Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 14:10
I believe that he did. Ken Norton's style was very difficult for Muhammad Ali to solve. What's your opinions?
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Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 14:26
I agree with the decision in their first and second bouts but disagree with the third fight's decision.
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 14:28
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 14:35
I thought Ali won all three 
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 15:28
Is there not some area of boxing history we haven't covered yet? Are we really doing Ali/Norton... again? Then will it be back to Douglas/Tyson? How about a Leonard/Duran thread for the millionth time?
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 15:42
I had Norton winning the 1st by 2 pts, Ali winning the 2nd by 3 pts, and Norton winning the 3rd by 1 pt
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 18:20
I was thinking the same thing. I think we've talked these particular subjects to death.overhand_right wrote: ↑15 Sep 2026, 15:28 Is there not some area of boxing history we haven't covered yet? Are we really doing Ali/Norton... again? Then will it be back to Douglas/Tyson? How about a Leonard/Duran thread for the millionth time?
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 22:41
Ken Norton clearly beat Muhammad Ali three times.
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 15 Sep 2026, 22:53
2nd fight was Ali's fight. Close, but his win was legit on that one.
So far you're the only person putting Norton at 3-0 over Ali.
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 16 Sep 2026, 07:18
So far elmersalsa the only one in this forum who truly knows the secrets of boxing 
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 16 Sep 2026, 09:53
For the record, I thought Norton clearly win the first fight. No controversy about the decision.
I thought Ali won the second. There was no controversy about the decision.
The third could have gone either way. There were several close rounds. At the time, almost everyone thought it was close and could have gone either way. Gradually over time it became a 'robbery'.
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 17 Sep 2026, 01:56
I am not the only one. Two more followed. It means that a lot of people thought the same. That doesn't detract nor put down Muhammad Ali's legacy or all-time great status. Some fighters can't beat other fighters. And it is a great case here with Ken Norton. He was Ali's kryptonite.
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 03 Oct 2026, 11:31
Well Norton won the first fight and was robbed in the third fight. The second fight was very close.elmersalsa wrote: ↑15 Sep 2026, 14:10 I believe that he did. Ken Norton's style was very difficult for Muhammad Ali to solve. What's your opinions?
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 03 Oct 2026, 14:26
Ken Norton to Muhammad Ali was like Juan Manuel Marquez to Manny Pacquiao784118 wrote: ↑Yesterday, 11:31Well Norton won the first fight and was robbed in the third fight. The second fight was very close.elmersalsa wrote: ↑15 Sep 2026, 14:10 I believe that he did. Ken Norton's style was very difficult for Muhammad Ali to solve. What's your opinions?
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 03 Oct 2026, 14:56
It's definitely a similar kinda thing. Same as Antonio Tarver to Roy Jones.elmersalsa wrote: ↑Yesterday, 14:26Ken Norton to Muhammad Ali was like Juan Manuel Marquez to Manny Pacquiao784118 wrote: ↑Yesterday, 11:31Well Norton won the first fight and was robbed in the third fight. The second fight was very close.elmersalsa wrote: ↑15 Sep 2026, 14:10 I believe that he did. Ken Norton's style was very difficult for Muhammad Ali to solve. What's your opinions?
Some people just have a nemesis in Boxing. A guy that is obsessed with taking your spot, and has prepared his style seemingly almost solely to deal with you.
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 03 Oct 2026, 18:14
In the case of Norton vs Ali, it was that Kenny was able to take away Ali’s jab. He let Muhammad jab, he catch it with his right glove held high, parrying it and fire back with his own jab, sometimes doubling up and opening up combinations.
He would also move to his right cutting off Ali who almost constantly jabbed and moved to his left.
Not a super complicated game plan but it worked.
He would also move to his right cutting off Ali who almost constantly jabbed and moved to his left.
Not a super complicated game plan but it worked.
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 03 Oct 2026, 21:25
Basically study what the guy likes to do and don't let him do that.Expug wrote: ↑Yesterday, 18:14 In the case of Norton vs Ali, it was that Kenny was able to take away Ali’s jab. He let Muhammad jab, he catch it with his right glove held high, parrying it and fire back with his own jab, sometimes doubling up and opening up combinations.
He would also move to his right cutting off Ali who almost constantly jabbed and moved to his left.
Not a super complicated game plan but it worked.
Re: Did Ken Norton Beat Muhammad Ali 3 Times?
Posted: 04 Oct 2026, 03:31
They would always have close fights. I thought Norton won the first with no argument. The other two I think you can make a case for either way.