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Could Mike Tyson beat every of them or would he have trouble

Iron Mike Tyson would have been too fast, too strong and too big for those guys.

Agreed, he would have beaten them all.

45 round fights?

Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025, 09:15 45 round fights?

I don’t think that will change much if they were getting destroyed already in the 1st round or the other early rounds

GordonChen wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025, 10:00

Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025, 09:15 45 round fights?

I don’t think that will change much if they were getting destroyed already in the 1st round or the other early rounds

And if not?

If Tyson is prepping for 45 rounds everything would be different.

Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025, 10:19

GordonChen wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025, 10:00

Ezzard wrote: ↑09 Jul 2025, 09:15 45 round fights?

I don’t think that will change much if they were getting destroyed already in the 1st round or the other early rounds

And if not?

If Tyson is prepping for 45 rounds everything would be different.

So you think they will withstand his attack?

Well maybe he feels like he must hold something back?

Who knows? Do they get to see footgae of him? Do they prepare for his early onslaught?

Is he dropped into the 1900s or do they face him in the late 1980s?

Tyson beats almost everyone, with the exception of Jim Jeffries and Jack Johnson.

Jeffries loses every round and takes a vicious beating until the very end, when Tyson tires and the Boilermaker knocks him out.

Johnson is a little too tricky. Tyson has good moments, but Jack frustrates him enough to get the win.

bwu wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 08:40 Tyson beats almost everyone, with the exception of Jim Jeffries and Jack Johnson.

Jeffries loses every round and takes a vicious beating until the very end, when Tyson tires and the Boilermaker knocks him out.

Johnson is a little too tricky. Tyson has good moments, but Jack frustrates him enough to get the win.

The great Mike Tyson would not lose to Jim J. Jeffries. Take that off your mind.

The only one of that era that could give Tyson problems would be the great Jack Johnson. That's it. Anybody else of that era would be ran through by Iron Mike's fists.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025, 16:58

bwu wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 08:40 Tyson beats almost everyone, with the exception of Jim Jeffries and Jack Johnson.

Jeffries loses every round and takes a vicious beating until the very end, when Tyson tires and the Boilermaker knocks him out.

Johnson is a little too tricky. Tyson has good moments, but Jack frustrates him enough to get the win.

The great Mike Tyson would not lose to Jim J. Jeffries. Take that off your mind.

The only one of that era that could give Tyson problems would be the great Jack Johnson. That's it. Anybody else of that era would be ran through by Iron Mike's fists.

I don't think anybody from that era gives Mike trouble including Jack Johnson.

Combination punching was almost unheard of in this era. Tyson's fast hands, and multiple punches would've overwhelmed all of these guys within 5 or 6 rounds at the most.

However one of the posters questions is important to consider. Are these fights taking place in 1900 or the 1980's.

The Sport had changed so much in the time period between Jeffries and Tyson that it's essentially a completely different sport.

That's why you really have a hard time knowing how the matchups with the guys from that era would go. The rules of Boxing back in that era were entirely different. However, can you imagine how dangerous Mike Tyson would've been without having to go to a neutral corner after he knocked you down?

The main problem these guys would've presented Mike is all the wrestling and clinching they would've been allowed to do in that era. If you drop these guys in the sport as it was in the 1980's. Tyson slaughters them all. I honestly think he'd be too much for him under any circumstances, but if you take away these guys' ability to clinch, and wrestle, and make it an ugly fight, then they're toast.

To play the devil's advocate, it wasn't just the early 1900s when there a lot of holding and clinching. Holyfield held a lot against Tyson. Lewis held a lot in some of his fights. Wlad Klitschko held a lot in his later career to minimize his glass jaw and poor stamina. And of course there was John Ruiz.

My presumption is that Tyson was taken back to the early 1900s. If you haul the early legends eighty years ahead, then the only one I pick over him is Johnson.

Tyson loses to Jeffries for the same reason he loses to Marciano and Frazier (for instance) in the early eras: All three of them could take a beating and keep fighting. Tyson was way more talented. But they had a determination that would carry them through the best he had to offer....in their eras. In Jeffries' case it is the early 1900s. Now, if you bring them to 1988, Tyson wins because of the tendency to stop fights quicker.

Johnson was a skilled technical fighter. He could meet Tyson combo for combo. Johnson was also great at frustrating guys and that would be a problem for Iron Mike.

One of the things I think everyone is forgetting is Tyson's inability to overcome in-fight adversity. When did he get knocked down or cut or injured and come back to win? I'm not denying his greatness; I only picked two guys to beat him in this scenario. But he had flaws and they could be exploited.

If Jack Johnson were developed in the same era as Tyson, he'd have a chance. If we're transporting a modern Tyson back to 1910, Johnson gets destroyed.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025, 21:18 To play the devil's advocate, it wasn't just the early 1900s when there a lot of holding and clinching. Holyfield held a lot against Tyson. Lewis held a lot in some of his fights. Wlad Klitschko held a lot in his later career to minimize his glass jaw and poor stamina. And of course there was John Ruiz.

ya wlad really modelled his jab ,....jab.....right hand.....hold. repeat style from big jack. those two really similar stylistically

elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 15:32 Iron Mike Tyson would have been too fast, too strong and too big for those guys.

How long do you see them lasting I see most of them getting stopped in 1 round and few of them barley passing 2 round with only some getting to 4 round before getting stopped

GordonChen wrote: ↑14 Jul 2025, 01:27

elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Jun 2025, 15:32 Iron Mike Tyson would have been too fast, too strong and too big for those guys.

How long do you see them lasting I see most of them getting stopped in 1 round and few of them barley passing 2 round with only some getting to 4 round before getting stopped

All I know that they would be ran through before round 3. If they make it to round 5, it would be a miracle.

bwu wrote: ↑10 Jul 2025, 08:40 Tyson beats almost everyone, with the exception of Jim Jeffries and Jack Johnson.

Jeffries loses every round and takes a vicious beating until the very end, when Tyson tires and the Boilermaker knocks him out.

Johnson is a little too tricky. Tyson has good moments, but Jack frustrates him enough to get the win.

You just can say a 1900 Mike Tyson beat XYZ. . Who would train him ? There were no PED's back then.

If they are all brought through on an even field. Training, video, nutrition etc... Then you'd expect guys like Johnson and Jeffries to have a great chance. Jackson and Jeanette maybe too. Langford maybe too small.

It takes a while in just a bout every sport for the sport to reach the point where as a whole it stops improving. After a while all the strategies and techniques are discovered. Boxing improved in the late 1800s and early 1900s. By the 1920s, boxing as a whole had reached the point where it was not going to get better. (That's not to say a particular great fighter would not have been great later on.)

Don't believe the sport got better since then because of training and nutrition. Things were different, but not necessarily inferior. For example, few people don't do sit-ups anymore. There are other ways that we think are less time consuming. but sit-ups worked. They would still work; the results would just take more time than more modern methods. u

Yes, the sport was still developing when Jeffries was fighting. However, Jeffries himself was very unique. He was an athlete. He had ran track and wrestled. He had remarkable stamina and a great chin. Very doubtful that Tyson or anyone would have just rolled over him. Johnson was obviously a great talent.

McVey and Jeannette would have been at the least top contenders in any era. Many fighters from this era trained hard. They fought tough competition on their way up which improved them in the long run.

goose 5 wrote: ↑12 Jul 2025, 23:41 If Jack Johnson were developed in the same era as Tyson, he'd have a chance. If we're transporting a modern Tyson back to 1910, Johnson gets destroyed.

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