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2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 14:37
by ordsalloriginator
Devin Haney lost to Ryan Garcia
Ray Ford lost to Nick Ball
Rolly Romero lost to Isaac Cruz
Jared Anderson lost to Martin Bakole
Deontay Wilder lost to Zhilei Zhang
Regis Prograis lost to Jack Catterall
Michael Hunter lost to Artem Suslenkov
Danny Garcia lost to Erislandy Lara
Austin Williams lost to Hamzah Sheeraz
Brandon Adams lost to Andreas Katzourakis
O'Shaquie Foster lost to Robson Concecaio
Brain Mendoza lost to Serhii Bohachuk
Elijah Garcia lost to Kyrone Davis
Tevin Farmer lost to William Zepeda
Vergil Ortiz Jr should have a loss to Serhii Bohachuk
Teofimo Lopez should have a loss to Jahmaine Ortiz
Richardson Hitchins should have a loss to Gustavo Daniel Lemoz
Terence Crawford arguably could have had a loss Israil Madrimov
Ryan Garcia was suspended for one year for taking peds
Jaron Ennis looked mediocre in his two fights
Gervonta Davis only fought once and seems content on cherry picking
Jermell Charlo and Jermall Charlo seem to be back in retirement as they haven't this year
Errol Spence also didn't fight in 2024
PBC only put on 5 shows in the whole year
Ring Magazine was sold to Turkii
Most of the biggest shows of the year were in Saudi, not USA.

There's some positive points for the USA like Jesse Rodriguez, and David Benavidez (despite only fighting once) but overall it's been a a very poor year for USA

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 14:40
by margaret thatcher
american fighters lost bouts in 2024, yes

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 14:43
by ordsalloriginator
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 14:40 american fighters lost bouts in 2024, yes
A hell of a lot of bouts, and most of them were America's best fighters and most were A side's

America seem to be taking L's after L's, fighters like Crawford and Rodriguez are part of a small and shrinking fast contingent of USA boxers at the top of the sport.

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 14:49
by margaret thatcher
its not that small, per boxrec automated + fan rankings, ring magazine, transnational p4p rankings etc usa still has at least 4 out of 10 in each p4p list. there are still plenty of top americans: bam, crawford, davis, ennis, benavidez, stevenson, lopez, haney (albeit not a good year), etc...then you got guys in next tier with belts or contending like figueroa, fundora, fulton, foster, valenzuela, hitchins, leo, norman, ortiz jr, ..with some younger guys like keyshawn davis

but i would agree there are some rough patches too, notably that pbc shows have dwindled massively and reduced pbc fighter activity outside their biggest stars, and also dev haney + ryan garcia both tooks hits this year.

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 14:54
by Sweet Dick Willie
And thank god for that

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 31 Dec 2024, 15:17
by ordsalloriginator
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Dec 2024, 14:49 but i would agree there are some rough patches too, notably that pbc shows have dwindled massively and reduced pbc fighter activity outside their biggest stars, and also dev haney + ryan garcia both tooks hits this year.
yeah and De La Hoya's Golden Boy stable is probably the weakest it's ever been

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 01 Jan 2025, 11:05
by JamesPhilips
I always hated the “you have to come to America to prove you’re a real champion” type attitude that used to exist. Yes USA used to dominate the higher weights but doesn’t mean they should automatically have home advantage .

Boxing during and after the 1990s became way more international, with former communist states allowing pro boxing and other countries catching up with the US, in terms of training, supplements, nutrition (and PEDS).

America is still a strong boxing country but the landscape is far more global, and gratefully so. It’s much more interesting and competitive

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 01 Jan 2025, 13:53
by funso banjo baby
The Hunter loss has been erased from history. Maybe this is the way forward?

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 02 Jan 2025, 13:44
by zorndeslammes
How many fights were televised in the US this year; not streamed, televised? I don't even know if we averaged a card per month. Regardless of how important streaming is to literally everything, top sports properties are televised and get big TV contracts related to those rights. Boxing isn't one of those in the United States anymore and the sport is largely reliant on Saudi capital. It is an international sport more than ever before because the interest and funding in the US is mostly gone whether from distribution or in the form of site fees (regional casinos have cut WAY back on live boxing).

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 02 Jan 2025, 14:00
by cormack
Correct and long may the trend continue :yay: :yay: :yay:

UK and Saudi is where its at now ..

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 02 Jan 2025, 14:55
by Ruthless-RKO
Al Harmon needs to get on board with Turki,

PBC is ready 99% finished.

Re: 2024 Has Been a Terrible Year For USA Boxing

Posted: 02 Jan 2025, 18:00
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Jake paul had a great year though