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who are some generally liked boxers who you dont or didn't like? not saying you need to hate them or something, but they just dont have the same spark for you that they do for many others

for me, juan manuel marquez would be one. great boxer, but a major whiner and if you read interviews often disrespectful to opponents. glen johnson kinda got on my nerves too after awhile, constantly crying robbery even when he was clearly beat, would rarely give opponents credit

feel free to piss some people off

by the same token - any unpopular/heel type boxers you are a fan of?

I didn't know that about JMM- I was a big fan of his style.

Popular that I dislike: the ones that sit there holier than though whilst going through the majority, if not entire, career with a dodgy doctor prescribing them TUEs they don't really need - or only need to counteract the damage caused by previous PED use.

Unpopular that I liked: Tony Margarito

Popular boxer I dislike? Bernard Hopkins

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 00:35 Popular that I dislike: the ones that sit there holier than though whilst going through the majority, if not entire, career with a dodgy doctor prescribing them TUEs they don't really need - or only need to counteract the damage caused by previous PED use.

Unpopular that I liked: Tony Margarito

ya, marg is exact the type i have in mind for that second question

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 01:42

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 00:35 Popular that I dislike: the ones that sit there holier than though whilst going through the majority, if not entire, career with a dodgy doctor prescribing them TUEs they don't really need - or only need to counteract the damage caused by previous PED use.

Unpopular that I liked: Tony Margarito

ya, marg is exact the type i have in mind for that second question

Yeah, I opened the thread to post Margarito. He was my favourite fighter for a while.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025, 20:36 who are some generally liked boxers who you dont or didn't like? not saying you need to hate them or something, but they just dont have the same spark for you that they do for many others

for me, juan manuel marquez would be one. great boxer, but a major whiner and if you read interviews often disrespectful to opponents. glen johnson kinda got on my nerves too after awhile, constantly crying robbery even when he was clearly beat, would rarely give opponents credit

feel free to piss some people off

If ever there's a post that'll bring back Datsue, it's this one.
He'd be all over you for your comments on JMM.

I have a sort of grudging admiration for John Ruiz's sticking with his dreadful post-Tua style all the way to world title level, brushing off wave after wave of contempt and abuse

I'm a big Jack Catterall fan.

After the sky fireside chat thing with the Super middleweights. Eubank, Calzaghe, Jones Jr, Collins, Woodhall I have to say I don’t like Steve Collins at all. Respect the career he had and obviously beating Benn and Eubank is to be admired but came off as such a helmet on that show and Eubank rightly called him out. All the others came off well and are clearly at ease with their careers but Collins had such a complex.

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 05:17

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Jun 2025, 20:36 who are some generally liked boxers who you dont or didn't like? not saying you need to hate them or something, but they just dont have the same spark for you that they do for many others

for me, juan manuel marquez would be one. great boxer, but a major whiner and if you read interviews often disrespectful to opponents. glen johnson kinda got on my nerves too after awhile, constantly crying robbery even when he was clearly beat, would rarely give opponents credit

feel free to piss some people off

If ever there's a post that'll bring back Datsue, it's this one.
He'd be all over you for your comments on JMM.

tbf he was absolute quality as a boxer, just seems like a bit of a tit the more i looked into it

dookus wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 05:42 I have a sort of grudging admiration for John Ruiz's sticking with his dreadful post-Tua style all the way to world title level, brushing off wave after wave of contempt and abuse

ya same.

I liked sunny edwards, great to watch if you are a purist. also like tony bellew.

disliked "elements" of hatton. The way he proclaimed himself "mr. excitement" when he would be in hugfests,,,,the relentless shit jokes,,,, the way he avoided witter..... how he treated Billy Graham... also the way hes tried to rewrite the history of the pacquiao fight. at the time manny had just beaten ODLH having stepped up having beaten a bang average David Diaz. No one was proclaiming him an top ten ATG at the time and most attributed that win because Oscar was old and weight drained. Hatton picked him cos he thought he'd be small and could walk through him but came terribly unstuck. He was basically hoping to bully a little guy.

Liam Cameron got a ton of love recently for being a real, genuine, nice bloke who was down to earth and shopped in Aldi and yada yada. F*ck me, turn it in mate. I saw an interview with him recently where he'd taken the interviewer to a park, that he even admitted it wasn't the park he normally went to, so that they could film the interview with a dumped bathtub in the background. Too much emphasis on the sob story for me. It feels very forced and contrived.

Bit of an odd one with the unpopular bit, but I used to like Sakio Bika. Not a great boxer, but hard as nails and as dirty as they came, and roughed up some of the best SMWs ever: really put it on Calzaghe when he was riding high and also took on Andre Ward at his own game, spoiling and sticking the nut on the pompous fouling yank and probably giving him one of his hardest fights.

