -
16(15) 2(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
8.
Agit Kabayel -
24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Frank Sanchez -
24(17) 0 0- (
#9)
9.
Frank Sanchez -
24(17) 0 0 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Agit Kabayel -
24(16) 0(0) 0 - (
#8)
10.
Daniel Dubois -
20(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
11.
Martin Bakole -
20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
12.
Deontay Wilder -
43(42) 3(2) 1 - next fight:
TBA
13.
Jared Anderson -
16(15) 0 0 - next fight:
13.04.2024 vs.
Ryad Merhy -
32(26) 2(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #19)
14.
Efe Ajagba -
19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight:
13.04.2024 vs.
Guido Vianello -
12(10) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #96)
15.
Otto Wallin -
26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
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Question: How does Joyce stopping Ali affect the current rankings?
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 25 Mar 2024, 08:07
by joshj909
Joyce fine where he is so no change. Although he has two consecutive losses to #6 in Zhang, he also has a win over #4 in Parker less than 2 years ago which is the second best victory in our current rankings over the past 2 years after Usyk beating Joshua.
I would bring Whyte in at #12. His record over the past few years is an L Fury, W over Franklin and W over Hammer. Realistically only the Franklin result matters and I think that's a better scalp than Wilder and Sanchez have since 2022 but worse than most others. Wilder and Sanchez are both way too high for me so I would just have to make a compromise here.
This makes my own rankings:
1. Usyk
2. Parker
3. Hrgovic
4. Joshua
5. Zhang
6. Fury
7. Joyce
8. Kabayel
9. Bakole
10. Makhmudov
11. Ajagba
12. Dubois
13. Anderson
14. Wallin
15. Whyte
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 25 Mar 2024, 14:48
by KiwiRider
Joyce had a low level fight, and a fairly low level performance.
He got the job done, as expected, but Ali was able to land flush and frequently on Joyce. Not the sort of reset and improve you would expect from a guy coming off two losses because he couldn't defend himself.
Realistically, you would expect him to try out defensive tactics on a guy he is levels above, and he didn't.
Not expecting massive improvement obviously, but some at least.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 25 Mar 2024, 15:39
by gregregegg
Down one because he was copping bombs that a sloth could dodge. But nothing more because he took em well.
Joyce is the ultiment styles make fights guy, so ranking him is near impossible. Could be 5th could be 50th depending on whoโs in front of him.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 26 Mar 2024, 16:11
by CMCanavessi
Voted other (10). Ahead of Bakole and below Dubois.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 26 Mar 2024, 18:13
by badawiy
Mostly agree with what's said above, but I'd throw in that's his below Kabayel too.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 26 Mar 2024, 22:01
by oogiebe
He did nothing to go down and nothing to go up. No change.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 05:12
by Ruthless-RKO
25.05.2024 -
Arslanbek Makhmudov -
18(17) 1(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #32) vs.
Junior Fa -
20(11) 3(2) 0 - (Boxrec's #200)
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 07:02
by margaret thatcher
joe 8
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 07:28
by joshj909
Fa starting to cash out. Early KO and hopefully a quick turnaround for Makhmudov.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 15:04
by gregregegg
Weird fight. Mak should mak truck him. But if the very best version of fa turns up he could give mak a fight.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 15:56
by margaret thatcher
fa hasnt beaten someone with a win in going on 5 years
![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 23:13
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: โ28 Mar 2024, 15:56
fa hasnt beaten someone with a win in going on 5 years
I thought you were kidding until I viewed his record. LMFAO!!!
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 02:37
by gregregegg
margaret thatcher wrote: โ28 Mar 2024, 15:56
fa hasnt beaten someone with a win in going on 5 years
Wild stat.
Although 3 years ago he went pretty close with Parker.
Fa is pretty dam bad but not as bad as that stat suggests ^^^
Got absolutely dinged vs brown too, shit one to have on the record.
