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Fleming v Wyllie Scoring

Posted: 27 May 2026, 18:25
by Taansend
I just noticed the scoring in this fight.

One judge scored it 100-90 to Wyllie while another scored it 97-93 to Fleming.

The 3rd judge had it even at 95-95.

I know we all see fights differently but how can those first two judge have such a completely different view of the same fight?

Is Chris Condon a known judge? He scored every round to one bloke. What did he see that others didn't?

Re: Fleming v Wyllie Scoring

Posted: 28 May 2026, 04:27
by Beltane

Re: Fleming v Wyllie Scoring

Posted: 28 May 2026, 13:55
by Taansend
Beltane wrote: 28 May 2026, 04:27 Condon has been around for over 20 years:

https://boxrec.com/en/referee/404301

Some old news:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/boxing/jud ... 55p4q.html
Cheers

Re: Fleming v Wyllie Scoring

Posted: 29 May 2026, 07:30
by fox
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2026, 18:25 I just noticed the scoring in this fight.

One judge scored it 100-90 to Wyllie while another scored it 97-93 to Fleming.

The 3rd judge had it even at 95-95.

I know we all see fights differently but how can those first two judge have such a completely different view of the same fight?

Is Chris Condon a known judge? He scored every round to one bloke. What did he see that others didn't?
Jake is from my hometown and a good mate of mine. But there is no way he won every round of that fight. I thought maybe 96-94.

Re: Fleming v Wyllie Scoring

Posted: 29 May 2026, 11:11
by MPW
fox wrote: 29 May 2026, 07:30
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2026, 18:25 I just noticed the scoring in this fight.

One judge scored it 100-90 to Wyllie while another scored it 97-93 to Fleming.

The 3rd judge had it even at 95-95.

I know we all see fights differently but how can those first two judge have such a completely different view of the same fight?

Is Chris Condon a known judge? He scored every round to one bloke. What did he see that others didn't?
Jake is from my hometown and a good mate of mine. But there is no way he won every round of that fight. I thought maybe 96-94.
Not saying it's right or proper, but that's one of the anomalies of scoring in boxing. Fighter A could narrowly win each round and, when the final scores are announced, it's a widely lopsided UD that belies how close the fight actually was. It seems unlikely in a 10-round fight, but apparently it can happen.

Re: Fleming v Wyllie Scoring

Posted: 31 May 2026, 02:31
by fox
MPW wrote: 29 May 2026, 11:11
fox wrote: 29 May 2026, 07:30
Taansend wrote: 27 May 2026, 18:25 I just noticed the scoring in this fight.

One judge scored it 100-90 to Wyllie while another scored it 97-93 to Fleming.

The 3rd judge had it even at 95-95.

I know we all see fights differently but how can those first two judge have such a completely different view of the same fight?

Is Chris Condon a known judge? He scored every round to one bloke. What did he see that others didn't?
Jake is from my hometown and a good mate of mine. But there is no way he won every round of that fight. I thought maybe 96-94.
Not saying it's right or proper, but that's one of the anomalies of scoring in boxing. Fighter A could narrowly win each round and, when the final scores are announced, it's a widely lopsided UD that belies how close the fight actually was. It seems unlikely in a 10-round fight, but apparently it can happen.
Yes close fight and a lot of those rounds could’ve gone either way. I thought Jake did enough to win but couldn’t argue that it was a draw. I couldn’t see 10 rounds to nil but all close rounds and understand how it can happen.

Re: Fleming v Wyllie Scoring

Posted: 31 May 2026, 06:16
by 1582388
When I first watched this fight, I had it 97-93 Wyllie. Then I watched it a couple of weeks later and had it 97-93 Fleming. It was a close fight with many rounds that could’ve gone either way, but 100-90 to either fighter is wild.