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Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 15:05
by SeanBrennan
Joe has said he is fighting on - what do people think he will or should do next? I know he has a comeback fight on Boxrec
https://britishboxingnews.co.uk/news/jo ... 20proposed.
https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/811429
If he comes through this, the article says he will fight Wardley - which sounds very dangerous. I like Joe and it all feels a bit sad, reminds me of Price, Olympic medallist, losses to same person twice and never the same again, and coming back to be 6th on the card on a lesser bill.
Do you think he made 'forever' money and just wants to fight on, believes he can still get to the top, or something else?
He turns 40 in less than 8 months..
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 15:36
by Jimmy2025
I chop and change with this type of question.
I've no idea what Joe's financial situation is but I do know that there's a big difference between forever money in London and most other places. Joe is a London boy and he'd be bored to tears living where I do, for example, even if he did know he'd be well sorted for life money wise.
I think he should target one more big fight if he wants.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 17:11
by joshj909
He really needs to step back again. He's never going to get back into the title picture so rather than a heavy-hitting, young top 15 heavyweight in Wardley, he should be looking at veterans and maybe crush some can crushers. A couple of these a year won't earn him huge money but he can get some wins and save some braincells. I'd pick Pulev, Ruiz, Sirenko, Hysa, Hughie, Yoka, Pero, Yallyev, Dychko, Kadiru and other guys of this ilk
That's if he's going to fight on that is. I think he is probably better off retiring for his health.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 01:37
by Controversial
It's a difficult one as it's easy for us to say retire but unless you are absolutely minted most people can't afford to retire in their 30s or 40s. I'm one of those who think Joyce should retire for the good of his health but he also needs money to live. I have no idea how much he's made but as we know once tax, fees, training expenses, managers cut etc come out fighters aren't left with as much as you think. That's also assuming he's been sensible with it too, lots of people aren't. So I get the allure of carrying on, especially with the Saudi money that's around.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 06:32
by tony1234
I'm not sure Joe gets a big money Saudi fight now, unless they put him in with Moses Itauma
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 12:22
by cormack
tony1234 wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 06:32
I'm not sure Joe gets a big money Saudi fight now, unless they put him in with Moses Itauma
well thats quite likely isnt it
Thing is I said on here maybe 2 years ago del boy shud retire - yet he just battered JJ !
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 13:22
by magnus
The guy he's fighting next is woeful - far worse than his debut opponent, which is a rare achievement 20 fights in.
I'm guessing his confidence is low, which is understandable, but knocking this guy out in 30 seconds will prove nothing.
I don't want to see him against Wardley though, anyone involved in that should be sent to The Hague.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 15:05
by Controversial
Can't be easy for him seeing Dubois fighting Parker after he stopped both of them
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 15:59
by SeanBrennan
Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2025, 15:36
I chop and change with this type of question.
I've no idea what Joe's financial situation is but I do know that there's a big difference between forever money in London and most other places. Joe is a London boy and he'd be bored to tears living where I do, for example, even if he did know he'd be well sorted for life money wise.
I think he should target one more big fight if he wants.
Cheers Jimmy valid point re London vs other UK places in terms of cost. I live in Lincolnshire and my house is quite nice and big, but I know I could not afford half of a wheelie bin in London
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 16:04
by SeanBrennan
Controversial wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 15:05
Can't be easy for him seeing Dubois fighting Parker after he stopped both of them
That is what blags my head I really thought he’d win a world title and even depleted did not envisage Chisora beating him.
Has the punch resistance definitely gone do you think? Zhang hits really hard and I know Chisora put him down, could there be a final hurrah?
I’m acutely aware I’m lying to myself
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 17:30
by MasterG
We know what's next he has a fight with Patrick Korte.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 17:44
by joshj909
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 16:04
Controversial wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 15:05
Can't be easy for him seeing Dubois fighting Parker after he stopped both of them
That is what blags my head I really thought he’d win a world title and even depleted did not envisage Chisora beating him.
Has the punch resistance definitely gone do you think? Zhang hits really hard and I know Chisora put him down, could there be a final hurrah?
I’m acutely aware I’m lying to myself
He shouldn't have had a second go at Zhang. That clearly took a hell of a lot out of him and there was clearly a gulf between them.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 18:01
by KiwiRider
Why does he have to earn retirement money?
Why can't he just work a job like the rest of us?
It's like people think a boxer can only box, or work in boxing
Risk early dementia, or work a job.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 19:00
by The Gratest
I think he'd prefer to work for Coneye...
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 19:00
by The Gratest
Hasn't he got a degree in art?
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 19:57
by SeanBrennan
The Gratest wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 19:00
Hasn't he got a degree in art?
Fine art. I dare say it’s not a secure job if a career.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 19:59
by SeanBrennan
KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 18:01
Why does he have to earn retirement money?
Why can't he just work a job like the rest of us?
It's like people think a boxer can only box, or work in boxing
Risk early dementia, or work a job.
I’m not saying he has to buddy just speculating. I’m not sure he cares what the likes of me thinks I’m just discussing it.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 19:59
by margaret thatcher
personal training sessions?
jobs for joe, could be the new reality hit
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 20:20
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 19:59
personal training sessions?
jobs for joe, could be the new reality hit
I'd love PT sessions with Joe, finally someone who can go at my pace.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 20:37
by 1749666
don't worry about joye joyce's finances. obviously a millionaire form fighting zhang twice on PPV plus chisora and dubois....
he will not need to work again.
26 Jul 2024 — Chisora is expected to earn about $1.2 Million. As for the 'Juggernaut,' our sources indicate that he will most likely earn $450,000, ...
15 Apr 2023 — Joyce will take 65% of the PPV money and Zhang will receive 35%. It is estimated that Joyce could earn as much as $2m from the PPV. Read More.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 05:16
by Boxerbeetle
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 19:57
The Gratest wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 19:00
Hasn't he got a degree in art?
Fine art. I dare say it’s not a secure job if a career.
Remember that nun who got her own BBC show talking about religious art? Joyce could do similar, must be loads of great boxing / sports artwork out there.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 05:56
by Ezzard
Joe is still a top fighter. He can build himself up to another big pay day. If he still has the belief and is injury-free I can imagine there are many in the top 10 he can still defeat.
I guess the engine might not be there in the same way. But I would make him favourite against Parker, Dubois, Wardley.
I'd like to see him in with Joshua.
Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 06:35
by The Gratest
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025, 05:16
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 19:57
The Gratest wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 19:00
Hasn't he got a degree in art?
Fine art. I dare say it’s not a secure job if a career.
Remember that nun who got her own BBC show talking about religious art? Joyce could do similar, must be loads of great boxing / sports artwork out there.
I'm currently working on a painting of the man himself

Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 07:08
by Boxerbeetle
The Gratest wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025, 06:35
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025, 05:16
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Jan 2025, 19:57
Fine art. I dare say it’s not a secure job if a career.
Remember that nun who got her own BBC show talking about religious art? Joyce could do similar, must be loads of great boxing / sports artwork out there.
I'm currently working on a painting of the man himself
There we are, first episode sorted already then. Make sure you give us a preview of the painting on here first tho

Re: Joe Joyce - what next
Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 07:11
by The Gratest
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025, 07:08
The Gratest wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025, 06:35
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑28 Jan 2025, 05:16
Remember that nun who got her own BBC show talking about religious art? Joyce could do similar, must be loads of great boxing / sports artwork out there.
I'm currently working on a painting of the man himself
There we are, first episode sorted already then. Make sure you give us a preview of the painting on here first tho
Still a lot of details to be added...hair, sweat, neck, shoulders...