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I can't imagine the ShowFilmFirst friendly 'audience with' shows are garnering the moolah that a bout on a Turki bill would. He's been out for a year now.
What's the story?

I was looking forward to a night out in Nottingham. Leigh has been the most exciting fighter in the country, and even more importantly he's learned how to beat a good Mexican, which cannot be taken for granted. Sorry to see him lose his momentum.

Was odd to see Warrington immediately get a title opportunity. I actually don't watch him any more, as I think it's a waste of time - opponents seem to have figured him out, and he inevitably resorts to head butting, which mars a considerable number of his fights. Although he did give Leigh a great fight, and I admire his wins over Martinez (only the first one), Amagasa, as well as the higher profile ones versus Selby and Frampton.

deadpan wrote: ↑05 Dec 2024, 15:38 I can't imagine the ShowFilmFirst friendly 'audience with' shows are garnering the moolah that a bout on a Turki bill would. He's been out for a year now.
What's the story?

smells a bit silent banny?

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑06 Dec 2024, 19:44

deadpan wrote: ↑05 Dec 2024, 15:38 I can't imagine the ShowFilmFirst friendly 'audience with' shows are garnering the moolah that a bout on a Turki bill would. He's been out for a year now.
What's the story?

smells a bit silent banny?

It doesn't. He's overestimated his worth and found out Matchroom don't give a fuk.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑06 Dec 2024, 19:44

deadpan wrote: ↑05 Dec 2024, 15:38 I can't imagine the ShowFilmFirst friendly 'audience with' shows are garnering the moolah that a bout on a Turki bill would. He's been out for a year now.
What's the story?

smells a bit silent banny?

That was my thought as well.

Suddenly seemed to develop a toughness that he didn’t use to have in his early 30’s & eats shots for fun.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 03:44

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑06 Dec 2024, 19:44

deadpan wrote: ↑05 Dec 2024, 15:38 I can't imagine the ShowFilmFirst friendly 'audience with' shows are garnering the moolah that a bout on a Turki bill would. He's been out for a year now.
What's the story?

smells a bit silent banny?

It doesn't. He's overestimated his worth and found out Matchroom don't give a fuk.

You really don't like Matchroom, do you. Why?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:23

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 03:44

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑06 Dec 2024, 19:44

smells a bit silent banny?

It doesn't. He's overestimated his worth and found out Matchroom don't give a fuk.

You really don't like Matchroom, do you. Why?

I think they've ruined British boxing.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:23

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 03:44
It doesn't. He's overestimated his worth and found out Matchroom don't give a fuk.

You really don't like Matchroom, do you. Why?

I think they've ruined British boxing.

How so?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:48

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:23

You really don't like Matchroom, do you. Why?

I think they've ruined British boxing.

How so?

Moving it to DAZN. Putting way too much on PPV during the Sky days. Completely lying through their back teeth to the public. Everyone goes on about Saudi atmospheres but the atmosphere at Fury v Usyk was better than AJ v Dubois. The refusal for AJ to box Wilder or Fury. I doubt it was his choice. Most AJ fans I knew no longer follow him or the sport. A man like Dalton Smith goes unrecognised at BOXING SHOWS in his own county, I see it with my own eyes. People like Dave Allen, Sunny Edwards and Johnny Fisher only have profiles because of themselves. Even Benn v Eubank is relying on the masses who don't have a clue about boxing.

And Leigh Wood also got a bit confused about his own popularity. I was at the Lara rematch, a quarter full, the Warrington fight, miles more Josh fans, I wasn't at the Conlan fight but I know he brought a lot. Then he demands a stadium!

Indeed, where the eff is he? He's the most exciting guy around at the minute. Something's not right.

He posted on Twitter on the 17th November that he's close to getting a deal over the line but it's been a frustrating time for him.

He's a free agent and has simply priced himself out of fights. He hasn't hid that he wants some of the Saudi money.

He's been in some serious wars and runs a big risk of paying for it heavily in later life so cant blame him for aiming for a cash out.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 03:44

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑06 Dec 2024, 19:44

deadpan wrote: ↑05 Dec 2024, 15:38 I can't imagine the ShowFilmFirst friendly 'audience with' shows are garnering the moolah that a bout on a Turki bill would. He's been out for a year now.
What's the story?

smells a bit silent banny?

It doesn't. He's overestimated his worth and found out Matchroom don't give a fuk.

Very possible, I have zero inside knowledge on this hence my Friday night guessing after a wine

a force wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:07

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑06 Dec 2024, 19:44

deadpan wrote: ↑05 Dec 2024, 15:38 I can't imagine the ShowFilmFirst friendly 'audience with' shows are garnering the moolah that a bout on a Turki bill would. He's been out for a year now.
What's the story?

smells a bit silent banny?

That was my thought as well.

Suddenly seemed to develop a toughness that he didn’t use to have in his early 30’s & eats shots for fun.

i've no idea really, I don't think we will ever know will we. There will be loads of them on gear though

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 08:38

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:48

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45
I think they've ruined British boxing.

How so?

Moving it to DAZN. Putting way too much on PPV during the Sky days. Completely lying through their back teeth to the public. Everyone goes on about Saudi atmospheres but the atmosphere at Fury v Usyk was better than AJ v Dubois. The refusal for AJ to box Wilder or Fury. I doubt it was his choice. Most AJ fans I knew no longer follow him or the sport. A man like Dalton Smith goes unrecognised at BOXING SHOWS in his own county, I see it with my own eyes. People like Dave Allen, Sunny Edwards and Johnny Fisher only have profiles because of themselves. Even Benn v Eubank is relying on the masses who don't have a clue about boxing.

