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Calzaghe v Veit: Frank not happy with judge.

Posted: 03 May 2005, 11:08
by MightyWarrior
Frank has complained to the WBO about German judge Axel Zielke's appointment for Joe's rematch with Mario Veit this Sat.
This is the same guy who scored Johnny Nelson v Alexander Petkovic a draw.

On the face of it, it seems unlikely, but I wouldn't be too surprised if this went the distance.

But if I was betting, I'd probably go Joe by late stopage....

Posted: 03 May 2005, 11:14
by Freiheit
I wonder if he made a complaint when Zielke was a judge on a Sports Network show in december?

Posted: 03 May 2005, 11:20
by knockout
Freiheit wrote:I wonder if he made a complaint when Zielke was a judge on a Sports Network show in december?
:TU: :TU: :TU: :TU: beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 03 May 2005, 11:26
by MightyWarrior
What, Frank a hypocrite?? Never!!!

Posted: 03 May 2005, 11:35
by jamesmcdonnell
Something that struck me as a little odd, was that it said something about how according to German rules, a german official had to present at a world title fight. I don't know of this being the case elsehwhere in the world, and if it isn't then how can it be the case, JUST in Germany, surely individual commissions shouldn't be allowed to have such rules. Although without a single international governing body, I suppose anything is possible.

Posted: 03 May 2005, 11:40
by Freiheit
Ie DM-Tiozzo didnt have any german officials same with Sidorenko vs Zarate on the same card. Markussen vs Ottke didnt have any german either. I think that is might be in the WBO rules that the "venuecountry" must have an official. There have been a british official in all of Calzaghe's fights.

Posted: 03 May 2005, 12:53
by Bard of Boxrec
outburst

Posted: 03 May 2005, 12:54
by kevo
And what, Mr Blowe, has prompted this little outburst?

Posted: 03 May 2005, 14:30
by jamesmcdonnell
Freiheit wrote:Ie DM-Tiozzo didnt have any german officials same with Sidorenko vs Zarate on the same card. Markussen vs Ottke didnt have any german either. I think that is might be in the WBO rules that the "venuecountry" must have an official. There have been a british official in all of Calzaghe's fights.
Right ok, the piece was misleading in that case, wasn't making any accusations, merely wondering why it was being stated thus.

Posted: 03 May 2005, 14:32
by nickd
What a crock of shit, how often are Allegedlys fighters up against foreigners over here with British judges scoring??

Posted: 03 May 2005, 14:39
by jamesmcdonnell
To be honest, I doubt that it's even being considered a factor. More likely it's designed to give the impression that there's any doubt about the contest. I suppose if by some strange act of god Calzaghe were to lose, they could claim it was a factor, but as I think Calzaghe is going to shite all over him, I doubt it will be a factor.

Posted: 03 May 2005, 20:04
by states
jamesmcdonnell wrote:To be honest, I doubt that it's even being considered a factor. More likely it's designed to give the impression that there's any doubt about the contest. I suppose if by some strange act of god Calzaghe were to lose, they could claim it was a factor, but as I think Calzaghe is going to shite all over him, I doubt it will be a factor.
That's the way I see it as well. I do get the impression, recently, that Mr Warren is fed up with Calzaghe, to be honest. But surely he's not that concerned about this fight. Excuses in early, and all that. This fight is, as far as I can see, about the right to hawk a 'World Title' belt about for a few years, making a few quid along the line.

Frank can't be that worried, surely? Sure, Joe seems to have slipped recently, but can you honestly see Veit winning? The chances of another first round blow-out are pretty slim, but Veit is there to be hit. All night long. If Calzaghe isn't bouncing shots off Mario's chin for 7/8 rounds (if that), I'll be amazed. I actually think we'll see a good showing from the 'Italian Dragon' (Is that not the worst nickname ever, btw?) because Calzaghe does seem pissed off and ready to fight like we know he can.

Meaningless hype from FW, if you ask me. It reeks of trying to get the fight noticed as far as I can see. Which, in fairness, is the promoters job. But I can't see how it matters who the judges are for this one. Still, no publicity is bad publicity, and all that.....

Posted: 04 May 2005, 01:41
by pasty_spud
veit wins by Split decision......

Posted: 04 May 2005, 03:35
by nickd
Just like Calzaghe was supposedly ready to fight against Salem blah blah blah. Its all a bit old I hope he loses.

Posted: 04 May 2005, 05:46
by knockout
much as i think Frank and Joe C are utter wankers... Joe will win this one pretty easy

Posted: 04 May 2005, 06:49
by dragons
Anyone know the odds for Calzaghe 1st Round KO ?

Posted: 04 May 2005, 07:33
by Graham Brett
dragons wrote:Anyone know the odds for Calzaghe 1st Round KO ?
Who cares.

I wont even bother to watch the fight.

I might look up the result on teletext.

Posted: 04 May 2005, 11:00
by Kilburn
I've just got my Sky back up and running (for how long is another matter) in time for Tito next week but I'm pretty pissed off that after all the mismatches we've seen Calzaghe take part in we miss this.

I'm not picking Veit to win but I'm positive it's a tough fight for Joe away from home.

Posted: 04 May 2005, 11:57
by nickd
It was 25-1 on a Calzaghe KO in 1, cant see it happening myself.

Posted: 04 May 2005, 12:06
by kevo
Riddick Blowe wrote:outburst
:lol: quality

Posted: 05 May 2005, 06:11
by MightyWarrior
Looks like Frankie got his way - well well well.....


Chicago referee Gino Rodriguez will be the third man in the ring for the big WBO super middleweight title fight on Saturday between champion Joe Calzaghe and interim champ Mario Veit in Braunschweig, Germany. Judges for the fight will be Thomas Miller and Melvina Lathan from the USA and Joachim Jacobsen of Germany.

Posted: 05 May 2005, 06:14
by nickd
COME ON VEIT!!

This is officially the first time I have ever cheered for a German. (excluding porn) ;)

Posted: 05 May 2005, 06:18
by jamesmcdonnell
Like I said before, Sports Network have made the WBO a bloody fortune over the years. This argument was poo-pooed before. However right now Sauerland have only 1 WBO champ, Zsolt Erdei, whilst SN have Nelson, Calzaghe and Harrison. Admittedly Nelson doesn't make them much, but Calzaghe and Harrison certainly aren't worth throwing away.

I will be very surprised if Calzaghe gets stiffed on a decision, not least because I don't think it goes that far.

Posted: 05 May 2005, 06:52
by Bard of Boxrec
yeah, it's a battle of which fighter the officials are schmoozed into favouring.

Interesting! Do you think they weighed up the pros and cons of robbing one or the other?

Posted: 05 May 2005, 06:58
by nickd
Imagine how many hookers those officials will go through in the next 36 hours. Bastards.