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Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 06 Mar 2026, 18:27
by elmersalsa
At middleweight, who wins?
15 rounds. For the Middleweight Championship of the World!
I believe that Marvelous was much more complete boxer than Robinson. Each one to how own opinion.
I would pick Marvelous by decision in 15 rounds.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 06 Mar 2026, 18:31
by tiny_acres
elmersalsa wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 18:27
At middleweight, who wins?
15 rounds. For the Middleweight Championship of the World!
I believe that Marvelous was much more complete boxer than Robinson. Each one to how own opinion.
I would pick Marvelous by decision in 15 rounds.
I never thought I would ever hear someone say Hagler was more complete than Robinson
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Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 06 Mar 2026, 18:32
by elmersalsa
tiny_acres wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 18:31
elmersalsa wrote: ↑06 Mar 2026, 18:27
At middleweight, who wins?
15 rounds. For the Middleweight Championship of the World!
I believe that Marvelous was much more complete boxer than Robinson. Each one to how own opinion.
I would pick Marvelous by decision in 15 rounds.
I never thought I would ever hear someone say Hagler was more complete than Robinson
To me, he was. Better technician, better stamina, and ring generalship. And fought better on the inside. Sugar Ray Robinson was inept at the inside fighting.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 06 Mar 2026, 21:28
by goose 5
Post 1952 Robinson, Hagler wins and then loses a rematch.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 06 Mar 2026, 21:55
by Seamus
Robinson, physically stronger, bigger puncher
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 06 Mar 2026, 22:02
by goose 5
Stronger ? I wouldn't have thought that. I agree on the puncher part.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 06 Mar 2026, 22:06
by goose 5
Al Romano told me he and Hagler had a sit-up contest. Hagler finished 500 before Romano could do 250. He also said Hagler often did 12 miles of roadwork and he had to work very hard to even break a sweat. The expression he used was " Hagler's body was greedy for exercise."
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 07 Mar 2026, 09:22
by Cent0089
Hagler. But without steroids, probably Robinson.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 07 Mar 2026, 10:44
by Seamus
Yes Robinson was physically stronger than Hagler, and he proved it many times in toe to toe battles with much heavier opponents.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 07 Mar 2026, 13:17
by goose 5
Hagler was on steroids ? Proof ?
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 07 Mar 2026, 13:59
by gilgamesh
Cent0089 wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 09:22
Hagler. But without steroids, probably Robinson.
This sh*t right here is why I ignore fans when they accuse guys of PED usage. They just say it randomly with no basis in anything if it's a fighter they want to believe it about.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 07 Mar 2026, 15:58
by Cent0089
What sh!t? I am not hating on Hagler or anything. He is one of my favorite fighters. This is mythical fight between fighter from 40s and 50s against fighter from 80s. Of course PEDS are big factor here. People tend to forget that golden era of boxing was also golden era of steroids.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 07 Mar 2026, 21:20
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Robinson points
Hes better and stronger and faster
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 07 Mar 2026, 21:23
by gilgamesh
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑07 Mar 2026, 21:20
Robinson points
Hes better and stronger and faster
I don't know about stronger, but better and faster he very likely is.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 18 Mar 2026, 13:23
by Nile4000
Marvin by close UD.
Re: Middleweights: Marvelous Marvin Hagler vs Sugar Ray Robinson
Posted: 18 Mar 2026, 16:13
by Expug
The Hagler of 81 when he beat Hamsho, could beat any middleweight in history I believe. He was an absolute machine. Box, punch, anyway you wanna play it.
I have him ud over Ray