I was made up for him when he picked up a strap, the WBC too! And hated Froch mugging him off when he turned up to one of Froch's post fight press conferences with the belt over his shoulder, doing what he was supposed to do and trying to get a fight. He also showed how truly tough he was when he moved up to LHW and went the distance with Adonis Stevenson, who was brutally knocking everyone out at the time.

Not particularly noticed at the time, and probably doomed to never really be remembered, Sakio was a good, solid honest pro who worked hard for everything he ever got in boxing, and earned every success.

Popular - Never liked Hatton.... Still dont

Unpopular - Mayweather jr

Steveh583 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 14:12 I liked sunny edwards, great to watch if you are a purist. also like tony bellew.

disliked "elements" of hatton. The way he proclaimed himself "mr. excitement" when he would be in hugfests,,,,the relentless shit jokes,,,, the way he avoided witter..... how he treated Billy Graham... also the way hes tried to rewrite the history of the pacquiao fight. at the time manny had just beaten ODLH having stepped up having beaten a bang average David Diaz. No one was proclaiming him an top ten ATG at the time and most attributed that win because Oscar was old and weight drained. Hatton picked him cos he thought he'd be small and could walk through him but came terribly unstuck. He was basically hoping to bully a little guy.

Don't like Hatton and never did.

I really like BJS was sound to me and my mate when I met him and have seen and heard from others he’s done a lot for people fun to watch skill wise for me too.

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 00:35
Unpopular that I liked: Tony Margarito

I met him several times & he was a lovely, humble, bloke.

What he did was terrible but outside of the ring he was a very nice chap.

Taansend wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 01:50

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 00:35
Unpopular that I liked: Tony Margarito

I met him several times & he was a lovely, humble, bloke.

What he did was terrible but outside of the ring he was a very nice chap.

Is there any proof he ever actually fought with loaded wraps?

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 03:58

Taansend wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 01:50

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑20 Jun 2025, 00:35
Unpopular that I liked: Tony Margarito

I met him several times & he was a lovely, humble, bloke.

What he did was terrible but outside of the ring he was a very nice chap.

Is there any proof he ever actually fought with loaded wraps?

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/boxer-s-wraps ... t-1.839757

Cyclops wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 06:37

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 03:58

Taansend wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 01:50

I met him several times & he was a lovely, humble, bloke.

What he did was terrible but outside of the ring he was a very nice chap.

Is there any proof he ever actually fought with loaded wraps?

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/boxer-s-wraps ... t-1.839757

Cheers, I know about that, though, it doesn't answer my question.

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 11:10

Cyclops wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 06:37

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 03:58

Is there any proof he ever actually fought with loaded wraps?

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/boxer-s-wraps ... t-1.839757

Cheers, I know about that, though, it doesn't answer my question.

In terms of proof, it's not a lot is it? There really isn't much out there. If you read interviews with Nazeem Richardson at the time, who noticed something was up with the wraps, you would've thought he practically had knuckle dusters inside his wraps. I would love to know exactly what was in his wraps, or not.

Cyclops wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 12:51

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 11:10

Cyclops wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 06:37
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/boxer-s-wraps ... t-1.839757

Cheers, I know about that, though, it doesn't answer my question.

In terms of proof, it's not a lot is it? There really isn't much out there. If you read interviews with Nazeem Richardson at the time, who noticed something was up with the wraps, you would've thought he practically had knuckle dusters inside his wraps. I would love to know exactly what was in his wraps, or not.

And. crucially, they were removed before the fight. People have assumed Tony used them in previous fights. I have never seen any evidence of that. Cotto's team, for example, watched him getting his hands wrapped. We will probably never know for sure.

I think his wraps were dodgy in previous fights. No proof but the way he battered Cotto just doesn't feel right. The rematch was VERY different. That's not proof on its own but when looking at the bigger picture.

I just find it hard to believe they tore through an undefeated Cotto & then thought "You know what, we need to cheat against a slightly over the hill Mosley". It wasn't a first time thing.

After the Pacquiao fight he came into my casino & popped over to chat with me. He looked like the monster from the Goonies. One eye was about an inch lower than the other. I don't think I ever saw him again after that as a few months later I moved to Santa Barbara. I hope his eye healed up. I suppose it did.

But yes, he & his wife were just lovely people. A whole lot different from the San Diego Chargers players that used to come in & play the worst table games. Or Allen Iverson who talked like a Dave Chapelle character & would demand that no White male dealers came to his table. Patrick Ewing was a top bloke though. And the bloke who owned the Lakers always flew in by private chopper with two girls (different ones each time) who barely looked 18. He didn't play that huge though. It was mainly for show.