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ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 14 Jun 2026, 15:47
by Controversial
As the question says, an ATG fighter, in their prime years but looked very poor or struggled with someone they shouldn’t have. Not fights they necessarily lost but maybe won and just looked awful or very average.

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 14 Jun 2026, 19:13
by goose 5
Robinson's draw with Henry Brimm- based on what I've read.

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 14 Jun 2026, 21:42
by Ambling Alp II
Just some off of the top of my head:

Joe Louis in the first fight against Conn looked way off until the end.
Hagler vs Marcus Geraldo
Mayweather vs Castillo I

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 15 Jun 2026, 11:02
by Expug
Good topic. There are a lot of these. Especially back when there were non title fights.
Alexis Arguello dropped a ten rounder to Vilomar Fernandez when he was champ.

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 15 Jun 2026, 11:45
by Seamus
Willie Pep's first bout with Jimmy McAllister. Pep was 8 days rest while McAllister was on 77, but it was still an off night for Pep who went back to normal for his 2nd and 3rd fights with Jimmy.

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 15 Jun 2026, 17:40
by gilgamesh
James Toney against Dave Tiberi had a mediocre performance.

Whitaker had a bad night against Diobelys Hurtado. He pulled it out of the fire with a dramatic come from behind KO, but he'd had a bad night most of the fight.

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 16 Jun 2026, 00:15
by gilgamesh
Hagler getting by Duran by the skin of his teeth isn't a particularly great performance on his part. Good, competitive fight though.

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 16 Jun 2026, 19:28
by Ambling Alp II
Seamus wrote: 15 Jun 2026, 11:45 Willie Pep's first bout with Jimmy McAllister. Pep was 8 days rest while McAllister was on 77, but it was still an off night for Pep who went back to normal for his 2nd and 3rd fights with Jimmy.
When you fight that often, you are bound to have the occasional off night. Moore occasionally had performances like that as well.

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 12:09
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote: 15 Jun 2026, 17:40 James Toney against Dave Tiberi had a mediocre performance.
He clearly lost that fight.

Re: ATGs in their prime in fights that they looked very ordinary

Posted: 17 Jun 2026, 14:32
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote: Today, 12:09
gilgamesh wrote: 15 Jun 2026, 17:40 James Toney against Dave Tiberi had a mediocre performance.
He clearly lost that fight.
Yeah that's what most people say. I think Tiberi won too, but it's not as big a robbery as many make it out to be.