You must be equally furious about Fwank going over to DAZN.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 14:49

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 08:38

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:48

How so?

Moving it to DAZN. Putting way too much on PPV during the Sky days. Completely lying through their back teeth to the public. Everyone goes on about Saudi atmospheres but the atmosphere at Fury v Usyk was better than AJ v Dubois. The refusal for AJ to box Wilder or Fury. I doubt it was his choice. Most AJ fans I knew no longer follow him or the sport. A man like Dalton Smith goes unrecognised at BOXING SHOWS in his own county, I see it with my own eyes. People like Dave Allen, Sunny Edwards and Johnny Fisher only have profiles because of themselves. Even Benn v Eubank is relying on the masses who don't have a clue about boxing.

You must be equally furious about Fwank going over to DAZN.

It's not great, is it? But not equally as I much prefer Frank. I've always liked him since I started following the sport.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 08:38

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:48

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45
I think they've ruined British boxing.

How so?

Moving it to DAZN. Putting way too much on PPV during the Sky days. Completely lying through their back teeth to the public. Everyone goes on about Saudi atmospheres but the atmosphere at Fury v Usyk was better than AJ v Dubois. The refusal for AJ to box Wilder or Fury. I doubt it was his choice. Most AJ fans I knew no longer follow him or the sport. A man like Dalton Smith goes unrecognised at BOXING SHOWS in his own county, I see it with my own eyes. People like Dave Allen, Sunny Edwards and Johnny Fisher only have profiles because of themselves. Even Benn v Eubank is relying on the masses who don't have a clue about boxing.

Sounds like every other UK boxing promoter pre turkey shake

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:23

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 03:44
It doesn't. He's overestimated his worth and found out Matchroom don't give a fuk.

You really don't like Matchroom, do you. Why?

I think they've ruined British boxing.

Yeah spoiled boxing by putting on too many shows.

stevec@france wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 17:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:23

You really don't like Matchroom, do you. Why?

I think they've ruined British boxing.

Yeah spoiled boxing by putting on too many shows.

When? Which uk shows this year are you referring to?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 18:26

stevec@france wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 17:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45
I think they've ruined British boxing.

Yeah spoiled boxing by putting on too many shows.

When? Which uk shows this year are you referring to?

Well ur post wasnt just about this year was it ... what do u expect a list .

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 08:38

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:48

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45
I think they've ruined British boxing.

How so?

Moving it to DAZN. Putting way too much on PPV during the Sky days. Completely lying through their back teeth to the public. Everyone goes on about Saudi atmospheres but the atmosphere at Fury v Usyk was better than AJ v Dubois. The refusal for AJ to box Wilder or Fury. I doubt it was his choice. Most AJ fans I knew no longer follow him or the sport. A man like Dalton Smith goes unrecognised at BOXING SHOWS in his own county, I see it with my own eyes. People like Dave Allen, Sunny Edwards and Johnny Fisher only have profiles because of themselves. Even Benn v Eubank is relying on the masses who don't have a clue about boxing.

I think it’s pretty extreme saying they’ve ‘ruined British boxing’.

They were instrumental with Sky in making British boxing big again but moved to DAZN because it was best for them financially and that it gave them more control to be able to put on non U.K. shows.

Same as I wouldn’t criticise Frank for leaving Sky Sports to start BN because he believed it would be best for his business. It did mean, as with Matchroom’s shows, they had a lot less U.K. viewers.

MR and Sky Sports were excellent partners. I’d agree they did too many PPVs though.

Sky remained invested in boxing and we had some pretty big fights initially post MR but things have heavily dropped off since.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 08:38

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:48

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:45
I think they've ruined British boxing.

How so?

Moving it to DAZN. Putting way too much on PPV during the Sky days. Completely lying through their back teeth to the public. Everyone goes on about Saudi atmospheres but the atmosphere at Fury v Usyk was better than AJ v Dubois. The refusal for AJ to box Wilder or Fury. I doubt it was his choice. Most AJ fans I knew no longer follow him or the sport. A man like Dalton Smith goes unrecognised at BOXING SHOWS in his own county, I see it with my own eyes. People like Dave Allen, Sunny Edwards and Johnny Fisher only have profiles because of themselves. Even Benn v Eubank is relying on the masses who don't have a clue about boxing.

AJ refusal to box Fury

Here we go again!

Frostieballs wrote: ↑08 Dec 2024, 06:14

mickey1975 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 08:38

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 07:48

How so?

Moving it to DAZN. Putting way too much on PPV during the Sky days. Completely lying through their back teeth to the public. Everyone goes on about Saudi atmospheres but the atmosphere at Fury v Usyk was better than AJ v Dubois. The refusal for AJ to box Wilder or Fury. I doubt it was his choice. Most AJ fans I knew no longer follow him or the sport. A man like Dalton Smith goes unrecognised at BOXING SHOWS in his own county, I see it with my own eyes. People like Dave Allen, Sunny Edwards and Johnny Fisher only have profiles because of themselves. Even Benn v Eubank is relying on the masses who don't have a clue about boxing.

AJ refusal to box Fury

Here we go again!

I said I doubt it was his choice. I don't think anyone now can claim AJ was desperate to face Wilder and Fury. He gambled on Usyk being too small. He's got an immediate rematch on a plate that he's terrified of taking. Hearn has literally been saying "all roads lead to undisputed" for years. Fury and Usyk did it and are rematching within 7 months.