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Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 07:49
by joshj909
Who do you guys see as the most promising prospects who may pick up a belt or dominate the division once the current stars have left the sport over the next couple of years. There will still be a few of those knocking about like Dubois, Parker, Kabayel etc but for the most part, there will be new blood in championship contention, but who can pick up the a belt or two?
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 13 Feb 2025, 17:29
by golden_labrador
wavered over Jalo but I'm starting to doubt. Mo for now. 10 years younger
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 14 Feb 2025, 23:59
by Bobbyptsd
I'd say Dubois is already a "champion level" fighter, I wouldn't call him a prospect after his wins over Miller, Hergovic and Joshua. So if I had to pick someone I'd go with him as I think he's already there.
Out of the rest I'd say Itauma is probably the top prospect. I'd like to say Jalolov but I'll wait to see how he does against Jerry Forrest in 2027 at this rate.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 15 Feb 2025, 04:12
by Taansend
Bobbyptsd wrote: ↑14 Feb 2025, 23:59
I'd say Dubois is already a "champion level" fighter, I wouldn't call him a prospect after his wins over Miller, Hergovic and Joshua. So if I had to pick someone I'd go with him as I think he's already there.
Out of the rest I'd say Itauma is probably the top prospect. I'd like to say Jalolov but I'll wait to see how he does against Jerry Forrest in 2027 at this rate.
Yep. You have to say Dubois is 2nd after Usyk, 3rd after Fury at most.
We'll learn more in a week.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 15 Feb 2025, 13:29
by golden_labrador
Bobbyptsd wrote: ↑14 Feb 2025, 23:59
I'd like to say Jalolov but I'll wait to see how he does against Jerry Forrest in 2027 at this rate.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 15 Feb 2025, 15:13
by Perkin Warbeck
Itauma has the brightest future. He has talent as well as excellent promotion.
Jalolov has the talent to become a champion, but he's already 30 and is very poorly managed/promoted.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 15 Feb 2025, 15:58
by klitoris
If you're under 30 doesn't mean you're a prospect lol
Dubois is a heavyweight champion; he's not a prospect.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 16 Feb 2025, 16:54
by joshj909
klitoris wrote: ↑15 Feb 2025, 15:58
If you're under 30 doesn't mean you're a prospect lol
Dubois is a heavyweight champion; he's not a prospect.
I guess the question of the poll more accurately asks the question.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 16 Feb 2025, 23:24
by gregregegg
We need a better way of defining a prospect… like
Mabey…
(Age)+(pro fights x 2) < 45…
So if your 20 you can have 12 pro fights and remain a prospect…
If your 30 you can only of had 7…
Obviously this dosent really work for general conversation cause who you fought matters more than how many fights and there is a bunch of neuance…..
but if the current IBF world champ, boxrec algorithm number 2, with 25 fights, who is 27 with 2 losses and approx 5 years on from stepping to near world level, is a prospect then who isn’t.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 17 Feb 2025, 06:38
by Syntax Error
Moses Itauma looks tremendous and he's still a teenager.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 17 Feb 2025, 11:19
by Taansend
Syntax Error wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 06:38
Moses Itauma looks tremendous and he's still a teenager.
He's 20 now.
Getting old
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 17 Feb 2025, 14:47
by Syntax Error
Taansend wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 11:19
Syntax Error wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 06:38
Moses Itauma looks tremendous and he's still a teenager.
He's 20 now.
Getting old
I didn't realise he'd had a birthday.
He was talking about breaking Tyson's record, but that's not going to happen as the belts are not massively fragmented and as good as he is, he isn't in pole position for any of the belts.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 17 Feb 2025, 16:40
by Oiky
Moses itauma for me
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 18 Feb 2025, 07:41
by Cyclops
Syntax Error wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 14:47
Taansend wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 11:19
Syntax Error wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 06:38
Moses Itauma looks tremendous and he's still a teenager.
He's 20 now.
Getting old
I didn't realise he'd had a birthday.
He was talking about breaking Tyson's record, but that's not going to happen as the belts are not massively fragmented and as good as he is, he isn't in pole position for any of the belts.
Turki has said in interview that he wants to see Moses have a crack at beating Mike's record win or lose, and so far if he's wanted something he's gotten in, so we may see it. Does it count if it's for a vacant belt or a fight against someone not named Usyk?
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 18 Feb 2025, 09:28
by joshj909
Cyclops wrote: ↑18 Feb 2025, 07:41
Syntax Error wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 14:47
Taansend wrote: ↑17 Feb 2025, 11:19
He's 20 now.
Getting old
I didn't realise he'd had a birthday.
He was talking about breaking Tyson's record, but that's not going to happen as the belts are not massively fragmented and as good as he is, he isn't in pole position for any of the belts.
Turki has said in interview that he wants to see Moses have a crack at beating Mike's record win or lose, and so far if he's wanted something he's gotten in, so we may see it. Does it count if it's for a vacant belt or a fight against someone not named Usyk?
It would be embarrassing if he does it due to Turki arranging a stripping of a title and then Moses fighting for a vacant belt against a guy that is not top 5 or even top 10.
Only other option is the WBA Regular title against Pulev. Frank would still call him a world champion and casuals would believe it too. It would be an embarrassing claim though.
He has under 3 months to get it done so unlikely it happens.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 22 Mar 2025, 20:49
by gregregegg
Geeze it’s hard for these big boys to get rounds befor stepping up….
Moses fights averaging just under 2 ish rounds
Teremoa averaging less than 1 full round.
Torrez jr averaging 2 and a half ish rounds.
Jalov averaging 2 and a half ish rounds..
Considering at world levle these guys are going to need to be able to go 12 rounds (or at least know they can for confidence) … This clearly isn’t ideal prep..
