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Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 14:34
by goose 5
Paz has just been inducted into the IBHOF. Reactions ?

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 16:07
by giacomino
What is his best win? Greg Haugen? A nearly 50-year-old a Roberto Duran? Seems like he usually lost to decent, non-shot opposition, but I am guessing he’s getting in on personality

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 16:54
by zorndeslammes
I will never, ever again respect anyone who doesn't consider strongly the necessity of "Fame" in HOF voting. Way too many fringe cases have gotten in of late, but Vinnie is beyond being justifiable.

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 09:25
by keithmoonhangover
zorndeslammes wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 16:54 I will never, ever again respect anyone who doesn't consider strongly the necessity of "Fame" in HOF voting. Way too many fringe cases have gotten in of late, but Vinnie is beyond being justifiable.
The IBHOF is definitely biased towards American boxers. Dariusz Michalczewski isn't in, but Virgil Hill, Gatti and Paz are.

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 15:59
by Ambling Alp II
Michalczewski should be in.
Pazienza had a few nice wins. There are many others not in the HOF who were around his level. On the other hand, there have been worse picks.

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 21:09
by goose 5
Who was the worst choice in your view ?

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 08 Dec 2024, 13:06
by Ambling Alp II
Obviously, he who should not be named. He has not one signfiicant win in his whole career.
There are of course several guys who have weak cases. Gatti. Chalky Wright. Lew Jenkins, James Braddock, Jess Willard to name a few.

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 08 Dec 2024, 21:22
by goose 5
Chalky Wright not deserving ? A shot Wright beat Willie Joyce. A peak Wright was a great fighter.

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 10 Dec 2024, 20:31
by Ambling Alp II
He was never a great fighter. He also lost a ton of fights to guys that quite simply were not that good.

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 12:50
by Esquire
Paz is not worthy of the IBHOF. There are so many deserving fighters on the outside looking in. I'll give him credit for his courage, but this is a disgrace.

Re: Vinnie Paz IBHOF

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 18:55
by gilgamesh
Paz isn't a Hall of Fame guy at all to me. The doors are definitely getting a little too wide, and you're running the risk of the Hall of Fame becoming the Hall of Pretty Good.

He has a movie made about him though so....he's got that I guess.

Interesting personality. Not a particularly great fighter.