Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 12:23
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Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
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Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 12:47
we are gonna miss him big style
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 14:05
Absolutely. I'd love to see him in with all of the Top 15 just because he's a joy to watch and a compelling character. Outside of Russia, who doesn't like him?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 14:22
He is brilliant, his dismantling of both AJ and Fury was a great watch. I love a fairytale ending, though. There's not a single person at heavy or cruiser that you'll be left wishing he would've fought. I'd prefer to see him out of it.
I'd be genuinely upset if he fades overnight and gets beaten by Dubois or Parker.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 15:11
After the Parker/Dubois winner. We could just sort of let the up and coming Heavyweights fight it out over the Summer to see who gets the last crack at Usyk.
Bakole or Zhang would be interesting options.
Bakole or Zhang would be interesting options.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 15:20
It will be good to see him go out at the top. Didn’t he say a while back he wanted to drop down to Cruiser and reclaim his titles? Going back down in weight seldom ends well at the tail end of a career…
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 16:34
They almost always go on too long. Dubois/Parker winner is a banana skin and Jai-Op at cruiser is a mugger with a bat when you are cutting 25lbs at 40.
He's way better than all three but so was Ali and I'd not give him much chance these days.
He's way better than all three but so was Ali and I'd not give him much chance these days.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 17:31
I wish he'd already retired
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 17:39
2 more fights, its quite possible he could still beat anyone else around in that time, but it is teetering on the boarder of being around too long, for a guy who relies a lot on his legs and energy
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 18:08
If Dubois beats Parker, it would be an absolute shame for Usyk's last 6 fights to be rematches against three people who he conclusively beat the first time.
So for me, best case scenario is we get Parker then one of Opetaia, Bakole, Kabayel or Zhang depending on their wins over the next 12 months.
So for me, best case scenario is we get Parker then one of Opetaia, Bakole, Kabayel or Zhang depending on their wins over the next 12 months.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 18:38
ya f@ck even more rematches, lets get him in fresh fights for what little we have left
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 19:44
Has he ever fought in Vegas ? Maybe he'd like to tick that box although it's hard to think of a suitable US opponent
Terence Crawford perhaps if he beats Canelo
Terence Crawford perhaps if he beats Canelo
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 19:48
He hasn’t I don’t think.CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑12 Feb 2025, 19:44 Has he ever fought in Vegas ? Maybe he'd like to tick that box although it's hard to think of a suitable US opponent
Terence Crawford perhaps if he beats Canelo
Just Chicago for his HW debut and it was California I think for the Loma undercard
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 20:03
I know his cardio is on another level compared to the big lumps, but he's long past his peak. The signs where already showing in both the Fury fights.
I agree with others, any fight here on in is a potential banana skin, but maybe he see's it as easy money.
I agree with others, any fight here on in is a potential banana skin, but maybe he see's it as easy money.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 12 Feb 2025, 21:22
He beats the winner of Parker Dubois then gets kayoed in one by Ituama.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 03:58
When DDD beats Parker he will deserve it the most. But I don’t want a rematch.
Zhang/kab, bakolie, Whyte if he knocks out Joyce spectacular, big baby or Ruiz, opetia…
Honestly I’d rather Moses way to soon over DDD rematch (although DDD deserves it more)
Zhang/kab, bakolie, Whyte if he knocks out Joyce spectacular, big baby or Ruiz, opetia…
Honestly I’d rather Moses way to soon over DDD rematch (although DDD deserves it more)
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 05:16
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 05:32
When???gregregegg wrote: ↑13 Feb 2025, 03:58 When DDD beats Parker he will deserve it the most. But I don’t want a rematch.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 07:38
Itauma looks good for a prospect but it's getting a bit farfetched to think that Usyk should retire to avoid him or Itauma would be a deserved favourite over him. I understand that father time is undefeated which would make most fights a potential banana skin for Usyk but Itauma has yet to face anyone of note. His best win is ranked #99 by Boxrec which says it all. All opponents could be a potential banana skin once he declines, not just Itauma.Sammy Scaff wrote: ↑13 Feb 2025, 05:16Moses is the reason he needs to get out soon with his '0' intact. He'll lose to this kid if he sticks around too long.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 10:12
Yep, as with all “next big things” we’ll get an idea how good Moses really is when he faces someone who’ll take his shots and hit him back hardjoshj909 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2025, 07:38Itauma looks good for a prospect but it's getting a bit farfetched to think that Usyk should retire to avoid him or Itauma would be a deserved favourite over him. I understand that father time is undefeated which would make most fights a potential banana skin for Usyk but Itauma has yet to face anyone of note. His best win is ranked #99 by Boxrec which says it all. All opponents could be a potential banana skin once he declines, not just Itauma.Sammy Scaff wrote: ↑13 Feb 2025, 05:16Moses is the reason he needs to get out soon with his '0' intact. He'll lose to this kid if he sticks around too long.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 11:56
His chin has yet to be tested in public but already I can say that very few HWs will stay upright long enough to put it to the test.CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑13 Feb 2025, 10:12Yep, as with all “next big things” we’ll get an idea how good Moses really is when he faces someone who’ll take his shots and hit him back hardjoshj909 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2025, 07:38Itauma looks good for a prospect but it's getting a bit farfetched to think that Usyk should retire to avoid him or Itauma would be a deserved favourite over him. I understand that father time is undefeated which would make most fights a potential banana skin for Usyk but Itauma has yet to face anyone of note. His best win is ranked #99 by Boxrec which says it all. All opponents could be a potential banana skin once he declines, not just Itauma.Sammy Scaff wrote: ↑13 Feb 2025, 05:16
Moses is the reason he needs to get out soon with his '0' intact. He'll lose to this kid if he sticks around too long.
In 2 years time we'll know just how good he can be. My opinion is that he's going to be the best Heavy since Lennox and Prime Usyk
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 13:29
That's a big call. And when DDD loses, there is a rematch clausegregregegg wrote: ↑13 Feb 2025, 03:58 When DDD beats Parker he will deserve it the most. But I don’t want a rematch.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 13:33
2 fights is just 1 more year isnt it? not like he's saying hes fighting 5 more years
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 14:21
absolute folly to assume Itauma could even get the fight vs Usyk given rankings and his lack of a belt to make it worthwhile .
even more silly to assume he can KO the best HW we have had for the last 2 decades .
even more silly to assume he can KO the best HW we have had for the last 2 decades .
Re: Oleksandr Usyk to Retire After 2 Fights
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 14:53
Going back to Cruiserweight would be just downright stupid. Less money and More risk.