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good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 14 Feb 2026, 17:53
by margaret thatcher
i had been reviewing mike tyson's old opponents recently, and couldnt help but notice how many guys he beat who are remembered best for being splattered by mike, yet actually were very handy fighters with good wins that get totally overshadowed by their failed effort vs tyson
carl williams, trevor berbick, pinky thomas, marvis frazier (marvis especially, since he is 2nd most remembered for being splattered by holmes, despite being a former world amateur champ with pro wins over several contenders/fringer contenders, including beating our boys bugner and a then 14-0 funso banjo)
who are some other guys like this?
in a more broad career sense, howard davis the olympic champ is often seen as a let down for not winning a world title, and discussions around him are framed more about his failures than his successes. but he actually had a very respectable pro career and credibly challenged two very good champs
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 03:09
by TheLeprechaun
Razor Ruddock is remembered for losing to Tyson and Lewis.
I know he's a pretty good fighter though.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 04:55
by JC
Cleveland Williams. Not a champion or anything but a fearsome fighter in his day. Mostly known for being on the receiving end of peak young Ali.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 05:07
by MasterG
You've got to remember Herol Graham V Julian Jackson. Minutes away from beating Jackson, then boom!
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 06:10
by MasterG
Also Tony Sibson v Hagler. Got to feel for Sibbo, getting slaughtered, but getting up and wandering around like a drunkard.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 08:15
by lefthook82
Wayne McCollough
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 08:23
by NazNaci1
Don Curry vs Mike McCallum...clinical one shot.
Watson vs Eubanks.
McClellan vs Benn.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 08:42
by dookus
Luke Campbell
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 08:43
by SeanBrennan
Jeff Lacy
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 08:44
by dookus
Kevin Mitchell
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 08:49
by JC
I think Gerry Cooney was a better fighter than he is often remembered as off the back of the Holmes fight.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 08:51
by keithmoonhangover
Ty Biggs?
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 09:04
by jameswilson
Ron Lyle and Earnie Shavers both had near miss defeats to some legends.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 09:43
by JamesPhilips
Ken Norton?
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 09:45
by SeanBrennan
Terry Marsh
Just kidding
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 10:00
by dookus
Meldrick Taylor
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 10:10
by jameswilson
dookus wrote: β15 Feb 2026, 10:00
Meldrick Taylor
Heβs remembered for his writing.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 11:00
by JamesPhilips
Billy Conn unfairly remembered for Joe Louis losses mainly
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 15 Feb 2026, 11:29
by Taansend
A favourite of mine unfairly remembered for a WIN that everyone but the judges thought he lost is...
Jose Luis Ramirez.
He was 100(82)-6(1) going into his fight against 15(9)-0 Pernell Whittaker, had been a pro for 15 years & had fought such greats as Ruben Olivares (his only KO loss), Alexis Arguello (L-SD), Ray Mancini (L-UD), Edwin Rosario (L-UD, W-KO4), Macho Camacho (L-UD), Terrance Alli (W-UD) & Cornelius Boza-Edwards (W-KO5) before meeting Sweet Pea.
He was given a S-WD but Pernell won that fight handily from what I remember at the time.
After that he lost to Chavez, the rematch to Pernell & finally the great Argentinean Juan Martin Coggi before hanging up his gloves with a 102-9 tally.
A great career sullied, but financially enriched, by 2 judges decisions.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 16 Feb 2026, 06:15
by margaret thatcher
do i dare say audley?
won the euro, a couple of prizefighters.......not a bad career really, but of course he' s thought of almost entirely in terms of his low points
the short few rounds before sprott flattened him, i thought he looked fearsomely fantastic. he was not a bad fighter offensively when he let his hands go
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 16 Feb 2026, 12:07
by Taansend
margaret thatcher wrote: β16 Feb 2026, 06:15
do i dare say audley?
won the euro, a couple of prizefighters.......not a bad career really, but of course he' s thought of almost entirely in terms of his low points
the short few rounds before sprott flattened him, i thought he looked fearsomely fantastic. he was not a bad fighter offensively when he let his hands go
This is a great call.
A lot of the UK's Amateur success in the 21st Century was spurred on by him.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 16 Feb 2026, 12:18
by tiny_acres
Michael Spinks a GREAT fighter remembered for his loss to Tyson
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 16 Feb 2026, 12:28
by TheLeprechaun
Spinks is a great call. He looked very intimidated vs Tyson. Tyson came out to a pretty intimidating ring walk buzzing type of song and was at the peak of his powers. I would have liked to have been around to feel that the atmosphere was like around Tyson but you get a feel of it from watching the fight but clearly the entire planet thought he was an absolute phenom and his opponents were visibly petrified going in there with him. Spinks was coming off two very good fights with Holmes.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 16 Feb 2026, 12:41
by gilgamesh
tiny_acres wrote: β16 Feb 2026, 12:18
Michael Spinks a GREAT fighter remembered for his loss to Tyson
Very true. One of the all timers at Light Heavyweight, and a very solid Heavyweight run in his own right, but he's just Mike Tyson's biggest win in most people's minds.
Re: good fighters remembered for losses/failures
Posted: 16 Feb 2026, 13:55
by Old bones Ian
Could you put Tommy Hearns in here? Most remember his fights against Sugar Ray and Hagler.