Is there a solution? Find tougher opponents? Hold back a bit? Could they voluntarily wear 14oz gloves in a pro fight… there just are not many people short of the top 20 capable of giving these guys the rounds they need, is the honest truth just too bad no one gets a great preparation to stepping up….
I guess huni has found rounds, partially due to his lack of crazy power but also partially due to fighting tough operators…
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 22 Mar 2025, 20:51
by gilgamesh
Moses Itauma is fighting on the April 5th card right? I look forward to seeing this kid with all the hype you guys are giving him.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 23 Mar 2025, 07:46
by JamesPhilips
What’s happening with Jalolov?
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 23 Mar 2025, 08:14
by Jimmy2025
gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Mar 2025, 20:51
Moses Itauma is fighting on the April 5th card right? I look forward to seeing this kid with all the hype you guys are giving him.
I don't expect him to appear on that card. We'll see.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 23 Mar 2025, 08:46
by joshj909
gregregegg wrote: ↑22 Mar 2025, 20:49
Geeze it’s hard for these big boys to get rounds befor stepping up….
Moses fights averaging just under 2 ish rounds
Teremoa averaging less than 1 full round.
Torrez jr averaging 2 and a half ish rounds.
Jalov averaging 2 and a half ish rounds..
Considering at world levle these guys are going to need to be able to go 12 rounds (or at least know they can for confidence) … This clearly isn’t ideal prep..
Is there a solution? Find tougher opponents? Hold back a bit? Could they voluntarily wear 14oz gloves in a pro fight… there just are not many people short of the top 20 capable of giving these guys the rounds they need, is the honest truth just too bad no one gets a great preparation to stepping up….
I guess huni has found rounds, partially due to his lack of crazy power but also partially due to fighting tough operators…
Yep. If these guys and their promoters believed in their talent then they'd be facing much more durable opponents. They don't have to jump right up to facing world level talent or other undefeated prospects but facing a durable opponent who may ask some questions would help them a lot more than these knock over jobs. The likes of Wallin, Allen, Fisher, Hughie, Franklin and Goodall would all ask some minor questions without being a proper threat while also not folding within two rounds.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 23 Mar 2025, 09:00
by Jimmy2025
joshj909 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2025, 08:46
gregregegg wrote: ↑22 Mar 2025, 20:49
Geeze it’s hard for these big boys to get rounds befor stepping up….
Moses fights averaging just under 2 ish rounds
Teremoa averaging less than 1 full round.
Torrez jr averaging 2 and a half ish rounds.
Jalov averaging 2 and a half ish rounds..
Considering at world levle these guys are going to need to be able to go 12 rounds (or at least know they can for confidence) … This clearly isn’t ideal prep..
Is there a solution? Find tougher opponents? Hold back a bit? Could they voluntarily wear 14oz gloves in a pro fight… there just are not many people short of the top 20 capable of giving these guys the rounds they need, is the honest truth just too bad no one gets a great preparation to stepping up….
I guess huni has found rounds, partially due to his lack of crazy power but also partially due to fighting tough operators…
Yep. If these guys and their promoters believed in their talent then they'd be facing much more durable opponents. They don't have to jump right up to facing world level talent or other undefeated prospects but facing a durable opponent who may ask some questions would help them a lot more than these knock over jobs. The likes of Wallin, Allen, Fisher, Hughie, Franklin and Goodall would all ask some minor questions without being a proper threat while also not folding within two rounds.
I don't think the money is there. Put Saudi to one side where they are investing/risking their money, apart from that, people don't have the disposable income they did and it's difficult to make boxing pay. Times are hard at most levels of the sport but not all the boxers have got used to that and are pricing themselves out.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 23 Mar 2025, 17:26
by magic_man
Among the well-known names, the one with the greatest potential, in my opinion, is Moses Itauma. Among the lesser-known fighters, I encourage you to keep an eye on the Cuban Angelo Morejon. He has technique, power, amateur experience, and excellent stamina. I've seen him improve a lot over the past few years, and on April 5, I'll be ringside to watch him fight for his first international title against the Frenchman David Spilmont.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 05 Jun 2025, 23:59
by mickgw
See i have a few that i still have faith in even though all have suffered a loss or 2, Efe Ajagba is one i really still like, he got robbed in his last fight vs Bakole, would like to see him avenge his only loss vs Sanchez, and then a rematch with Bakole, I think he wins both fights if there are rematches, Jarred Anderson, that loss to Bakole has set him back, but being young he still has plenty of time on his side, and if he were to rematch Bakole, with a better gameplan he can win, Stephan Shaw a 6" 4 American who i think is a very neat boxer with some real skill, he does have a decision loss to Ajagba, but thats no disgrace, matched carefully i think this guy can win a minor belt and get into the TOP 15.,
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 06 Jun 2025, 05:33
by joshj909
mickgw wrote: ↑05 Jun 2025, 23:59
See i have a few that i still have faith in even though all have suffered a loss or 2, Efe Ajagba is one i really still like, he got robbed in his last fight vs Bakole,
would like to see him avenge his only loss vs Sanchez, and then a rematch with Bakole, I think he wins both fights if there are rematches, Jarred Anderson, that loss to Bakole has set him back, but being young he still has plenty of time on his side, and if he were to rematch Bakole, with a better gameplan he can win, Stephan Shaw a 6" 4 American who i think is a very neat boxer with some real skill, he does have a decision loss to Ajagba, but thats no disgrace, matched carefully i think this guy can win a minor belt and get into the TOP 15.,
He could barely lay a glove on Sanchez. If Sanchez's injury hasn't effected him then I don't see how Ajagba could do anything different in a rematch.
Re: Most promising heavyweight prospects?
Posted: 06 Jun 2025, 07:01
by keithmoonhangover
I'm a big fan of Richard Torrez Jnr.