Hope he gives mac a fight, hard to imagine though.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 15:42
by Ruthless-RKO
8.
Agit Kabayel -
24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Frank Sanchez -
24(17) 0 0- (
#9)
9.
Frank Sanchez -
24(17) 0 0 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Agit Kabayel -
24(16) 0(0) 0 - (
#8)
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 20:15
by oogiebe
Now that is interesting. Could have impact on rankings for certain.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 20:36
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: โ29 Mar 2024, 20:15
Now that is interesting. Could have impact on rankings for certain.
Most evenly matched heavyweights fighting so far this year
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 23:37
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: โ29 Mar 2024, 20:15
Now that is interesting. Could have impact on rankings for certain.
Course it is. They both ranked next to each other.
Glad this Saudi money has got Kabayel active.
And weโre getting contenders fighting other contenders and not the likes of Alexander Flores

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 01 Apr 2024, 23:33
by Ruthless-RKO
Will wrap this up tmoro
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 03:29
by Ruthless-RKO
The vote is over.
Joe Joyce moves down to
#8
Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk -
21(14) 0 0 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Tyson Fury -
34(24) 0 1 - (
#3)
2.
Anthony Joshua -
28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
3.
Tyson Fury -
34(24) 0 1 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Oleksandr Usyk -
21(14) 0 0 - (

)
4.
Joseph Parker -
35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
5.
Filip Hrgovic -
17(14) 0 0 - next fight:
TBA
6.
Zhilei Zhang -
24(21) 2(0) 1 - next fight:
TBA
7.
Agit Kabayel -
24(16) 0(0) 0 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Frank Sanchez -
24(17) 0 0- (
#9)
8.
Joe Joyce -
16(15) 2(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
9.
Frank Sanchez -
24(17) 0 0 - next fight:
18.05.2024 vs.
Agit Kabayel -
24(16) 0(0) 0 - (
#7)
10.
Daniel Dubois -
20(19) 2(2) 0 - next fight:
TBA
11.
Martin Bakole -
20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
12.
Deontay Wilder -
43(42) 3(2) 1 - next fight:
TBA
13.
Jared Anderson -
16(15) 0 0 - next fight:
13.04.2024 vs.
Ryad Merhy -
32(26) 2(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #19)
14.
Efe Ajagba -
19(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight:
13.04.2024 vs.
Guido Vianello -
12(10) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #96)
15.
Otto Wallin -
26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight:
TBA
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 12:17
by Perkin Warbeck
Martin Bakole will face Cassius Chaney in Florida on May 31st on the Don King card (main event Adrien Broner vs Blair Cobbs).
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 12:29
by joshj909
Perkin Warbeck wrote: โ02 Apr 2024, 12:17
Martin Bakole will face Cassius Chaney in Florida on May 31st on the Don King card (main event Adrien Broner vs Blair Cobbs).
Bakole should be much better than Chaney but Chaney is ranked #7 by the WBA so that shows what Bakole's target is. He's ranked WBA #1 so he's either angling for the WBA mandatory or the WBA Regular mandatory. Charr Vs Pulev is happening for the Regular while Joshua and Parker follow Bakole in the rankings so an eliminator with one of them could be called for the full belt if that's what the plan is.
Let's hope Bakole hasn't signed one of King's poison contracts to get it done.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 12:39
by joshj909
Then we should have:
Hrgovic Vs Dubois
Zhang Vs Wilder
Bakole Vs Chaney
Then Anderson and Makhmudov have some more one-sided fights keeping them busy.
Parker has also just called out Whyte.
Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joyce vs. Ali
Posted: 03 Apr 2024, 02:28
by gregregegg
Parker has been ring top 10 for 419 weeks now. Pretty impressive. Looks on track to make a decade on the ring top 10โฆ very solid achievement from a guy many consider/considered b gradeโฆ
Wilder has a decade ring top 10 although hard for me to see a strong argument for him being too 10 nowโฆ