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How would Sugar Ray Robinson Done in the The 4 Kings Era

Posted: 29 Mar 2025, 17:50
by GordonChen
Could he succeed or not

Re: How would Sugar Ray Robinson Done in the The 4 Kings Era

Posted: 29 Mar 2025, 19:22
by Expug
Certainly. He’s an all time great. There might be some back and forth, lose a decision here or there to one of the four but he could beat any of them also.

Re: How would Sugar Ray Robinson Done in the The 4 Kings Era

Posted: 30 Mar 2025, 22:30
by gilgamesh
He would've done tremendously. I think Hagler would've been his toughest test of that era, and he may not have been able to get the better of Hagler in a 3 fight series.

I'd favor him to beat Duran, Hearns, Leonard or Benitez. These are all great fighters so they'd give Robinson all he wants, but I think he could beat 'em.

Re: How would Sugar Ray Robinson Done in the The 4 Kings Era

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 07:29
by Ezzard
It's hard to see a situation where he doesn't come out on top.

Re: How would Sugar Ray Robinson Done in the The 4 Kings Era

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 20:39
by elmersalsa
I always believe that at welterweight, the greats Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard beat Sugar Ray Robinson. Both of them were more complete than Robinson.
But, above welterweight, it would be a different story. Robinson wins because he was stronger and maybe faster than those two greats. Duran and Leonard weren't dominant boxers above 147lbs.

Robinson beats the great Thomas Hearns at any weight class.

Marvelous would be the only one in my view that would beat Robinson at middleweight every time. He was much more complete boxer than Robinson.

Re: How would Sugar Ray Robinson Done in the The 4 Kings Era

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 01:08
by p4p1
elmersalsa wrote: 01 Apr 2025, 20:39 I always believe that at welterweight, the greats Roberto Duran and Sugar Ray Leonard beat Sugar Ray Robinson. Both of them were more complete than Robinson.
But, above welterweight, it would be a different story. Robinson wins because he was stronger and maybe faster than those two greats. Duran and Leonard weren't dominant boxers above 147lbs.

Robinson beats the great Thomas Hearns at any weight class.

Marvelous would be the only one in my view that would beat Robinson at middleweight every time. He was much more complete boxer than Robinson.
I just find this to be a weird take. Robinson's best weight was at 147. He was dominant at the weight, he never lost at the weight, he was the best Welterweight in the world for like 8+ years.
147 wasn't even Duran's best weight, he would needed to have a fire fight with Robinson, which I doubt would be in his favour.
Because of his style Leonard could give him a lot of trouble,
The only fight Robinson lost during his WW era was against Lamotta who outweighed him by 15lbs, a difference that in another thread you called a travesty and murder. Robinson only started losing when he was in his 30s, before then he was basically untouchable.

I agree Hearns just doesn't have the chin and defence to last all fight.

Not sure if Hagler was more complete that Robinson, but I think it is his toughest fight of the four and probably the best fight of all 4. 2 men with power and uncrackable chins.